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    • Proper Use of VHF Channels 16 and 13 by Roger Long

      Our thanks to Roger Long for this discussion on the use of channel 13 and channel 16.

      This also applies to passing and meeting discussions. Every vessel on waterways such as the ICW should be monitoring 13 as well as 16 for situational awareness about the bridges and what commercial traffic is doing. Few do so however so you will usually need to hail a vessel you are overtaking on 16 if you want to alert them. If your call is just, “Rover, this is Sea Queen passing you to port.” and all you need back it “Roger” or “Go Ahead”, then that is OK. However, if you want to ask which side, do they want a slow pass, etc., you should ask them to switch to another channel first. If someone overtaking you asks questions requiring more than a one word response, you should ask them to switch to another channel.

      Following frequent USCG admonishments a couple days ago, most ICW travelers were switching to 17 or 68 for passing discussions after an initial 16 hail. This is fine but it makes more sense to use the channel identified for the purpose. Contrary to urban legend, 13 is not a channel for commercial craft. It just sounds like it because professionals use it as intended. 13 is the Bridge (helm) to Bridge (helm) channel for exchange of navigational information between vessels in a common situation such as passing or meeting. If you listen to it in busy areas such as the Saint John River, you’ll learn that the professionals NEVER call each other on 16 first. A direct hail on 13 is appropriate and saves 16 clutter. The reason commercial vessels hail recreational vessel on 16 first is because they know most yacht drivers are ignorant and don’t waste time trying to get them the proper way first. In the Saint John River, if you listen, you’ll discover that the pilots almost always hail yachts on 13 first because they want to follow correct procedure. You can then hear the eye roll (another idiot) as they hail on 16 and ask for a switch to 13. I’ve often heard them tell yachts to please stay on 13 all the time they are in the river.

      We have a sign just below our name board that says, “Hail CH 13 to Pass”. It saves a lot of 16 airtime and button pushing. I monitor 16 (as legally required) via dual watch and switch to that for the few boats that ignore the sign. I have had many commercial professionals complement me on the sign and tell me they wish every yacht had one. An aside: Commercial vessels hate being hailed on 16 for passing and meeting calls because they are all using 13 as their primary channel and are required, unlike recreational craft, to have it on a second radio which may be located farther out of reach and which they seldom use. Calling them on 13 tells them that you know your radio procedure. I now use 13 as my primary channel on the waterways because my sign will bring most passing calls in on it. If I need to talk to someone in a hurry, it will probably be a tug and barge coming unexpectedly around a bend. They don’t come around unexpectedly as much any more because I have been listening to 13 and hearing them all along.

      A big reason for using 13 is also that it defaults to low power so that you are not sharing your navigational discussions with boats 20-30 miles in each direction. 16 defaults to high power. Even if you know to hit the H/L button, every time most radios return to 16 from another channel to to scan or operator switch, 16 will be switched to 25 watts. Almost nobody, including myself, can remember to press H/L EVERY time before making a 16 transmission to a nearby boat or marina. Getting the waterway cruising community used to using 13 properly would eliminate a lot of 16 clutter. This would be of major benefit to vessels taking the outside route. They have to listen to the “This is the trawler behind the white sailboat. We hope you are having a very nice day and would like to know which side you would like us to pass on and whether you would like a slow pass.” drivel all the way down. I have had many tell me that the fear during the fall snowbird parade that they are afraid the could not get a distress heard in event of fire or sudden flooding. Just listening to it all day long is also annoying.

      After you have figured out your passing arrangements on 13, if you want to tell the other vessel how nice it is, talk about where they are going, etc., then it is time to switch to another working channel. If your initial call to a nearby vessel is not about passing, meeting, or other exchange of navigation information, then the initial hail should be on 16 followed by switching to a working channel.

      I’ve been massively flamed on the Internet for these thoughts but have yet to have one commercial professional disagree with me.

      Comments from Cruisers (1)

      1. Tom Murphy -  November 9, 2019 - 10:09 pm

        Thank you for your post. I'm always telling people about doing this. I get a lot of guff for being a jerk. Another nice thing about monitoring 13 is that it improves your opinion of the human race.: People on 13 are almost universally polite and helpful.
        I especially remember one time at the Savannah River crossroads. Before I ever got anywhere near the river on the ICW, I knew, from listening to the radio, that there would be three ships passing at about the same time I would arrive and slowed down to avoid arriving early. Another boat near me wondered what I was doing and I explained. I told them it was always a good idea to monitor 13 on the ICW but they didn't think it was worthwhile for a yacht to do.

        Reply to Tom
    • Addendum to LNM: REMINDER – a Radio Flowchart

      Our thanks to Roger Long for this excellent flowchart for your VHF radio. Roger is responding to LNM: REMINDER: Channel 16 is Not for Chit Chat. The radio flowchart should be taped to your VHF.

       


      Comments from Cruisers (2)

      1. Roger Long -  November 18, 2019 - 6:05 am

        Have actually you tried using your horn?

        Usually when I have, I got a finger because people think I'm just saying "Get out of my way" and not which side I intend to pass. Almost nobody on the water knows what the signals mean. I have no idea whether they do or not and thus no idea which way they will turn. In much of the waterway, it is also annoying to people who live on the shore.

        Reply to Roger
      2. Perry -  November 16, 2019 - 8:44 am

        Use your horn for passing another boat.

        Reply to Perry
    • Good Words for Morehead City Yacht Basin, NC AICW Statute Mile 203


      Morehead City Yacht Basin

      Morehead City Yacht Basin, A CRUISERS NET SPONSOR, is located on the southern flank of the marked channel that runs west from Mile 203 of the Waterway, just north of the Morehead-Beaufort high-rise bridge. Our thanks to Bru Brubaker for these king words.

      We continue to stop at Morehead City Yacht Basin because of good protection, proximity of restaurants, GREAT dock hands, clean facility, good bathrooms, easy off and back on ICW, and the nice boaters who use this marina. If fueling and/or pumping out, pay attention to the floater in the basin; the depth is shallow outside it. The Ruddy Duck Restaurant has outstanding crispy duck in a serving large enough for lunch seconds the next day.
      Bru Brubaker

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    • LNM: REMINDER: Channel 16 is Not for Chit Chat

      This is a reminder that is unneeded for most of boaters, but obviously there are still those, both amateur and professional, who do not know or respect the rules of the airwaves.


      MSIB 48-19 VHF Marine Channel 16 Designated for Emergency Calls Only – Sector Charleston, SC
      VHF Channel 16 (156.8MHz) is the international hailing and distress frequency. The Coast Guard continuously monitors CH 16 for any distress calls. Excessive chatter can impede Coast Guard response operations. Prohibited Channel 16 communications include: excessive chatter, obscene language, routine messages and radio tests. Mariners are reminded that prohibited radio chatter increases the risk of genuine distress calls being missed by response personnel. Automated radio checks can be conducted on VHF CH 26 and 27. Marinas can be reached on CH 12, 14, 68, and 69.

      This MSIB can be viewed at https://homeport.uscg.mil/port-directory/charleston. For questions or concerns, please contact the Sector’s 24-hour Command Center at (843) 740-7050.

      Comments from Cruisers (1)

      1. Roger Long on "Gypsy Star" -  November 9, 2019 - 8:07 am

        This also applies to passing and meeting discussions. Every vessel on waterways such as the ICW should be monitoring 13 as well as 16 for situational awareness about the bridges and what commercial traffic is doing. Few do so however so you will usually need to hail a vessel you are overtaking on 16 if you want to alert them. If your call is just, “Rover, this is Sea Queen passing you to port.” and all you need back it “Roger” or “Go Ahead”, then that is OK. However, if you want to ask which side, do they want a slow pass, etc., you should ask them to switch to another channel first. If someone overtaking you asks questions requiring more than a one word response, you should ask them to switch to another channel.

        Following frequent USCG admonishments a couple days ago, most ICW travelers were switching to 17 or 68 for passing discussions after an initial 16 hail. This is fine but it makes more sense to use the channel identified for the purpose. Contrary to urban legend, 13 is not a channel for commercial craft. It just sounds like it because professionals use it as intended. 13 is the Bridge (helm) to Bridge (helm) channel for exchange of navigational information between vessels in a common situation such as passing or meeting. If you listen to it in busy areas such as the Saint John River, you’ll learn that the professionals NEVER call each other on 16 first. A direct hail on 13 is appropriate and saves 16 clutter. The reason commercial vessels hail recreational vessel on 16 first is because they know most yacht drivers are ignorant and don’t waste time trying to get them the proper way first. In the Saint John River, if you listen, you’ll discover that the pilots almost always hail yachts on 13 first because they want to follow correct procedure. You can then hear the eye roll (another idiot) as they hail on 16 and ask for a switch to 13. I’ve often heard them tell yachts to please stay on 13 all the time they are in the river.

        We have a sign just below our name board that says, “Hail CH 13 to Pass”. It saves a lot of 16 airtime and button pushing. I monitor 16 (as legally required) via dual watch and switch to that for the few boats that ignore the sign. I have had many commercial professionals complement me on the sign and tell me they wish every yacht had one. An aside: Commercial vessels hate being hailed on 16 for passing and meeting calls because they are all using 13 as their primary channel and are required, unlike recreational craft, to have it on a second radio which may be located farther out of reach and which they seldom use. Calling them on 13 tells them that you know your radio procedure. I now use 13 as my primary channel on the waterways because my sign will bring most passing calls in on it. If I need to talk to someone in a hurry, it will probably be a tug and barge coming unexpectedly around a bend. They don’t come around unexpectedly as much any more because I have been listening to 13 and hearing them all along.

        A big reason for using 13 is also that it defaults to low power so that you are not sharing your navigational discussions with boats 20-30 miles in each direction. 16 defaults to high power. Even if you know to hit the H/L button, every time most radios return to 16 from another channel to to scan or operator switch, 16 will be switched to 25 watts. Almost nobody, including myself, can remember to press H/L EVERY time before making a 16 transmission to a nearby boat or marina. Getting the waterway cruising community used to using 13 properly would eliminate a lot of 16 clutter. This would be of major benefit to vessels taking the outside route. They have to listen to the “This is the trawler behind the white sailboat. We hope you are having a very nice day and would like to know which side you would like us to pass on and whether you would like a slow pass.” drivel all the way down. I have had many tell me that the fear during the fall snowbird parade that they are afraid the could not get a distress heard in event of fire or sudden flooding. Just listening to it all day long is also annoying.

        After you have figured out your passing arrangements on 13, if you want to tell the other vessel how nice it is, talk about where they are going, etc., then it is time to switch to another working channel. If your initial call to a nearby vessel is not about passing, meeting, or other exchange of navigation information, then the initial hail should be on 16 followed by switching to a working channel.

        I’ve been massively flamed on the Internet for these thoughts but have yet to have one commercial professional disagree with me.

        Reply to Roger
    • Bahamas Chatter: New Customs fees question

      Explorer Charts - the best charts for the Bahamas and Exumas

      Bahamas Chatter is produced by Explorer Chartbooks, A CRUISERS NET PARTNER, which has long been the standard navigational supplement for enjoyable, informative, and safe cruising through the beautiful Bahamian waters and island visits.

      Bahamas Chatter: New Customs fees question
      New Customs fees question

      Posted: 07 Nov 2019 02:09 PM PST

      I see the new fees for a 35 foot boat are $300 for three months and $600 for a year. What are the fees for 4 months?? Is it that you have three months at $300, then after that you have to pay for the entire year at $600 more or is it $300 more making it $600 for the year? If you are checking in and want to stay 4-5 months do you just pay the $600 for the year then?? Please only reply if you are sure of your answer. Thanks.
      PS I like the idea of reciprocating the US entry fee for Bahamian boats coming to the USA.

      Comments from Cruisers (3)

      1. Stephanie DiBelardino -  November 13, 2019 - 8:05 am

        I have confirmation from boaters that have recently arrived in the Bahamas that there are no changes to the cruising fees. No one knows what will happen in 2020. The Bahamian government has a history of announcing changes effective immediately.

        Stephanie Martino DiBelardino

        Reply to Stephanie
      2. Scott Coles -  November 8, 2019 - 1:46 pm

        Although none of this has been tested yet as I understand the new fees do not go into effect until January 2020 I would imagine that it would work much like before. When you check in you buy a cruising permit. In the past, that was good for a year and cost $xx. Now you only get 3 months for $xx or a year for twice that amount. So when you check in you should know which you want to purchase. Do not confuse the cruising permit which is "attached" to the vessel with a visa which is "attached" to the individual person(s). In the past we have been granted 150 day visas and other times the max that they would give was 90 days. The visa can be renewed by appearing in person at the appropriate place. For us this was in the Marsh Harbor government building. I don't know how that is working mow. It would be best to request as much time as you can get the first time so as not to need it renewed.

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      3. Stephanie DiBelardino -  November 8, 2019 - 1:44 pm

        I am a seasonal resident of Grand Bahama. I am making contacts now to get you the correct answer.

        Reply to Stephanie
    • Marine Industries Association Treasure Coast Adds Classifieds! Stuart, FL


       Fort Pierce City Marina 1 Avenue A, Ft. Pierce, FL 34950 (772) 464-1245 Facsimile (772) 464-2589

      At the intersection of the Atlantic Intracoastal Waterway and the Okeechobee Waterway, Martin County, A CRUISERS NET SPONSOR, is a hub of boating activity and of events of interest to boaters.

       

       
       
      MIATC | PO Box 1639Stuart, FL 34997

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    • Bahamas Chatter: Long Island and Crooked-Acklins

      Explorer Charts - the best charts for the Bahamas and Exumas

      Bahamas Chatter is produced by Explorer Chartbooks, A CRUISERS NET PARTNER, which has long been the standard navigational supplement for enjoyable, informative, and safe cruising through the beautiful Bahamian waters and island visits.

      Bahamas Chatter: Long Island and Crooked-Acklins
      Long Island and Crooked-Acklins

      Posted: 06 Nov 2019 04:02 AM PST

      Just looking for any information on the general conditions of Long Island and Acklins-Crooked Islands regarding storm damages. We were at Long Island in 2015, before hurricane Joaquin, and are leaving SC in a few weeks, heading back down. I plan to call some marinas and businesses there but have not done that yet. Has anyone been there recently, or have any good current info?

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    • More Good Words for Oriental Marina and Inn, Oriental, NC, Neuse River, AICW Statute Mile 181


      Toucan Grill and Fresh Bar in Oriental, NC

      Oriental is home to longtime CRUISERS NET SPONSOR, Oriental Marina and Inn, lying on the eastern banks of inner Oriental Harbor. Our thanks to Bill Brubaker for these kind words.

      Great help getting us in. Adequate depth under our 4′ keel. Bathrooms good. Restaurant was closed, but we’ve eaten good food here before and were disappointed we arrived on the only day closed during the week. However, great meal at M&M’s restaurant a short walk away. My wife likes shopping in this little town.
      Bill Brubaker

      Click Here To View the Cruisers’ Net’s North Carolina Marina Directory Listing For Oriental Marina

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    • Depth Report from Watts Cut, SC AICW Statute Mile 503


      Watts Cut is a straight, narrow AICW channel that connects the South Edisto River with the Dawho River south of Charleston. Our thanks to Heather Craven for this report.

      Went through Watts cut at low tide and followed the center of the channel and the lowest depth was 8.1 feet. We draw 6.0 feet.
      Heather Craven

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    • Report from One and Only Anchorage, San Pablo, FL AICW Statute Mile 744


      “One and Only Anchorage” lies on the eastern shore of the Waterway, south of flashing green daybeacon 17, and just north of the San Pablo Bridge. It is considered the only safe anchorage in the Jacksonville Beach area, thus its unusual name. Our thanks to Greg Zarus for this excellent update. 

      10/27/2019 We anchored my my Catalina 36 here after several failed attempts to find good holding along the ICW for 7 mi further north. We surveyed the bottom in this area and found it more than sufficiently deep-30 ft in some areas and more than 12ft right up to shore. I believe there is room enough for 2 or 3 boats. Holding was strong as we pulled 3/4 throttle with the current to check.
      Greg Zarus

      Click Here To View the Eastern Florida Cruisers’ Net Anchorage Directory Listing For One and Only Anchorage

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