NC Cruising News – Pamlico, Crotoan and Roanoke Sounds
Posted by Claiborne | Posted on 09-21-2009
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Please Note That Postings Below From Fellow Cruisers Are Listed in Chronological Order, Based on Publication Date
We heartily recommend a visit to Manteo, NC, with is really GOOD restaurants, plentiful shopping and access to multiple historical attractions. And, you simply can’t do better than to coil your lines at SALTY SOUTHEAST CRUISERS’ NET SPONSOR, Manteo Waterfront Marina. Tell Captain Carl we sent you!!!
Cruising News:
What a swell place to spend a couple of days. All of the docks are in good repair, and most of the city has recovered from Hurricane Irene. There is an excitement in the air as if something was about to happen. Children actually play in the streets here. The waterfront invites residents and tourists alike to walk along its length. BBQ pits and picnic tables! Park benches! I keep looking over my shoulder to see if Norman Rockwell is drawing all this, or is it really happening. Someone should make a list of the best Cruisers Restaurants and put the Full Moon Restaurant and Brewery at the top of that list. Their shrimp and crab enchilada is the best in the whole world. Come tie up here. Eat here. You’ll like it here.
Jim and Talley Powell
Click Here To Open A Chart View Window, Zoomed To the Location of Manteo Waterfront Marina
Captains Jim and Talley Powell included some really neat photos with their recent posting concerning a visit to Swanquarter, NC, off southwestern Pamlico Sound (see http://cruisersnet.net/?p=87218). This port of call remains one of the most isolated on the Tar Heel coastline, with only one small marina (mostly geared towards commercial fishing craft) and very little in the way of shoreside dining or amenities. Nevertheless, a visit to Swanquarter is like stepping back in time, and many cruisers will find it to be a memorable experience!
Click the link below to check out these superb images!
Hatteras Inlet lies well off the Waterway, on the eastern edge of Pamlico Sound. This narrow, unstable seaward passage cuts the southern reaches of Hatteras Island and the northern strands of Ocracoke Island. For years and years, we’ve been advising that no-one attempt to make use of this inlet channel without very specific local knowledge!
NC – CAPE HATTERAS – HATTERAS INLET – SHOALING
Shoaling has been reported in the vicinity of Hatteras Inlet Channel Buoy 12B (LLNR 28732.2) and Hatteras Inlet Channel Buoy 12C (LLNR 28732.3). Shoaling may be restricting the channel width. Strong winds and falling tides may make safe navigation critical. Chart: 11555.
Click Here To Open A Chart View Window, Zoomed To A “Navigation Alert” Position at Hatteras Inlet
Bath Harbor Marina is located on the eastern shores of Bath Creek, north of flashing daybeacon #4.
Cruising News:
Bath Harbor Marina, just at the bridge crossing Bath Creek, feels like coming home again. Paul Minor and his lovely wife do everything to make you feel “right at home.” Paul met us and helped tie us up in the pass through slip at the end of the pier. Everything here is just what you expect and hope for. There is a large cabaña with a couple of BBQs and lots of shade. It is the coolest place with its gentle southern breezes and pleasant conversation. Water and electric included in the transient fee. Clean bathrooms and showers. Well worth the trip up the Pamlico.
Jim and Talley Powell
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The Powells are docked at Clark’s Marina at the head of one the village canals. There are also the “town docks” which are composed of a pier and launch ramp maintained by the NC Wildlife Resources Commission. See the first link below for more information about Swanquarter.
Cruising News:
Everything deserves a second look. So, we did. We walked into the village and found the Village Consignment Shop, operated by Ms. Emily Cahoon Thomas. We had a delightful conversation and learned new information about Swanquarter, and the church moved by the hand of God. Emily even offered to give us a ride to the Food Lion up on the highway after she closed up shop for the night. After a couple of blocks around town (around the entire town), we thought we would try the Clark’s Marina Office again. This time we found Chuck in the office, and were informed there would be no charge for us to use one of the boat slips for the night. We will be gone in the morning, but we will take a little of Swanquarter Village with us.
Jim and Talley Powell
Click Here To Read More About Swanquarter, NC
Click Here To View the Cruisers’ Net’s North Carolina Marina Directory Listing For Clark’s Marina
Click Here To Open A Chart View Window, Zoomed To the Location of Swanquarter, NC
Despite a January Local Notice to Mariners reporting shoaling in Big Foot Slough (see link below), Capt. DeHart brings good news about an area that has been a perennial problem.
Cruising News:
There was a report in January of shoaling to 5 feet in this channel. I went through there April 17th and saw 8.5 ft. hugging the green side and 9.4 ft. in the middle. Shallowest areas are around 10A. Didn’t find any of this a problem.
Sykes DeHart, SV Aquarius
Click Here To Read a Recent Local Notice to Mariners Report of Shoaling in Big Foot Slough
The Ocracoke National Park Service Docks lie on the northern shores of Ocracoke’s Silver Lake Harbor, just east of its entrance.
Cruising News:
The National Park Service Docks are a nice and inexpensive stay in the jewel of the Outer Banks. The Pamlico is seldom an easy crossing, but Ocracoke is worth the effort. Lots of history, shops, restaurants, and golf cart rentals. Everything you need is right here.
Jim and Talley Powell
Below, Captains Peg and Jim Healy give a wonderfully detailed account of their cruise from Albemarle Sound to Manteo, NC, a totally charming port of call, and then onto one of very favorite stops anywhere, Ocracoke, NC. This later 1/2 of their voyage was by way of Roanoke Sound – Old House Channel – Pamlico Sound – Big Foot Slough Channel. The portion of this passage between Manteo and the western tip of Old House Channel is, we believe, one of the most navigationally challenging routes on the North Carolina coastline.
While there is SUPERB detail provided by Jim and Peg’s account below, DO NOTE THAT THIS LOG IS THE RESULT OF A 2010 VOYAGE, as our two intrepid cruisers note in their introductory remarks. Some things have certainly changed since then, particularly the noted markers on the Old House Channel, where aids to navigation for moved, deleted and added to with dizzying speed.
Still, there is MUCH here to interest year round NC cruisers, and/or Snow Birds who wisely decide to take some extra time to explore the Tar Heel coastline.
Finally, note Peg and Jim’s good words concerning Manteo Waterfront Marina, A SALTY SOUTHEAST CRUISERS’ NET SPONSOR!!!
Here’s a report I posted on our trip to Manteo and Ocracoke in 2010. Definitely, worthwhile. My report is based on travel North-to-South, so you’ll have to read backwards if you’re traveling South-to-North. Manteo in particular is a neat stop. Great historical museum (plantation) there, and the Homeport of Elizabeth II. If she’s in port, she’ll be open for tours. If not, you may see her two masts on Albemarle Sound. There will be tall ships on the Chesapeake in June this year.
Sanctuary and crew made our first transit between Manteo and Ocracoke across Pamlico Sound yesterday, Monday, 10/25/2010. This route is 20 miles shorter than the ICW route from Coinjock to Oriental, but it is more exposed to open water. The portion of the Pamlico Sound crossing that is in truly “open water” is about 35 StM, so pay particular attention to the marine forecast when you do go. That said, Manteo and Ocracoke are neat little towns, and we learned things here that we never knew. This is a really excellent “side-trip,” and also a refreshing alternative to the same-o Alligator River, Alligator River Swing Bridge, and Alligator-Pungo Canal!!!!!!!
We got to Manteo by crossing the Albemarle Sound from Elizabeth City to Croatan Sound. No problems; unremarkable navigation except for the trillions of crab pots in the Albemarle. From the Albemarle, we took the Croatan Sound Channel to the north end of Roanoke Island, and then the marked traverse across the north of Roanoke Island through Roanoke Sound to the Roanoke Channel. We stayed at Manteo at the Waterfront Marina, an excellent facility and staff.
We departed from Waterfront Marina in Manteo, turned south into the Roanoke Channel through Roanoke Sound, joined the Old House Channel into Pamlico Sound, southwest across the sound to the Big Foot Slough Channel into Ocracoke Island’s Silver Lake, and to the National Park Service docks. This is a transit of 67.1 StM which we did in 8.26 hours (so an average speed of 8.12 Stm/hr).
Here’s a synopsis of the navigation between Manteo and Ocracoke. The Roanoke Channel, from it’s beginnings north of Manteo, carries as little as 7ft to it’s intersection with the Manteo Village entrance channel. South of the Manteo entrance channel, the Roanoke Channel carries ***at least*** 9 ft for it’s entire length; in most areas, 11ft to 14ft. There are no draft-related problem areas (at this time). In fact, the Elizabeth II, which draws 8 ft, regularly uses this channel. So, no draft problems, but the channel is quite narrow, probably 100 ft. And, it is not a “No Wake” area. Thus, our plan was to “take our half out of the middle,” which was OK at 07h00 on a Monday morning.
There were, however, two areas that caused some confusion for me. A couple of miles south of Manteo is the US64/US264, 65 ft fixed bridge. Southbound, as you emerge from under that bridge, there is a square “No Wake” sign on a post just on the east side of the channel. With the sun low on the morning horizon, I nearly mistook that sign, by shape, for a green marker. It’s not.
The second area of confusion was another 2 – 3 miles south of the bridge, where there is a side-channel that runs off to the west, into the village of Wanchese (pronounced: WAN-cheese). In that area, the Roanoke Channel takes a small dog-leg left, and then another, back to the right. It took me a minute looking through the binoculars to actually realize there was a side-channel intersection there, and it was confusing; and narrow. Carefully pick out the markers for the Roanoke Channel.
At it’s south end, the Roanoke Channel turns sharply west. In another mile, it intersects with the Old House Channel where the Oregon Inlet Channel comes in from the ocean. There are several new markers there that are not mentioned in the cruising guides and are only reflected on electronic charts that have recent LNMs incorporated. On the Roanoke channel, the new markers include 37A, 37, 36A, 36, 34A and 34. At the entrance of the Old House Channel (which is just a continuation of the route from the Roanoke Channel into Pamlico Sound) there is a new green-over-red marker, “OH.” The rest of the Old House route into Pamlico Sound is well marked and unremarkable.
The route across Pamlico Sound is, likewise, unremarkable. Follow it to the Big Foot Slough Channel from the sound into Ocracoke. Note here that the North Carolina State Ferry System uses this channel. Draft for pleasure craft is not a problem, but if you encounter a ferry in that channel, watch the prop wash! The prop wash is very, very strong, and definitely enough to set you out of the channel. There is a red-over-green junction marker just beyond R3 and G4. Watch for the correctly charted shoal there, and turn 120 degrees or so to port, into the entrance channel into Ocracoke harbor, called “Sliver Lake” on the charts. In the harbor, inexpensive dockage with water and electric is available at the National Park Service docks adjacent to the ferry docks. In this harbor, there is also plenty of room to anchor; 20 boats or more. The harbor is very well protected from the strong periodic winds that frequent this island 20 miles into the Atlantic.
Jim
Peg and Jim Healy aboard Sanctuary
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We heartily recommend a visit to Manteo, NC, with is really GOOD restaurants, plentiful shopping and access to multiple historical attractions. And, you simply can’t do better than to coil your lines at SALTY SOUTHEAST CRUISERS’ NET SPONSOR, Manteo Waterfront Marina. Tell Captain Carl we sent you!!!
Manteo has a lot going for it and you will enjoy the history that abounds there. We went to Manteo last year. To read our story, go to http://www.betsyrick.com and click on the link to our blog. Then just scroll back a bit to last year or use the archive.
Rick Johnson
Harbor Host for Sneads Ferry, NC
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The Ocracoke National Park Service Docks are on the northern shores of Silver Lake Harbor, just east of its entrance.
We spent 3 nights at Ocracoke Island a couple of years ago. It is a lovely spot with lots to do. The US Park Service docks are not fancy, but are more than adequate. Several good restaurants are within walking distance and the beach is within biking range. Be sure to check out the picturesque lighthouse.
Mark and Bev MacMahon
M/V Calypso – AT34
currently motoring to Charleston, SC
M/V Oasis traveled to Okracoke from Oriental, NC last spring. Check out our Journal tab at http://www.oasiscrew.shutterfly.com. Scroll to North Carolina and Virginia entry dated May 23rd.
Pasted below is a brief part of that entry.
On May 10th we departed the ICW to take a side trip across Pamlico Sound to the Outter Banks of North Carolina and visit the island of Ocracoke, say that 10 times as fast as you can. The harbor here is called Silver Lake where the ferrys bring all the tourist and provisions for the island. They also have a small airport. Ocrackoe is where the infamous pirate Blackbeard was captured and taken to sea to be hanged at the direction of the then Governor of Virginia around 1774. We were here for three days and enjoyed bicycling around the island and enjoying the nice weather and the harbor waterfront at sunset.
Chuck and Frances
M/V Oasis
Southern Shores, NC is a northern Outer Banks community, north of Kitty Hawk. To reach Southern Shores by water, you must cruise through shallow, southern Currituck Sound, north from the Wright Brothers Memorial Bridge. This route is used primarily by shallow draft vessels. Daymarker # 7 is part of the entrance channel into the Southern Shores Harbor.
NC – PAMLICO SOUND – SOUTHERN SHORES – SHOALING
Shoaling to a depth of 1-2 feet MLW has been reported in the vicinity of Southern Shores Daybeacon 7 (LLNR 31300). Chart: 12205.
Click Here To Open A Chart View Window, Zoomed To A “Navigation Alert” Position at Southern Shores
Recent Local Notices to Mariners and our own on-site observations have reported severe shoaling in Oregon Inlet passage. This passage is NOT recommended for ANY mariner without very specific, up to date, local knowledge, and, even then, only for those piloting shallow draft vessels of less than 4 ft. We have had a Navigational Alert set for this inlet since June of 2011.
NC – CURRITUCK BEACH LIGHT TO WIMBLE SHOALS – OREGON INLET – SHOALING
Shoaling to a depth of 7.0ft MLW has been reported 60 yards east of the Bonner Bridge in the center of the channel. Shoaling to a depth of 8.5ft MLW is reported 100 yards east of the center span of the bridge. The lowest depth observed is between Oregon Inlet Lighted Buoy 12 (LLNR 28025) and the center span of the Bonner Bridge at 5.0ft MLW. Chart 12204.
Mar 27, 2012
Shoaling to a depth of 3.5 feet MLW has been reported between Oregon Inlet Channel buoy 21 (LLNR 28070 and Oregon Inlet Channel Buoy 21A (LLNR 28073) and extending approximately 20 yards into the channel. Chart: 12204.
Recent Local Notices to Mariners and our own on-site observations have reported severe shoaling in Oregon Inlet passage. This passage is NOT recommended for ANY mariner without very specific, up to date, local knowledge, and, even then, only for those piloting shallow draft vessels of less than 4 ft. We have had a Navigational Alert set for this inlet since June of 2011.
NC – OREGON INLET – HERBERT C. BONNER BRIDGE – VERTICAL CLEARANCE REDUCTION
The vertical clearance on the Herbert C. Bonner Bridge will be reduced to 61 feet MHW from 05 March until 15 June, 2012 due to a platform above the navigational span for painting and repairs. Chart: 12204.
The dredging or lack thereof of Oregon Inlet has been a hot button topic along the North Carolina coastline since the 1970′s. And, discussions centering around this issue along the Outer Banks can get VERY heated.
Oregon Inlet and its shallow water problems were the subject of a 1980′s novel, titled “The Hatterask Incident.” GOOD reading to this day!
Oregon Inlet lies just south of Nags Head, NC, and cuts west into Old House Channel and the Roanoke Sound channel. The commercial fishing fleet on Roanoke Island at Wanchese, NC, depends upon this seaward path for access to their offshore fisheries. On the other hand, there are those (and we are NOT among this group), who would argue that the massive dredging of this inlet, as argued for by Dr. Meredith below, would be an environmental disaster.
This is a controversy that NEVER seems to die!
Hatteras and Oregon Inlets Shoaling:
Bring in a Giant Dutch Hopper Dredge and do it Right!
The time is now to contract a vessel like the Dutch built Trailing Suction Hopper Dredge Congo River. The entire Oregon Inlet could be cleaned out in a matter of weeks through the use of a 40,000 cubic meter capacity vessel as pictured in Congo River Trailing Suction Hopper Dredge website.
A commercial trailing suction hopper dredge could discharge its dredge spoils close to the beach. In the case of Oregon Inlet dredging deposit the spoils, as close as possible, say at North Nags Head. And then let Mother Nature do the rest. The prevailing tides would carry the new sediment southward and inshore. A supplement to the South Nags Head beach restoration project. An added bonus would be a dramatic increase in zooplankton and fish populations on the newly constructed outer bar. Making South Nags Head a top surf fishing destination on the Outer Banks. Ditto for outer bar vis a vis world class surfing.
The US Army Corps of Engineers and their little side discharge Dredge Merritt was but a joke. Another waste of your hard earned federal tax dollars. Just another federal jobs program. Ditto for the hopper dredge Currituck with its tiny 300 cubic meter payload. You see how long that lasted, don’t you? In the long run, the Currituck proved to be five times as expensive as a real hopper dredge like the Congo River.
The Congo River with its 40,000 cubic meter payload, could completely clean out Oregon Inlet in a few weeks! And would not have to return for years, perhaps decades. Much less expensive than those never ending, make work federal dredge projects. And less expensive than building a long, terribly expensive, quickly foiled, granite rip rap North Jetty.
Wake up North Carolina! The Federal Government is the problem, not the solution. If necessary, finance a Congo River dredging project yourselves. Contract a large commercial trailing suction hopper dredge and the shoaling of Oregon Inlet problem could be resolved in a few weeks. The Congo River Hopper Dredge would be so effective that no granite rip rap north jetty would be needed. Saving hundreds of millions of dollars. And Congo River type massive dredging project would not have to be repeated for years, perhaps decades.
Citizens of the mid Atlantic, petition Congressman Walter Jones and your other elected representatives to, in turn, petition the central government to waive their restriction that requires only US built Hopper Dredges to do projects like this. The corrupt US Corps of Engineers has repeatedly tried with their tiny, breakdown prone dredges to open these two vital inlets. And look at all the money that has been wasted!
If the Bush-Clinton cabal can scam America in order to allow their coconspirators in Indonesia, China and Taiwan, to import hundreds of billions of dollars worth of junk products into America….if Congress allowed this fraud upon America, surely we can spend a few million dollars to employ our Dutch allies, to come in and really clean out Oregon Inlet and Hatteras Inlet.
Wake up Citizens of the Mid Atlantic! Ask the federal Government for a waiver and bring in a massive hopper dredge like the Dutch Based Congo River. To really open up these inlets!
George Meredith MD
Virginia Beach
Dear Captain Claiborne S Young,
It was only because I have been fighting with the Virginia Beach dredging bureaucrats that I even came to know about the requirement that only US Built hopper dredges can be used for US dredging! What a farce!
Think about that. We have foreign made super tankers, colliers and container carriers plying US waters every day. To the tune of hundreds of billions of dollars each year. Now, why in the hell would we keep want to big Dutch hopper dredges out…especially when they can do a much better job for much, much less.
Go forth and shout this from the hilltops. You have a bully pulpit!
Search George Meredith MD dredging pipeline marsh restoration etc for more details
Thanks,
GM
Click Here To Open A Chart View Window, Zoomed To the Location of Oregon Inlet
Recent Local Notices to Mariners and our own on-site observations, the have reported severe shoaling in Oregon Inlet passage. This passage is NOT recommended for ANY mariner without very specific, up to date, local knowledge, and, even then, only for those piloting shallow draft vessels of less than 4 ft. We have had a Navigational Alert set for this inlet since June of 2011.
NC – CURRITUCK BEACH LIGHT TO WIMBLE SHOALS – OREGON INLET – BRIDGE REPAIRS
Mariners are advised that steel repairs, cleaning and painting operations will be performed from March 5, 2012 through June 15, 2012 at the Herbert C. Bonner Bridge across Oregon Inlet, at mile 0.9, in Dare County, NC. To facilitate the work at Span 145, the navigation channel, a decking platform will reduce the available vertical clearance to approximately 61 feet, above MHW. Mariners should use extreme caution when transiting the area. Chart :12204
Big Foot Slough, the primary conduit from Pamlico Sound to Ocracoke, one of the North Carolina coastline’s most popular ports of call, was last dredged in June of 2011. Shoaling is slowly beginning to reappear.
NC – OCRACOKE INLET – BIG FOOT SLOUGH – SHOALING
Shoaling to a depth of 5.0 ft MLW has been reported in the vicinity of Big Foot Slough Channel Daybeacon 10B (LLNR 29070.1). Chart: 11555.
Shoaling on the east side of Big Foot Slough is pretty much a constant situation, particularly in the area of red markers 8, 10, and 12. It isn’t unusual to see shore birds wading only a few feet outside of the channel, and when I was last there the shoal area encroached 15-20 feet into the channel and was quite visible at low tide. I presume the sustained winds from Irene only made the situation worse.
As a “local” who goes out to Ocracoke several times a year, and has a sailboat with 5’6″ of draft, I hold to the center of the channel, or favor the green markers when entering or leaving Ocracoke by Big Foot Slough.
Rick Brass
If you have made this passage recently and especially since Irene, please let Paula and Dave hear from you and share with all of us. See link below for a thorough discussion of this alternate route.
Any Oct. 2011 updates to this alternative? As a sailboat with 64′ mast, we would like to consider this route, but wonder if Hurricane Irene stirred up the sand in this channel. Is the channel east of Roanoke Island in the Roanoke sound still passable for a 5’7″ draft? Thanks for any info.
Paula and Dave email: Innispf@gmail.com
Silver Lake Harbor Anchorage lies in the venerable shadow of the 75 ft. Ocracoke Light and is accessible from the NW via Nine Foot Shoal Channel or by Big Foot Slough Channel, which has been recently dredged, and from the south via the Ocracoke Inlet.
We made our annual trip to Ocracoke this past weekend and anchored in Silver Lake. Silver Lake has great holding, 10-foot depths and can hold a good 20 boats. The water is a good clarity enough so I could clean the hull and running gear, but still gets some sediment from the ferry traffic.
Last year, you could get free wifi in Silver Lake, but this year no longer. There is a “Silver Lake Harbor” site broadcasting, but it is password-protected, with no opportunity to access – free, paid, or otherwise. This was disappointing, but that’s life. 3G still works. Someone is missing the boat (pun intended) by not having a free log-on through an ad-sponsored portal.
Captain Ben Matthews
I came out of Silver Lake on 7/16/11 through Nine Foot Shoal Channel, concerned that it may have shoaled further over the winter at Red 8. I had good depths and showed 7ft for about a hundred feet right at Red 8, just like the chart shows, so it did not appear to have shoaled any further. Just call it Seven Foot Shoal Channel from now on.
Skipper Sam
Click Here To View A Photo of Silver Lake Taken by Capt. Ben