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    • Charlotte Harbor Boat Storage

      I have not reviewed the storage facility recommended by WinterHawk below, but I will be on these waters soon, and will soon rectify that oversight! I have seen this facility from the nearby road, however, and so I know it’s located on Charlotte Harbor’s western shoreline, north of Cape Haze.

      We would suggest the All American Covered Boat Storage off Charlotte Harbor – you go through a fresh water lock before the yard which is great for removing salt from your engine and other systems. They handle sailboats and power. They allow you to work on your own boat which is rare for boatyards in Fl.
      WinterHawk

      We have kept our boat at All American and have done many repairs and bottom painting while at their facility. They are very cooperative.
      Rich Oakley
      `Panache’
      Punta Gorda, FL

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    • Marco River Marina (south of Naples, on Marco to Naples Waterway)

      Marco River Marina resides on the inner shores of Factory Bay, which indents the eastern shores of Marco Island. There is also good shopping and dining within walking distance of this facility!

      Spent 2 nights at Marco Island Marina due to weather.
      Very friendly staff all around. New floating docks were installed only a while ago. Get 10c off / gallon of fuel when you stay at the marina. Plenty of Restaurants within walking distance.
      Sabine and Reinhold Probst
      Cabana
      Mainship Trawler 40

      Click Here For The Cruisers’ Net’s Western Florida Marina Directory Listing For Marco River Marina

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    • New Marina in Everglades City (Southwestern Florida, Ten Thousand Islands Region)

      I love the backwater feeling of visting Everglades City by water. There is a true feeling of OLD Florida here. Just don’t try this on a still summer night!
      Heretofore, waterborne visitors to Everglades City had only choice for overnight dockage, the old Rod and Gun Club. Well, that’s still a possibility, but, according to Captain Jan’s note below, there is now a new “luxury marina” in town known as Everglades Isle.
      We would like to know more bout Everglade Isle. Anyone else berthed here. What were your experiences. Please share by clicking the “Comment on This Posting/Marina/Anchorage/Bridge” link below!

      Onward to Everglades City, there’s a new luxury marina just before the bridge: Everglades Isle. Actually an upscale RV park, it has 30 or so floating docks, only 6 with 30 amp power, the remainder 15 amp, pool, showers, laundry, bar. On the downside, the docks are narrow; I’ll measure them when we arrive; the strong tidal current makes for challenging docking and the airboats run non-stop until 5pm.
      Rod & Gun is okay, except a little rocky with the current and boat traffic, tie-up wall is in disrepair and had
      cold water only showers when we visited last New Years Eve.
      Cheers
      Jan

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    • Marco Island to Marathon and Key West, Then North to Miami

      Below is a very informative and interesting string of messages copied from the T&T (Trawlers and Trawlering) list about cruising from Marco Island in southwestern Florida, to either Marathon or Key West, then north to Miami or possibly even the Okeechobee Waterway. There’s tons of useful cruising tips here, over a wide ranging swath of waters.

      I am interested in information related to leaving Marco Island and rounding the bottom of Florida, possible crossing over to the Hawk Channel at Seven Mile bridge. Anyone with experience, ideas, help? Thanks.
      Craig McAllaster
      “Cavalier” Island Packet SP Cruiser

      We did just that about 2 years ago. It seems like yesterday but unfortunately that is a long time ago in cruising days. Our boat draws 4.5 feet and I would love to leave again tomorrow and do it in the same boat.
      We made our way from Marco to Little Shark River, anchored there and left for 7 mile bridge. The water is skinny but you will get used to 9-10 feet and you will make it. Picking good weather is important. Many crab traps but just work your way through them. Go slow in places where dodging them is difficult and faster in open areas. Uneventful in crossing under 7 mile bridge. We had no tidal problems but I have heard of significant tidal flow so you probably should check the tidal flow times before leaving.
      We did Hawk Channel to and from Key West. Plenty of water, of course, but we experienced extraordinarily rough water. When the wind direction is from off shore the long fetch can make things uncomfortable. Hawk Channel provides easy access to the Key West area but in my opinion, it is not worth it if the water is rough. Hawk channel is not close enough to land to say you saw any local color of the keys.
      Now, if I had it to do again, I would take the bay side to key west. I have never been that way so do not have any direct experience but have heard many good things. Also have traveled by car to many places on the bay side and easily see why others rave about the “local color”.
      Wayne Prichard

      Craig,
      You didn’t say what your draft is and that can be a factor in this part of the world. Also, you didn’t say how long you plan to be gone or when you want to leave.
      Morning Star only draws 3-1/2 ft and we regularly leave Marco via Coon Key Pass. That makes a stop at Everglades City a short hop. Or you can continue on to Little Shark River for an overnight. The run from Little Shark to Marathon is not long and we have never found it to be particularly shallow. There are a few “banks” to avoid but they are well marked and if you are paying attention there won’t be a problem.
      From Marathon, you can pass under the Seven-Mile Bridge at Moser Channel or you can go east up the ICW on the Florida Bay side or you can head west to Key West via Big Spanish Channel.
      If you are contemplating Florida Bay, know that a strong northerly will blow a lot of water out of the Bay.
      Finally, if your goal is to do the “South Florida Loop”, a trip we highly recommend, I would do the Okeechobee leg first and head south from Stuart. That way when you leave Miami and head down the Keys the prevailing wind will be at your back.
      Regards,
      Randy Pickelmann
      MORNING STAR

      We traveled directly from Naples to Key West on the Gulf. It was 122nm dock to dock and an easy run, although we did travel at a faster speed than usual. We left Naples at 7AM, navigated the crab pots and then never saw another pot nor another boat until we neared Key West! Took the Hawk Channel from Key West to Marathon.
      ONE OLIVER II

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    • Free City Dock in Venice, Florida No Longer Available For Overnight Stays (near St. M. 58)

      For many years a couple of vessels have been able to tie up to the free city dock in Venice, Florida’s Hiegel Park, just next door to the Venice Yacht Club. Now, as you will read below, it looks like overnight dockage will no longer be allowed at this pier. Of course, vessels drawing 5 feet or less can always anchor off the park, and dinghy ashore. Check out these water’s entry in the Net’s “Western Florida Anchorage Directory” at:

      /73-venice-higel-park-anchorage-2

      Still, it’s a shame that the powers that be in Venice have chosen to discontinue this wonderful service to the cruising community. And, Venice needs all image improvement it can get, after being the former home of the “Venice Water Nazi.” Fortunately, this guy is now long retired, and only a very bad memory for cruisers!
      PLEASE be SURE to read Captain Bob Kunath’s note near the end of the message string below. It contains a letter from the Venice mayor!
      Please do note that some of the postings below are copied from the T&T (Trawlers and Trawlering) Mail List, so I have only listed first names. As always, we heartily recommend the T&T list as a Cruisers’ Net adjunct, for those who pilot one of these trusty vessels!

      It would appear that free dockage in Venice, Florida is being done away with. That sucks. It made a great overnight stop.
      http://tinyurl.com/yga5v2k
      Brent

      That’s a shame, I stayed there in 2007 and again Monday night this week. It is not a fancy place but good to tie up to for a night and the price is right. Both times we have stayed there we have made the short walk to the
      Crows Nest for a meal, not an inexpensive outing. I guess in the future I’ll be anchoring off the ICW with dinner onboard. Before we left there yesterday morning a tree removal crew came in they told me they were to take out the pine trees along the dock the were also cutting the mangroves way back.
      Steve

      Below is a copy of a letter sent by a fellow cruiser to the mayor of Venice:

      Mr. Mayor:
      We cruise on our 36′ boat down through Venice every fall and back up every spring, always stopping in Venice at the free dock.
      While docked for a night or two, we always spend money in restaurants and a grocery store (cab-ride away). We’ve also spent money at a pharmacy and other stores.
      Now, with your city’s decision to end the free dock privilage, we no longer have a reason to stop in Venice rather than somewhere else, and our money will be spent elsewhere. Too bad. You had a “hook” that grabbed us and many other boaters, but you’ve let us get away.
      Wade

      It should also be noted that the city intends to build a paid mooring facility, which now becomes easier.
      Ted Stehle
      Good Times
      Regional Editor – Waterway Guide

      To the Venice City Council:
      I had the great pleasure to recently use the Venice Free Dock. It is a widely known facility and famous among many of the Great Loop Cruisers (members of the America’s Great Loop Cruising Association) and other groups that cruise these fine waters of the USA. I had looked forward to this stop and even brought in another cruiser that would have otherwise gone on down to Charlotte Harbor to stay at Burnt Store.
      This dock is nothing like a Marina with power, water and other services, but is more like an anchorage that many a cruiser loves. There are many cruisers that use marinas and seldom anchor out they will continue to use the marinas in the area. Cruisers use guides such as “Skipper Bob” where the Venice facility is listed as a place to go.
      This dock provides an access to Venice that might otherwise be missed. It provides many with the opportunity for some of us to walk the streets of Venice and enjoy the many places the city has to offer. It provides a great alternative to anchoring our, particularly in bad weather which was the case on the day we stopped there.
      It would be a loss to the City of Venice should this facility use change. Many a cruiser that stays there would not stop in Venice but find other places to stay. These types of facilities are common in other areas of the country and there are still a few in Florida. I’d sincerely ask that you consider keeping the dock available to those of us who would spend a night in your city.
      It is already posted as a place you can only stay one night and I’m sure that that keeps cruisers moving on and also into nearby Marinas after they find out how nice a city Venice is.
      Sincerely hoping you can keep something free.
      We love Venice
      Jim and Vaughn Quince
      Spring Lake , Michigan

      This is just another reason to bypass Venice and go outside. We have had numerous bad experiences going through Venice. We have been up and down the west coast about 5 times and would reccomend going outside.

      To the citizens and business owners of Venice,
      I have cruised America’s Great loop twice, and has found that Florida is the most unfriendly state in all my 12000 miles of cruising!
      Venice, in particular, ranks at the very top of the “unfriendly to boaters” list.
      First, Venice had the water Nazi, a overzealous water cop whose retirement was welcomed by all cruisers.
      Then Venice, is taking away their free dock.
      With a down economy, I fail to understand why the business owners of Venice would turn away a community of boaters, who on the average , have a very disposable income, are cruising on a very expensive boat, and spending thousands and thousands of dollars to do it.
      It’s a loss to the Venice economy. Cruisers will go elsewhere rather than visit an over priced community that does not want their money!
      You won’t be seeing my money in Venice!!
      Send those boaters here to Key Largo. We will welcome them.
      See you in Paradise! (but not venice)
      Captain Sterling

      Venice has always been tough to anchor in with my 40′ sloop. There generally is never any room in the anchorage.
      My two options have been the Crows Nest, or the City Dock. The Crows Nest has become very expensive, and the [city-Hegel Park] dock is closed so’¦
      I shall plan accordingly to stop someplace else. We did enjoy the restaurants and shopping in Venice. Too bad for the cruisers and town alike.
      Larry Annen

      Someone just wrote that Florida was an unfriendly state to boaters. I would venture to say that the people that you are referring to, the mayor, city council and the majority of residents of Venice are not native Floridians. They are the people that moved here from, in all probability, somewhere up north and they want to stop people from traveling through Venice and stopping at the park dock. They probably consider you people on boats as lower in status than they are, therefore they don’t want you there. My wife and I have been stopping at that dock since 1978 right up to last year. The only problem we ever had there was with the Venice Y.C., don’t even think they will sell you ice or gas, they seem like a bunch of snobs to me.
      It just seems to me that we will be skipping the Venice dock from now on, as well as the restaurants and stores.
      Too bad, that was a nice lay over from Tampa Bay to Lemon Bay.
      Bubba Gleaton

      More on Venice,
      We stopped in Venice at the Crows Nest with Sans Souci in 2004 when we did the Great Loop. We found that Venice is a terrific city, right on the Gulf, small in size yet large enough to offer plenty of reasons to stop and stay awhile. In fact, we liked it enough that we returned in 2007 and bought a house on the island; our back yard is the canal. Our evaluation of Venice has not changed since we’ve lived here, the city welcomes and thrives on winter visitors, including boaters.
      There has been bad press about Venice over the years, primarily relating to the enforcement of registration laws by a local officer who has now been retired for two years. The latest flap relates to the free dock, which the
      city is considering closing to overnight guests. That move appears to be in concert with a plan to establish a low-cost mooring field in Roberts Bay.
      It is probably worth noting that there are very few if any free overnight docks in Southern Florida. Whether you stay at one of the marinas or the free dock or proposed mooring field, you will likely find Venice to be one of your favorite stops.
      Many cruisers have been writing to the council and mayor. I invited him to respond and explain the circumstance and direction the city is headed. The following is his response:

      “Thanks for the invitation. I have replied briefly to some, but not all writers. Here, in brief, is our rationale.
      Thank you for your emails about the ‘free dock.’ We appreciate your visits to Venice and hope you will continue to visit. The dock will still be free, but not for over-nights.
      There are many reasons for Council’s decision, but, in essence, we are seeking a “dockmaster” for a new mooring field, to be modestly priced which is required by the state and which will provided pump out and other services to visiting boats. The free docking, without the showers, toilets, etc. was preventing our being able to obtain bids to be become “dockmaster.”
      We will always welcome you and hope you will return.
      Best wishes,
      Ed Martin, Mayor”

      Bob Kunath
      Cruising Editor, Waterway Guide

      All I can say it is pitiful.
      Charlie Schiear

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      1. Taha'A -  July 20, 2015 - 4:54 am

        Ah yes Venice. An awful place to visit by sea. Maybe three places to sail into and tie up overnight, expensive if even one can find a place. Roberts Bay moorings/anchorage lousy….no room due to abandoned vessels. Higel
        boat ramp….just that , Skip Venice go outside in the Gulf keep on going Punts Gorda next stop headed south. PG has lots of great options.

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    • Terrific Yanmar Diesel Mechanic in Bradenton, Florida

      I’ve always said a good, reliable and fair marine mechanic is worth his or her weight in gold!

      A terrific Yanmar authorized seasoned and experienced Yanmar mechanic out of Bradenton, FL who works from Sarasota to Bonita Springs, FL is is Kevin McGary….tel: 941-713-3936. He can do it all regarding Yanmars and more.
      Regards,
      Tom Jones
      m/v Marbles

      We contacted Mr McGary for help with a starter and he was booked up but sent us to the shop he works with when something needs to be rebuilt. AWESOME, what a gentleman, and Bill at B and E Auto Electric is lightning fast ‘” thanks so much for pointing us at Kevin McGary!
      Heather and Derek
      S/V Parallax

      Kevin come to my boat in Whitfield Estates and found that my bilge leak was diesel fuel, not antifreeze that I had expected. He found that the leaking fuel filter was for Gasoline and not Diesel. The bowl at the bottom was a screw on type and had expanded enough over its 5 year life to slip lose. He replaced it with a raycore diesel filter with a bowl you can see without having to crawl down into the bilge of the Albin 28TE. He also diagnosed the problems with my live well and let me fix it myself. He did remove the old frozen pump and cleaned out the threads in the thru hull with a 3/4’³ tap. Thanks Kevin!!!
      Dudley Fort

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      1. Dr Ty Gardner -  October 5, 2017 - 10:50 am

        Kevin has worked on the two Yanmar diesels on my Voyage 440 catamaran numerous times over the last ten years … he is an awesome mechanic!! I can not say enough terrific things about him. He is polite, reasonable and exceptionally competent. He has travelled to the boat when it was out of its home port to fix serious problems. This guy is the best mechanic I have ever known.

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      2. Michael leporati -  April 11, 2016 - 7:15 pm

        I can’t express how happy I am with Kevin,thank you Dudley Fort.He is exceptional,it’s nice to find courteous honest people in which you can trust now adays

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        • michael Leporati -  May 4, 2017 - 8:49 pm

          I posted this upon my first meeting with Kevin however he never followed up with excuses every week he has been working on my engine for 5 months with promises every week.if you are looking for a polite mechanic that does not keep you informed.and are will to pay for your slip without the enjoyment of being able to sail he’s your man

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    • Longboat Key Moorings (Statute Mile 77.5)

      I have always considered Longboat Key Moorings a top flight facility. How about some of you who pass through here put in a good word about them becoming a Salty Southeast Cruisers’ Net sponsor!!!

      Claiborne:
      A couple of weekends ago, the indefatigable cruisers of the Venice Sailing Squadron, sailed up to the Longboat Key Club & Resort ~ The Moorings. The Marina is lovely & large with a well-marked EZ In/EZ Out channel off the ICW. The restaurant at the Marina, Portofino, has a great ambience & very good food that won’t break your bank. There are 6 other restaurants in the complex, plus tennis, golf, beach, heated pools, spa, & a shuttle to take you (& retrieve you) from St. Armand’s Circle where there is endless shopping …….
      The staff was very friendly & accommodating inviting us to hold our cocktail ‘hour’ on one of the covered porches outside the restaurant rather than in the rain! All told, our VSS cruisers had a great time.
      Carol & Don Duncan

      Click Here To View the Western Florida Cruisers’ Net Marina Directory Listing For Longboat Key Moorings

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    • Marina Operations (Marina Jacks) – Sarasota, Near Statute Mile 73)

      Wow, what a great report on a key facility, just south of Tampa Bay, By the way, while the official name of this city leased marina is “Marina Operations,” virtually everyone refers to it as Marina Jacks. That is actually the on-site’s restaurant moniker, however.

      Hi Claiborne,
      Marina Jacks was one of the nicest marinas that we have visited.
      They have approximately 30 transient docks primarily located on the outside of D dock. This is a long floating dock with 40ft finger slips. It is well protected from the westerly winds, but with 10 to 15 knots of blow, there can be some current running the length of D dock, making docking a little interesting! Paulette did docking practice and did very well!
      The docks are in impeccable condition with all of the normal electrical, water and cable hookups. The dockhands were exceptional helpful. There is a security gate with an access code to the transient area. We discovered the laundry area with a direct veiw over the water…a delightful way to handle one of boaters’ chores. Each morning, the Sarasota newspaper mysteriously appeared on our aft deck…a nice touch.
      Access to downtown Sarasota could not have been better. It’s a five minute walk, of which three minutes are waiting for the traffic lights to turn in your favor. Once downtown, foodies like us can walk five minutes further to a very large and well-stocked Whole Foods plus a number of very interesting restaurants.
      For those of us with dogs, the marina is situated right next to the nicest park we have ever visited. What can be nicer than walking your dog through pathways along the waterfront!
      Marina Jacks now has a courtesy van. This service was just added during our five day stay, so “the rules” of where and when it goes are still being developed. However, I was able to go to both WestMarine and Publix all in one trip.
      Dockage was $2.25 a foot plus electric which seems on par for a top quality marina on Florida’s West Coast.
      I hope that this is helpful
      John

      Click Here To View the Western Florida Cruisers’ Net Marina Directory Listing For Marina Operations/Marina Jacks

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    • Good Fuel Stop in Fort Myers Beach

      We cover Ballards Oil Company, the subject of the message below, on our “Western Florida Fuel Prices” page, and, yes indeed, they usually do have very good buys on diesel fuel. Click the link below Captains Jim and Lisa’s message below to learn the current price.

      Hi from Kismet:
      Florida: Good Fuel Deal-Fort Myers Beach
      For those that will be cruising through the Ft. Myers Beach area and need fuel (Florida) we wanted to pass along what we thought was a good deal.
      We stopped in Ft. Myers Beach today for three days and topped off our fuel tanks at Ballard’s (239-463-7677) and the current price for diesel, including taxes, is $2.69… keep in mind their hours are 8 to 4 p.m. Monday thru Friday and they like cash or checks.
      Safe Cruising.
      Jim & Lisa Favors – Kismet
      Fathom 40 Fast Trawler

      Click Here For The Cruisers’ Net’s Western Florida Fuel Prices Listing For Ballard Oil Company

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    • Glover Bight Anchorage (Caloosahatchee River, near Cape Coral)

      Glover Bight makes for a GREAT overnight anchorage, and, as it is located near the mouth of the Caloosahatchee River, it’s very convenient to drop the hook here, and then begin your explorations of Pine Island Sound the next morning. First timers should pay close attention to the marked entrance channel, being sure not to miss any of the marks.

      Hi from Kismet:
      Florida: Anchorage-Cape Coral
      In Cape Coral, Florida, a couple of miles up the Caloosahatchee River off the ICW, is Tarpon Point Marina. Just outside the marina basin is a well protected anchorage located in Glover Bight, it is highlighted in Skipper Bob’s book. We spent the night with only one other boat. It was quiet and surrounded by mangroves and birds.
      Safe Cruising.
      Jim & Lisa Favors – Kismet
      Fathom 40 Fast Trawler

      Click Here For The Cruisers’ Net’s Western Florida Anchorage Directory Listing For Glover Bight Anchorage

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    • Tarpon Point Marina (Caloosahatchee River, near Cape Coral)

      Tarpon Point Marina is a good facility, though it has certainly changed in character over the last several years. Where once this facility was surrounded with a field, it is now overlooked by multiple, tall condo towers. That really does not detract from the marina, it’s just different.

      Hi from Kismet:
      Florida: Marina-Cape Coral
      In Cape Coral, Florida a couple of miles up the Caloosahatchee River off the ICW is Tarpon Point Marina. We found this new, top rate marina convenient with shopping and a few restaurants on sight (Marker 92 was our choice) and for first time visitors who are BoatUS members the price is $1.50 per foot for the first night vs. their normal $2.00. The rate includes electric, water and a free pump out and a coupon for a free bottle of wine if you dine at Marker 92. Now that’s a good deal.
      Safe Cruising.
      Jim & Lisa Favors – Kismet
      Fathom 40 Fast Trawler

      Click Here For The Cruisers’ Net’s Western Florida Marina Directory Listing For Tarpon Point Marina

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    • Cruising Upstream on Little Shark River To Big Shark River and the Everglades

      The discussion below is copied from the “GL” (Great Loop) mail list. These messages describe what we think is a wonderful cruise up the Little Shark River, to the (Big) Shark River, and then well into the Everglades. Though no-one mentions it below, there are one or two shoal to avoid when cruising what I call the “feeder streams” between the Little Shark and the (Big) Shark River. However, these shallows are correctly charted, at least in our experience, and a GPS chart plotter has always gotten us past these potential hazards. Otherwise, this is a great cruise, unless of course you are doing this on a windless summer night. In this instance, the winged pests may just carry your boat out in the marsh and eat it there!

      Have many people made this treck up the Little Shark River into the Everglades in their Trawler?
      How far up is it and how easy to navigate? Any other comments appreciated! I note that it shows up on ActiveCaptain as a anchorage.
      I did see a nice Tarpon when at anchorage at the Little Shark mouth earlier this week! (lots of low tide fish activity there)
      Thanks,
      Jim

      When we visited the Little Shark River in early March 2005, we went about 7 miles up the river to the Shark River chickee. The scenery didn’t change much in that eight miles – not surprisingly, since it’s all mangrove swamp, for the most part with an occasional elevated platform for those more adventuresome cruisers in canoes and kayaks! The electronic chart was quite accurate – I suppose there’s not much shoaling to be concerned about. There are only a couple of daymarks in the first 2-3 miles, and then nothing. We could have gone farther without a problem – the water was deep enough – but we wanted to get back to the anchorage area near the mouth by mid-afternoon and were traveling at 1/2 trawler speed the entire 14 miles.
      It’s worth the trip to experience the Everglades mangrove swamps. That area was different from the area we observed during a pontoon boat trip
      into the Everglades from Flamingo.
      Bob McLeran and Judy Young

      Most boats anchor near the mouth of the river but we prefer a beautiful secluded anchorage farther up river. Continue 1.5 miles to daymark G69 and turn right (SE) immediately before the daymark. BTW, daymark 69 marks the end of the Wilderness Waterway canoe route across the Everglades from Flamingo. The bad news – after spending two nights at anchor and a few tide changes, our anchor was securely snagged and we had to cut it loose.
      Alan Lloyd
      Author, Great Loop Navigation Notes

      Hi Jim,
      In the summer of 2008 we anchored out in Whitewater Bay, which is about 5 miles into the Everglades. It was fabulous. We really felt like we
      were in the wilderness, with just the thousands of roosting birds for company (and the bugs… but then it was summer). After dark you could see the glow of the lights of Miami on the horizon, against the jet black sky full of stars. We left at dawn and had a beautiful, calm ride back down the river. There was plenty of water and the river followed the chart perfectly, so navigation was easy.
      Don’t miss it.
      Jo
      Jonah’s Whale
      EndeavourCat 48

      I have taken my Island Packet sailboat (draws 4.5′) all the way up the Shark River to its source in Tarpon Bay. The scenery does not change much along the way.
      Art Richard

      Click Here For The Cruisers’ Net’s Western Florida Anchorage Directory Listing For The Little Shark River Outer Anchorage

      Click Here For The Cruisers’ Net’s Western Florida Anchorage Directory Listing For The Little Shark River Southern Fork Anchorage

      Click Here For The Cruisers’ Net’s Western Florida Anchorage Directory Listing For The Little Shark River Upper Anchorage

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    • Flamingo, Florida (south and a bit east of Cape Sable)

      Flamingo is the southwesternmost port of call on mainland Florida coastline. Where there once was a rough and ready frontier town here, now there is a Park Service concessionaire marina. Trouble is that in 2005 the Hurricanes washed tons and tons of mud and sand into the harbor and entrance channel. Eventually, the Park Service dredged, but ONLY to about 3 feet (or less) at low tide in places. I would be VERY hesitant to take any vessel into Flamingo at any tide drawing more than 3 1/2 feet.

      Ahoy All:
      Travelling in our RV this winter; a couple of nights ago we spent a night in Flamingo Florida to check it out. Very remote, no wi-fi, tv or phone signal (Sprint). We walked over to the marina , located off of Florida Bay. Marked channel coming in which is doable for trawlers if you’re very careful and use the tides. Tides on this side of the Bay, as opposed to the Keys side.
      Flamingo is part of the Everglades National Park, but the marina is run by a concessionaire. Floating docks. Only one boat was in the marina. Rates are $2/ft. including elec./water.
      Wade Ehlen
      Currently Boatles, but not for much longer

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    • Victory Against Sarasota’s 500 Foot Anchoring Regulation

      We are going to start this posting with GOOD NEWS! As you will see below, the Sarasota city attorney has recommended against prosecuting Captain William (Pete) Shaw. He was ticketed for anchoring within 500 feet of private property. To my own unlawlerly mind, and many others, this local Sarasota ordinance is in clear violation of the new Florida anchoring law. In spite of the Sarasota City Attorney’s careful language (see below), I think he’s saying the city would have lost if this case had gone to court.
      This is a small, but important victory for the cruising community in regards to Florida anchoring rights. While some may have preferred that the case went forward, very likely resulting in a favorable ruling for Captain Pete, the abandonment of pursuing this matter by the City Attorney, has to send some sort of message to other municipalities in Florida.
      I AM STILL WORKING ON A MAJOR ARTICLE/EDITORIAL ABOUT WHAT’S GOING ON WITH THE NEW FLORIDA ANCHORING LAW VERSUS LOCAL REGULATONS. I hope to present this new story next week. In the meantime, let’s all rejoice that it’s now just a bit safer to drop the hook in Sarasota waters. THREE CHEERS FOR CAPTAIN PETE!!!!
      As was said above, the first sequence of notes you will read below define the abandonment of the case against Captain Peter. Farther dowin this ever lengthening string, you will discover older messages that define what happened in the first place.

      Dear Claiborne,
      Recent emails from the Sarasota City Attorney are below. The short story is that he is not going to prosecute the recently cited boater and may suspend enforcement for 30-45 days while he does more research. So I will again be pursuing the option of the city council rescinding their rule (as opposed to having it done in court) and will be meeting with the city attorney and council members later next week. My proposal will be to replace the 500 foot rule with a collection of general nuisance ordinances to quell the concerns of waterfront property owners.
      Helping to get to this point was an admiralty attorney, Joanne M. Foster from Guy Yudin & Foster in Stuart, who threatened a federal civil rights suit. They are the same firm that sued Stuart in the Vincent Sibilla anchoring case last year. Also, the phone call the city attorney received from the National Marine Manufacturer’s Association attorney, most likely prompted from the postings on Cruiser’s Net, was influential in swaying the city attorney’s position.
      Jeff Bole

      Thanks for your email and the constructive input/suggestions. I didn’t know if you had seen email correspondence below or not. If we suspend enforcement, which I’m prepared to recommend at this point, then I think everything is on the table. So even though I’m not recommending repeal at present, I consider the repeal or modification to be possible alternatives. I would like to meet with you and hear about your suggestions. It will have to be after Monday though. I will follow up with you by early next week at the latest with some possible times.
      Robert M. Fournier
      City Attorney
      City of Sarasota

      Commissioners, I am forwarding an email I sent to Chief Abbott today advising that I have decided to decline to prosecute Mr. Shaw for anchoring his vessel within 500 ft. of property used and zoned for residential purposes. Mr. Shaw was anchored for 3 days at 343 ft. from the shore line. I am planning to bring this up on Monday under remarks of Charter officials. You may recall that I discussed this ordinance and the so called 500 ft. rule in a memorandum that was transmitted to you via email dated January 13, 2010. I am still not prepared to recommend repeal of Sec. 10-52, but due to the high probability that the continued validity of the ordinance will be litigated at some point, I want to be certain that the City is in the best possible position before that happens.
      Robert M. Fournier
      City Attorney
      City of Sarasota

      I would like to thank everybody who helped get me through this situation. The support and kind comments, advise and hard work done by many people has this possible. Thanks especially to Jeff Bole, Ken Delacy and my attorney Joanne Foster. Also the NMMA,the Cruisers Net, and the Sarasota Herald Tribune. After paying the bills and working for a short spell to replenish the cruising fund, I will be headed toward the Bahamas after all! If we stay organized, the cities and counties won’t stand a chance if they choose to ignore the new anchoring rules the state has put into effect. (be aware that the city of Miami owns some submerged lands and they call the shots there) I hope to see some of you in paradise, if you see my catamaran, Mahina, come on over and we’ll chat, maybe have a beer or six.
      Pete
      William Shaw

      TODAYS JOKE IN THE “BACK CHANNEL”
      Question- Why do Lions do what they do?
      Answer- Because they can!

      Question-Why is the Citys’ Attorney trying to do what he’s trying to do?
      Answer?- Because he can’t? Maybe he just thinks he’s a Lion? A real Lion would know the difference between service anchors and moorings!
      Walter

      Older message below were authored and posted here on the Cruisers’ Net PRIOR TO the abandonment of the charges against Captain Pete.

      Subject: Sarasota Anchoring Ordinance Versus FL State Law
      Cruising News: For the last six months, I have been working with the city government of Sarasota, FL to try to get their 500 foot rule repealed. This city ordinance prohibits anchoring within 500 feet of a residence for more than twelve hours, which appears to be in violation of Florida Statute 327.60’s prohibition of local anchoring regulations as referenced in the BoatU.S. information sheet titled `Anchoring Information for Florida Cruisers’.
      I have opinions from an FWC attorney who indicates that Special Act 86-458 (the act that gave Sarasota the loophole to initially enact their law) is now obsolete since the special act simply defines a term that is no longer in the state statute that it references (327.60) and from Donald Day, the attorney that won the Marco Island v. Dumas case, who thinks that Sarasota\’s anchoring rule would not stand up in court.
      However, the Sarasota city attorney is holding firm in his stance that the Special Act is still valid and that Sarasota\’s ordinance does not defy state law. Without convincing him to change his opinion or a strong legal argument to counter his, I can not acquire enough votes from the city council to overturn their anchoring restriction.
      A January 12th memorandum from the city attorney to the city commissioners addressed the 500 foot rule. He thinks that, regardless of the actual language used, the intended effect of the special act still stands and that the 2009 general rule does not supersede the 1986 special rule since the general rule does not explicitly state that it does. My counter that, `As a participant in the drafting process of HB 1423, I know that the intended effect of the revision to 327.60 was to standardize anchoring regulations statewide by prohibiting local ordinances,’ does not convince the city commission to vote against the opinion of their attorney.
      As cruising sailors are currently being cited for violation of Sarasota’s anchoring ordinance, I would appreciate any help that anyone may offer in
      countering the city attorney’s argument so that we can get this law off of the books as soon as possible.
      Thank you,
      Jeff Bole

      Subject: Fla anchoring citation
      Cruising News: On jan. 10 I was issued a “complaint” form the Sarasota marine police for violation of city ordinance 10-52, for anchoring within 500 feet of a waterfront property. I called the telephone # printed on the back of the complaint and was promptly connected to the “Yuppy Puppy” pet salon. After calling around a bit, trying to find the penalty for this , I was connected to the clerk of court, who had no information as to the penalty involved. I intend to challenge the ordinance in court, as it should have been eliminated by the new anchoring law passed by Fla. and in effect since Oct 1, 2009. Iwas staying in the Plymouth Harbor anchorage near lido key and was 352 ft. away from the nearest home. I could use any legal advise or other assistance anyone could give me to overturn this ordinance. My court date is feb 1, which puts a cruise to the Bahamas I was planning on hold until this is cleared up. Anyone who wants to contact me can e mail me at peteshaw998@yahoo.com thanks.
      William Shaw

      I believe that in the [SSECN] archives there is history of a similar case in Stuart a year or so ago, the defendants pro bono lawyer won an out of court settlement based on the facts that the ordinance enforcement violated the defendants civil rights, I believe the City had to pay up. Worth researching.
      GOOD LUCK
      Dernnis McMurtry

      Have either of you contacted the State Attorney’s Office yet? This would be the first place I would go, and request an opinion from him.
      Lee

      I was thinking about this today as I cruised south towards ground zero ‘“ Ft. Lauderdale ‘“ and thought ‘“ we’ve had love-ins, sleep-ins, laugh-ins and sit-ins. Maybe it’s about time we all got together in one location, like Ft. Lauderdale, and had an anchor-in ‘“ and fought for our rights as a group, together by demanding the FL police issue each and every one of us a ticket.
      The publicity alone, which would be national, would cause the municipalities to rethink what they are doing and force the state to act to enforce its own laws.
      Wally Moran

      Sarasota is an extremely desirable place. Look at marina jacks, it gets crazy with 100’s of boats’¦ but i would think they have every right to be there.
      Name not provided

      Assuming one day soon Sarasota’s 500′ rule is found to be in violation with the new State anchoring laws and done away with how may this effect the proposed mooring field? This may seem like a big assumption, but one FWC attorney and the prevailing attorney in the Marco Isl. case have both stated Sarasota’s 500′ rule is currently unenforceable. Well one could guess that if a mooring field is installed in the protected waters of the current harbor those not wishing to patronize it will seek protected waters elsewhere. That could very likely lead to many boats moving back to the Otter Key / Plymouth Harbor area which is what caused Sarasota to seek the 500′ rule back in the 1980’s. I would suggest the City abandon the proposed MF if they do not want this to happen once their 500’ rule is dissolved.
      Ken

      That makes a lot of sense, which is probably why it won’t happen. In case anyone in this group hasn’t heard yet, I’m the guy who got the ticket and I believe I have a good chance of overturning the ordinance. The reason I anchor on the west side of the bay is the calmer water and the fact that the city have placed so many parking restrictions at Island park, I actually have more available parking over on lido key! Why don’t they just make Island Park the easiest place for boaters to anchor and land their dinghies (no fees) and then everybody will anchor there.
      Pete

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    • Use Your Anchor Light When Dropping the Hook In Sarasota Waters

      Yet another demonstaration of how “friendly” Sarasota is to visiting crusiers (grin!)!

      For those List members not in the harbor you may not know that 2 nights ago the SPD initiated “Operation Anchor Light.” Reports are police boats moved through the harbor shortly after sunset visiting those aboard that did not have an all around white light, or an anchor light, illuminated. The citation is in the $75 area, and some were told that the owners of the unoccupied boats without the light on would be receiving the ticket by mail. I assume Marine Police Officer Ken Goebel, cc’ed here, participated and is invited to offer any corrections or additional information to our community.
      Anchor lights are not required in a designated anchorage, but as far as I know our harbor has never received this official title regardless of it’s status as an anchorage for decades. Maybe even a century.
      Ken

      This item perpetuates a popular myth about anchorages. It is simply not correct that `Anchor lights are not required in a designated anchorage’. The ONLY except for the required anchor lights specified in the Nav Rules is for `special anchorages’ that are designated by US law. There are currently only seven such anchorages in Florida waters.
      The seven special anchorages are at specific locations in the St. Johns River, Indian River (2 areas), Stuart, Marco Island, Manatee River, and Apollo Beach.
      In every other location, including mooring fields, anchor lights are required by federal law.
      Gene Fuller

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    • Mandalay Channel Anchorage (Clearwater Beach, near St. M. 136.5)

      To reach the Mandalay anchorage from the Western Florida ICW, you must traverse a marked, but sometimes tricky (for strangers anyway) channel that passes Moonshine Island.

      Were were in the Mandalay channel today on 01/23/10. Tide was over 1 1/2 foot. As we came abeam of `12’³ we found perhaps 5 feet. Anyone know if were should have stayed closer to `12’³? We may have been a 100 feet or so southwest of it.
      Thanks,
      Scott and Jolene
      Clearwater Beach, FL

      The shallowest water in the Mandalay Channel is close to marker 12. According to some locals we talked to, the best depth is found closer to the developed shore, inside the no-wake markers. In other words, stay farther from `12’³, not closer.
      Gene Fuller

      And, here’s an earlier Net posting, commenting on this same anchorage:

      You did not ask, but I will comment on the anchorages in the Mandalay Channel just north of the Clearwater Causeway Bridge. This is a really nice anchorage location. The entrance channel was well marked, easy to follow, and mostly quite deep. We saw one spot that was just under 7 feet on the way in (Tide was over 1 foot.) The one interesting difference from your guidebook and from the charts is that we did not find any shallow water near marker 14. We followed the official channel on the way in, but came back out well north of marker 14, with plenty of depth. I explored around marker 14 with a sounder and did not find much evidence of the purported central obstruction.
      In any case this location was very nice. Almost unlimited room, reasonably well protected from directions other than southeast, quiet, and scenic.
      I hope this information is of some interest and use to you.
      Best regards,
      Gene and Sue Fuller
      Punta Gorda, Florida

      Click Here To View the Western Florida Cruisers’ Net Marina Anchorage Listing For The Mandalay Channel Anchroage

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    • Punta Gorda Waterfront Anchorage

      The anchorage commented on below by Captain lies on the waters of Peace River, just west of the Highway 41 Bridge, and just off the Punta Gorda waterfront. It is within easy dinghy distance of Fishermens Village Yacht Basin.

      We have been anchored in this area for 3 days, winds mainly from the North 15 ‘“ 30 knots. We originally anchored just inside R4, but later waited for low tide and crept in a little closer. There is a courtesy dock on the west side of Fisherman’s Village’¦also used the floating dinghy dock inside the basin, but the gate closes at 5:30 PM. It’s ok to use this dock if you are going to the village, but you need to see the dockmaster if you want to use the facilities. Very friendly staff. Lots of shops in the village, good restaurants and entertainment in the center of the shops. We missed the Gallery Walks (3rd Thursday of the month) in Punta Gorda because it was too rough to go ashore but we could hear the music. Follow the painted flip flops on the sidewalk in town.
      Capt. RL& Karen

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    • Captain Pete Takes on the City of Sarasota (Anchoring Rights and 500 Foot Rule)

      OK, I’m going to be the first to admit I missed something here, and have come to this story a bit late in the game. HOWEVER, that does not diminish the fact that this is an important story for ANYONE interested in Florida anchoring rights.
      “Captain Pete” has found himself in a position whereby he was ticketed for being in violation of the Sarasota anchoring ordinances, probably the infamous “500 foot rule.” Shades of Dave Dumas and Marco Island, he has decided to use this incident as a way to take on the city of Sarasota’s (in our opinion) illegal anchoring regulations.
      Notice below that Captain Ken DeLacy, a prime mover in the pro-cruiser Sarasota anchoring issue, is requesting financial support for Captain Pete from the Cruising Community. As you will see, the “fund” is not yet finalized, but we will revise this message just as soon as those circumstances change. In the meantime, I strongly suggest everyone read the messages below, AND follow the link to the Tribune newspaper article!

      Here’s an update on my situation in Sarasota. I have hired an attorney, Joanne Foster to represent me in this matter. This is the same firm that challenged the city of Stuart Fl. and were sucessful in defending the man charged with an anchoring violation. She has entered a plea of not guilty on my behalf. We have requested a jury trial and it may end up in federal court. An article appeared today, jan 26 in the local newspaper, the Sarasota Herald Tribune (available online) about my case. also, I have been contacted by the NMMA, a boat industry group offering to help. I am overwhelmed at the positive messages and support I have been given by friends and strangers alike. It looks like my chances are good to win this and perhaps set an example to other cities that the law applies to everyone, and they ignore it at their peril. We will be doing updates here and at sarasota harbor google group as well and I appreciate everyones support. If you can help with my legal expenses that would be appreciated as well. If tou want to contact me at peteshaw998@yahoo.com I would be happy to talk
      Thanks
      Pete

      Today Pete had Joanne Foster, FL Board Cert. in Admiralty and Maritime Law, give our City attorney Fournier a phone call requesting a delay of the Feb 1st court arraignment. Foster is with the same Firm that successfully defeated the City of Stuart a couple of years ago when they also tried to enforce illegal local ordinances.
      Pete’s fight is our fight as well and as there will be costs associated with this battle I would like to request help from the group on this one. Some here have already offered money to fight this, and I wonder if anyone here has advice on setting up a fund.
      Keep in mind if the City insists on fighting the State on this they will be sued and all moneys invested will be returned.
      Thanks, and THANK YOU Pete!
      Ken

      Ken and everybody,
      Here we go! My attorney has sent to the court that enters a plea of NOT GUILTY in place of my appearance in court on Feb 1. The NMMA, a boat mfg. lobby has gotten in touch as well and they want to help, but they can’t help financially. Tomorrow, I send in my retainer to the law office for $500.00 to get the ball rolling. any financial help would be appreciated . There is an article in the Herald Trib today about me and if you look online you can read the comments people send in. feel free to add your own.
      Check it out.
      Thanks Pete

      Below is a link to the article Pete mention.
      http://www.heraldtribune.com/article/20100126/ARTICLE/1261059?p=3&tc=pg
      Ken

      Claiborne,
      I took a look at your article and I offer the below additional info for your reference.
      Where Pete was anchoring is the same spot he has been anchoring for years when he comes S. for the winter. I don’t think he intended on this happening, but he’s not regretting it either. He was not arrested but received a ticket to appear in court, no option to just pay a fine.
      Ok that’s it for the corrections. A fund has not been set up yet, and I don’t have the slightest idea how to even get started. Any advice?
      Ken

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      1. Dennis McMurtry -  February 11, 2010 - 12:04 pm

        Why is the City attorney still not willing to recind their statute that is in violation of the State law? maybe hoping to snare some cash from unsuspecting boaters? typical City hack !!!

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    • Cruising from Marco Island to The Florida Keys

      The northerly part of the cruise outlined by Captain Jim below leads through (or at least parallel) to the Ten Thousand Island region of southwestern Florida. Then, as is ably outlined below, there are several choices as to how to cruise from the Little Shark River – Cape Sable area to the Florida Keys.

      From EC or the Indian Key area, travel south along the inside boundryline of the Everglades National Park boundry (clearly marked on the charts) to avoid crab pots. Water is reliably 5 – 6 ft in this area. Outside the park, there are several large crab fields, but of course, deeper water. Which anxiety do you prefer? You do have choices. Again, best time for this area is generally noon and later, when afternoon high tides are coming on. Go into the Little Shark River for another neat, wild anchorage. Mind the shoal building southwest into the gulf from the north shoreline. No place to walk a dog.
      From the Little Shark, you’ll have several choices. One is the Yacht Channel south and east across Florida Bay. It’s shallow, and there are crab fields to avoid, but even in 20 kt winds, seas will be calm because of the shallow water. This choice takes you toward Channel 5 and Islamorada. Choice two is to head slightly southwest to Seven Mile Bridge and Marathon. That part of Florida Bay carries somewhat more water – 10 – 15 ft – but is still a fairly good ride in 20 kt winds, at least until you go under the bridge into Hawk Channel. Then, it’ll change abruptly, and get potentially uncomfortable. From there it’s only an hour or so to Marathon harbor and cover.
      The third option is to head west towards Key West/Las Tortugas. If you go to the Tortugas, be aware, it’s about a 65 mile open water transit west
      of Key West, and the last third of that is in deeper gulf water (100 ft). That trip is completely exposed from virtually every direction and carries ocean sea states. Don’t go to the Tortugas unless you are well provisioned and could stay a week or more if you had to wait out a weather window. Worst case is a shopping trip from the Tortugas on a ferry to Key West, but that’s certainly not optimum.
      Jim
      Peg and Jim Healy aboard Sanctuary

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    • Marco Island to Naples Waterway

      The “waterway” that runs from Coon Key Pass, behind Marco Island, and eventually north to Gordon Pass and Naples, is NOT a part of the official (maintained by the US Army Corps of Engineers) Western Florida ICW. HOWEVER, for vessels that draw 4 feet or less, this passage is an intriguing alternative to cruising between Marco and Naples.
      There some real navigational quirks, and the depth limitation outlined above is based on one 4 1/2 foot spot, found near Goodland (southern Marco Island). Perhaps the trickiest section is an easy to miss marker, just south of the Goodland Bridge. If you miss that ATON, you’ll be giving Sea Tow some business every time.
      The discussion below is copied from the AGLCA (American’s Great Loop Cruisers’ Association) mail list. As always, I HIGHLY recommend this organization for ANYONE doing or contemplating the Great Loop!

      Is this a viable alternative to going outside with a 4.5 foot draft boat? It looks like it might be a nice place to transit and anchor.
      Do it at high/rising tide?
      Thanks,
      Jim

      Jim:
      We took about 4’4″ through there a few years ago (2006) with no problems. It is shallow and narrow in spots, so your thought of doing it on a rising tide is a good one. It is a rather isolated but pretty route.
      Also, be aware they are dredging in Gordon Pass near Naples, but that shouldn’t be a problem for you.
      Bill

      A nice place to anchor is in the channel west of Little Marco Island beginning at daymark G”33″. We anchored there and found ourselves partially aground next morning. No problem, we just waited two hours for the incoming tide to float our boat. Evidently, we did not allow enough room to swing on the tide change. Why does the boat always swing on the short shore side when there is gobs of room on the other side?
      Alan Lloyd
      Author, Great Loop Navigation Notes
      (http://www.navigationnotes.com/)

      Jim,
      Yes, inside route is OK for your draft boat.
      Sanctuary draws 4’2″. In March, 2009, we left Punta Gorda via Charlotte Harbor to the G-ICW, south and went out into the Gulf at Redfish Pass (Captiva Island), and south on the Gulf to Gordon Pass.
      There is only one high tide on the gulf side of Florida, and the high tides are normally in the afternoon, so we entered Gordon Pass on a rising tide around 14h00. Or, you could come all the way from
      Charlotte Harbor south on Pine Island Sound and past Sanibel Island to Ft Myers Beach. From Ft. Myers Beach south to Gordon Pass, outside. When you come off the Gulf into and through Gordon Pass, after a mile or so, you’ll take a hard stbd southbound on the old ICW. That’s the worst part of the entire trip for shallow water, narrow channel and inconsiderate local go fast fishing boats. But, about 4 or 5 miles south is a terrific anchorage called Rookery Bay. It’s a wild mangrove swamp area, and beautiful. Mind the correctly charted shoal on the north east of the opening. There’s plenty of water to the south. Some fisherman wakes until dark, but fine thereafter. No place to walk a dog.
      From there, we proceeded south to Marco. Mind the charts very carefully at Marco. From Rookery Bay on the old ICW, you’ll need to go nearly all the way out the Marco inlet and make a 340 degree turn
      back to get to the old ICW channel south of Marco to Goodland. You can anchor or marina at Marco. There is plenty of room, and more than one area to anchor.
      When you leave Marco Southbound, there is a hiway bridge immediately south of Marco where the channel marker colors change sides. So… When you go under that bridge, southbound, you MUST take a 90 degree stbd turn and find R”26″, which lies against the shoreline in a line parallel to the bridge. It can be hard to spot, but you must go around that marker, leaving it to your port side. You will see
      smaller boats skip it, and head straight at the bridge. DO NOT FOLLOW THEM. It is too shallow for your boat! From R”26″, make another 90 degree turn, this time to port, and find G”25″. It’s a mile off, but
      find it. The channel from R”26″ to G”25″ is a bit narrow, but carries 6 – 8′ of water, so no problem. There is a collection of remains of pilings to stbd after you make the turn at R”26″; leave them to your
      stbd side and follow a rhumb line from R”26″ to G”25″. This all sounds complicated, but forewarned, it’s not bad. However, it can be confusing and unintuitive if you don’t know the marker colors change
      side there.
      The rest of that old ICW channel is fine, and well marked. Follow it through Goodland and through Coon Key Pass to Gullivan Bay. You can anchor or marina at Goodland. If you marina there, be sure to check on approach water depths. The area is shallow. The north portion of Gullivan Bay is also shallow: 5 ft or so at MLW, but no problem. As you proceed south past coon Key Light, you have entered the 10,000 Islands.
      Jim
      Peg and Jim Healy aboard Sanctuary
      Currently at Charlotte Harbor, Punta Gorda, FL

      The Old ICW from Naples to Rookery Channel Anchorage
      So far so good…..Shallow yes, Twins arrived in Naples about noon yesterday and took the old ICW to the channel between R46 and R48. We anchored up the channel to the east as far as you should go to the 8ft charted hole where the bay opens. The tide was still rising.
      I’ve estimated that the tides here run one to two hours after the tide tables for Marco and Naples which are about an hour different. At low tide this morning the slack occurred almost 2 hours after the stated Marco low at 7:34 of -1.0. We still had a good 9 feet under the swim platform. You could also tie off to the mangroves here but there is lots of room to swing. A pretty spot.
      Definately do this trip at high tide for Naples or Marco if you carry a trawler draft. The advice from Sanctuary (and others) is great! Thanks.
      I’ll cross my fingers again at high tide when we head for Goodland today.

      In 2006 (so info is that dated, but post Hurricane Charlie) we took a chartered 46′ Grand Banks from Marco to Naples using the inside route, a delightful trip on a rising tide. The junction with Gordon Pass is tricky, as noted by Jim. At that time an alternative anchorage to Rookery Bay, and one of our all time favorites, was inside Hurricane Pass. There is a very nice beach that we swam or took our inflatable kayak to that would be good for a dog if you cleaned up after it. One of those places where we could have spent a week . The Pass itself is not usable to get to the Gulf.
      George

      Click Here To View the Western Florida Cruisers’ Net Anchorage Directory Listing For The Little Marco Island Anchorage

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