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    • Two Historic Sites Not to Miss in Coconut Grove – Captain Jane Reports

      What a wonderful report from our fearless roving reporter, Captain Jane Tigar. So many cruisers spend time in the Coconut Grove – Dinner Key region of South Miami every year, whether tied to the dock at Dinner Key Marina or on a mooring at Coconut Grove Sailing Club (A SALTY SOUTHEAST CRUISERS’ NET SPONSOR) or the new Dinnery Key mooring field. Captain Jane informs one and all about two historic sites within walking distance of the docks that “should not be missed.” Give her story a read, and then let us know

      Sometimes, it’s so tempting to stay in our cocoon like boats — after all, once you are on board, why would you want to get off a boat except for laundry, land heads and supermarkets — and West Marine?
      The parade of winter storms of ’09-’10 taught us how important it is to remember to get off our boats and explore the communities we visit and as much as I cherish the lonely anchorages where it’s just us, the wind, the water, the birds and the under water life, I admit that civilization has its charms. Dinner Key is one of those places that has some serious charm. Here are two places where we found charm and connection to the essential spirit of Coconut Grove, both within walking distance of the Dinner Key City Marina.

      Close-up of part of the restored ceiling art and murals in the historic Dinner Key City Hall. Photo by Jane B Tigar

      City Hall is well worth a visit and it’s literally next door.
      If you’re here on a week day, worth a visit is City Hall, adjacent to the marina (to the right facing the land). It’s so close you can probably see it from your slip or your mooring ball. Since 1954, City Hall has been right here in the former Pan American seaplane terminal. Pan American World Airways’ flying boats were based here in the 1930s and ‘˜40s and Dinner Key became a main hub for air traffic between North and South America until seaplanes went out of style. At that point, Pan Am moved its hub to Miami.
      The terminal has been carefully restored and you can now see wonderful art deco murals commemorating aviation history along with Zodiac symbols on the ceiling that had been painted over in the ’50s. There is also a small display of fascinating photographs from the seaplane era, including one of Charles Lindbergh. For more information about this historic site, check out the City of Miami website: http://www.ci.miami.fl.us

      Barnacle House - Steve Dimse, Florida Park Services Specialist, giving us an engaging two-person "I can't believe you came out in this cold weather" tour

      Step through a Time Portal at Barnacle Historic State Park.
      The Barnacle Historic State Park is reason alone to visit Dinner Key and do so on a weekend or Monday. A 20-minute walk (just under a mile) from the marina, up Main Avenue on the left hand side, you will see a little off-set treed area with a historic marker and a path. Follow that path — in a moment you will forget the bustling commerce and you will enter a real `hammock’ of indigenous Florida vegetation and towering ancient live oaks.
      You are now in the late 1890s when Miami was undeveloped and natural. Here you can explore the five acre park that was once the homestead of a real character of a guy from Staten Island who `discovered’ Biscayne Bay. Ralph Middleton Munroe, a relative of the poet Longfellow, and a follower of the transcendentalist movement, settled in Biscayne Bay, first in a tent camp, and then in a house that, thanks to the generous donation by his heirs, is now the centerpiece of this Florida state park. Ralph Middleton Munroe built the Barnacle House in 1891 and it is furnished with some of his original furnishings plus antiques and other items donated by his family. He was a yacht designer, naturalist, seaman, and civic activist whom the US Parks Service describes as `one of Coconut Grove’s most charming and influential pioneers.’
      Note, the park is closed Tuesday through Thursday. It is open Friday through Monday from 9-5. Tours are at 10 and 11:30 AM, and again at 1 and 2:30.
      Check with the Park about special events. Wednesday nights at 6 PM there is a yoga class. If you are visiting the weekend of January 15, the park is hosting Shakespeare in the Park with a production of Taming of the Shrew. Sunday, January 24, 2010, there is an Old Time Dance with live music and someone teaching traditional American folk dance steps. There seems to be one or two events a month. For more information: http://www.TheBarnacle.org
      If you do visit Barnacle House, and we hope you do, please post a comment here and let us know if you, too, felt the multi-faceted genius Ralph Middleton Munroe come alive. That visit alone gave us a feeling of deep connection to Coconut Grove. As you walk around town, you may see historical markers referencing his contributions to other parts of life in Coconut Grove. In fact, I’m transmitting this story to the Salty Southeast while using the free wifi in the public library, a charming historic site itself, surrounded by palm trees and garden and only a short walk across the street from the Dinner Key Marina. It’s on land donated by Ralph Middleton Munroe who started the first library in the area, acquiring and delivering books by boat. It is also the site where Munroe’s first wife is buried. Just next door to the library, is another historic site, the women’s club built in the 1890s, also on land donated by Mr. Munroe.
      Jane Tigar
      S/V Lady Jane

      Hi Jane
      Thanks for a great post. I’ve just returned from a 10 day stay aboard our boat `Cloud Nine’ at Dinner Key Marina. You’re right. We can see the Miami City Hall from our slip and I never set foot inside the building. I will be sure to visit on my next trip for sure. My husband, Tom is currently in Dinner key and I will pass this site on to him. We loved the Coconut Grove Arts Festival over President’s day weekend.Much to see and do in this charming town
      Keep up the good work.
      Pam Frech
      Cloud Nine

      Great post ,good to see the old Monroe house has been preserved. I had a friend that I worked with at Bertram Yacht yard in the mid 60’s that was the care taker of the house when the Monroe where out of town. My wife would Join them on weekends at the house which was a great treat. The gardens and front lawn down to the water were magnificent in the evening.
      S/V Seamist
      Dave Skiff

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    • Good Words About the Dinner Key Mooring Field (Miami – Coconut Grove)

      Both the messages below paint a very different picture of the Dinner Key Mooring Field than what was shared in an earlier posting here on the Cruisers’ Net (/unhappy-times-at-miami-beach-marina-near-government-cut-inlet). There has also been an earlier, very positive posting concerning this mooring field (/great-experience-in-the-dinner-key-mooring-field-miami-coconut-grove-near-st-m-1094-5). Read all this info, and make your own decision, but it certainly looks as the tide of opinion in the Cruising Community is now running in favor of this facility.

      While I am in favor anchoring, from time to time moorings have great advantage. And in the case of the Dinner Key area this couldn’t be truer. For years I have passed though this area, but tended to anchor away from the crowds which I might ad looked mainly unseaworth and derlict. I did this because I have experienced many times vessels draging anchor. The dinner key area has really cleaned up for the better. My experience at the dinner key mooring field was terrific. The staff was professional and the facilites were clean. I hope that the moorings continue in the future as I hope to return.
      Captain Thomas Ryne
      S/V Sea Dog

      I stayed at the Dinner Key Mooring Facility all of January 2010 and it was one of the greatest experiences I had in my 25 years of sailing. They have a great staff, shuttle service and a pumpout boat. The view of downtown Miami is increadable!! My vessel is 40 feet LOA.
      Why didn’t the 47ft Soulmates stay in the big marina ‘“ funny, they have an expensive boat but I guess their too cheep for their britches.
      Capt. Bob

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    • Having Fun In Key West

      Below, all crusiers will find some really good advice on how to have some fun, and, in particular, how to take a cooling dip while in Key West, courtesy of Captains Jason and Shelley. Sounds like a good plan to me. Anybody want to buy me lunch at Sunset Island??????

      Key West Tips. A great low cost tip on enjoying yourself in Key West’¦ if you are anchored off or staying in a marina where there is no pool (e.g. City Marina), you can use the one at the Conch [Harbor]Marina [on Key West Bight] simply by eating or drinking lunch at one of the two poolside restaurants there. (Diablos is the name of one) The food is quite good and the pool is fantastic. The only downside is that it closes at sunset. Don’t miss the Schooner Bar- a great world class cruiser friendly facility. We have docked at The Conch twice and it is really friendly, central and wonderful but like most things Key West’¦expensive. Mallory Square is overrated and increasingly more like a freak show than a sunset celebration.
      Another fun thing to do is take the launch out to the restaurant on Sunset Island for lunch. Dinner there can be very pricey but the food and experience is fun and nearly affordable at lunch.
      Jason and Shelley

      Click Here To View the Florida Keys Cruisers’ Net Marina Directory Listing For Conch Harbor Marina

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    • Gilberts Marina (Jewfish Creek, St. M. 1134)

      Gilberts Marina overlooks the western banks of Jewfish Creek, south of the new high-rise Jewfish Creek bridge. Many cruisers consider Jewfish Creek to be the northern Genesis of real Florida Keys cruising, at least for those going by way of the Inside/ICW/Florida Bay route. I would not argue with that sentiment!

      The docks are being rebuilt. The marina is very basic, but a safe place to get fuel and recharge the batteries, etc. We stopped hereon Super Bowl Sunday and joined the crowd to watch the game. It was very quiet last night
      The bar patrons are not a problem and restrooms/showers clean enough. I have seen worse in marinas that do not share with a bar.
      The new bridge has cut down on the bar business a lot.
      Doug

      Click Here For The Cruisers’ Net’s Florida Keys Marina Directory Listing For Gilberts Marina

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    • Garrison Bight City Marina (Key West)

      Garrison Bight is one of two city owned facilities in Key West, the other being Key West Bight City Marina. Garrison Bight is a good facility, particularly now that the showers were rebuilt after the 2005 hurricane season, but sailors need to be aware of some fairly low power lines in this harbor.

      Garrison Bight City Marina Mooring Field located between Fleming Key and Sigbee Park has expanded to 100+ mooring balls at a monthly rate of $296 or daily at $16.75 w free weekly pump out that comes to your boat. Will accept up to and including 50 foot boat. Dink ride to Old Town is 10 minutes where one must pay $6 day to tie up OR use the free 2 hour dingy dock. The other dingy dock at Garrison Bight for those using mooring ball is free, but about a 15 minute ride and a long walk to Old Town. Call Dockmaster @ 305-809-3981 for details. We are quite happy here, planning to stay for two months’¦.but where is everyone else? Not crowded at all.
      Sharon Larrison Stepniewski

      Click Here For The Cruisers’ Net’s Florida Keys Marina Directory Listing For Garrison Bight City Marina

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    • Coconut Grove Sailing Club Mooring Field Recommended (near St. M. 1094.5)

      Transient Moorings in Miami at Coconut Grove Sailing Club, 24 hour launch & security, Short walk to Coconut Grove, Daily & Monthly Rates (305)-444-4571 EXT 16, manager@cgsc.orgIt’s seriously nice to hear good things about our newest SALTY SOUTHEAST CRUISERS’ NET SPONSOR!!!
      Coconut Grove Sailing Club lies along the Dinner Key – Coconut Grove waterfront, south of Dinner Key Marina. Slip space is not a possibility (except for dinghies), BUT visitors are encouraged to pick up a mooring. Excellent facilities are available in the clubhouse, and Coconut Grove’s many attractions are within easy walking distance.

      We are currently moored at CGSC and recommend it. The rate you have on the site is out of date ‘“ currently $35. That includes full access to the club and 24-hour launch service. Fresh Market a few blocks away plus tons of great eateries. The movie theater at Coco Walk is currently closed, but is scheduled to reopen in April.
      One gripe ‘“ birds are a real problem here between November and March. The rain today will wash our boat a bit, but the gulls and `black’ birds are a real issue. The club says we can tie up at the dock before we leave and wash down. There is room for about four boats at the dock with 4.5 feet at the inner spaces. I have seen members tie up overnight, but no guests are allowed to stay there for long.
      Doug

      When I checked out yesterday, the Sailing Club only charged me $20, as you stated originally. They made an error in quoting me the higher price.
      Doug

      Click Here For The Cruisers’ Net’s Florida Keys Marina Directory Listing For Coconut Grove Sailing Club

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    • Buttonwood Sound Anchorage and Dinghy Dockage

      There was an earlier posting here on the Cruisers’ Net about dinghy dockage which has recently become available on the waters of Tarpon Basin at the Government Center (/dinghy-dockage-now-available-at-tarpon-basin-anchorage). Buttonwood Sound, the subject of the Captain Trachtenberg’s message, lies a bit farther south on the Florida Keys Inside/ICW/Florida Bay route.
      The anchorage referred to below is termed the “Buttonwood Sound’“Sunset Cove Anchorage” in the Net’s “Florida Keys Anchorage Directory.”

      We usually use the dinghy dock at Snooks restaurant/bar, which is on Buttonwood Sound, between red 54 and green 55. The approximate coordinates of the anchorage are 25 5.7 N – 80 26.733 W. The dock is available to customers if you want to eat or have some drinks (latter recommended, former … not so much). Otherwise there’s a (sort of) boat ramp directly to the right of the dinghy dock where you can tie up to the mangroves and walk in. Nice central location.
      Adam
      “Sea Monkey”
      Miami, Florida

      Click Here To View the Florida Keys Cruisers’ Net Anchorage Directory Listing For The Buttonwood Sound’“Sunset Cove Anchorage

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    • Captain Jane Reports on Marathon, MM 50: Incredible Fruit (and vegetable) Stand

      Wow, Captain Jane has really made a find here!!! What an incredible Florida Keys resource to stock the galley with the freshest of fruits and vegetables!

      You’d think I was hired by the City of Marathon Public Relations Department, but the full disclosure is no, I’m not, there’s just a lot of really good things happening in Marathon here in the Middle Keys. Today’s prime example, which I type just as the First Annual Keys Traditional Music Festival opens for its second day a mile or so away and a week before the Pigeon Key Art Festival, is the weekly Farmers Market.
      Location: One mile walk from City Marina — turn right, walking past the Marathon Community Park, cross over the main road when you see a traffic signal, keep on walking. Starting at 10 AM (across the main road from K Mart) you’ll see cars pulling over to the side and a big truck dispensing free key limes and your box top that will serve as your shopping basket. On our visit this morning, egg plants, water chestnuts, water melons, exotic carrots in multi colors in ziploc bags (good for snacking and really fine!), kirby pickling size cucumbers, zucchini, sweet red peppers, bok choy and I’m sure I’m missing plenty in this recital…
      I spoke to Pete, one of the organizers who said the proceeds benefit the community in a variety of ways. The leaflet he gave me says the sponsor is the Educational Coalition for Monroe County (ECMC) and it supports Marathon Sk* Association, Collegiate Arts Magnet Program & Careers, Project Green environmental project, Youth leadership workshops and Dancing Classrooms. For more information, to volunteer, or give a donation, call (305) 743-6215.
      Why the free key limes? A volunteer said: Because we love you. Pete elaborated: After Hurricane Wilma, the fourth Cat 5 hurricane of the 2005 season and, from what I’ve read, the most intense, the key lime crops were destroyed and folks really missed this quintessential Florida Keys symbol and fruit. So, the Incredible Fruit Stand found a supplier and gave the limes away to make people feel good. The feel good continues to the tune of — I think he said 70 bushels a week.
      Get there early for best selection, advises Tina Belotti of the ECMC. Tina says the Incredible Fruit Stand gets about 250 customers every Saturday. Take a look at our haul and you’ll see why.
      Captain Jane
      S/V Lady Jane

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    • Plantation Key Yacht Harbor (near Islmorada, St. M. 1155)

      Plantation Key Yacht Harbor is one of only two marina facilities directly on the Florida Keys Inside/ICW/Florida Bay route that caters to crusiers. It is located southwest of Tavernier Creek, just off the ICW.

      Was assistant dockmaster there for a spell-nice bunch of liveaboards and always an opening for transients, ask for John for the best and friendliest help, get a taxi to Lazy Days for the best fish anywhere. Lorelei for sunsets, avoid Trading Post for groceries unless you like to pay double, boat over to the sandbar halfway out of whale harbor oceanside at low tide for a nice walkabout on the sand, take a fold up chair and a six pack ( please don’t litter) and kick back. See you there soon.
      Robert Wittenbeck

      Click Here To View the Florida Keys Cruisers’ Net Marina Directory Listing For Plantation Key Yacht Harbor

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    • Shallow Depths on Snake Creek Channel/Inlet

      Snake Creek is an important passage that allows Florida Keys cruisers to easily pass from the Inside/ICW/Florida Bay route to the offshore Hawk Channel route, or the other way around. A couple of years ago, I began to hear reports that the Snake Creek channel was shoaling on its extreme Hawk Channel side tip. However, the report from Captain Brad below is the most alarming I’ve seen. Looks like vessels drawing 5 1/2 feet or better may have trouble in Snake Creek, even at high tide.
      It would be very helpful to one and all if some other cruisers would chime in, and share their experiences and soundings observed while running Snake Creek within the last several months. Just click on the “Comment on This Posting/Marina/Anchorage/Bridge” link below.

      I had a slip in Islamora for a month (October). [My] boat draws 5’7′. [I] ran aground in Snake Creek on the way in on a mid tide, then bumped twice in the channel.
      Tried to day sail bumped twice on the way out and wound up hard aground on a falling tide and was stuck for 7 hours, 150 feet from open water.
      When I left there the final time on an almost high tide. bumped once in the middle but was ok after that. Even on a +2 tide lots of places set of my shallow water alarm (6ft)
      Brad

      I went through here with a 53′ trawler drawing 5 feet with tides starting to go out. Jan. 13, 2010, 2:00 PM
      Very low depths but no touching going east into the Hawk Channel. Worst point, according to my dephtfinder, was just east of the last markers where the depth was showing right at 5 feet. My keel did touch coming in to the creek on the western end.
      Andrew Scallan

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    • Great Experience In the Dinner Key Mooring Field (Miami – Coconut Grove, near St. M. 1094.5)

      There was an announcement here on the Cruisers’ Net several months ago, informing one and all that the new mooring field at Dinner Key (southern Miami) was now open for business. Looks like Captain had an excellent experience there.

      The Dinner Key Mooring Facility was the most professionally operated and best value I have ever experienced. I will definately visit there again!
      Capt. EJ Maguire

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    • Cruising from Marco Island to The Florida Keys

      The northerly part of the cruise outlined by Captain Jim below leads through (or at least parallel) to the Ten Thousand Island region of southwestern Florida. Then, as is ably outlined below, there are several choices as to how to cruise from the Little Shark River – Cape Sable area to the Florida Keys.

      From EC or the Indian Key area, travel south along the inside boundryline of the Everglades National Park boundry (clearly marked on the charts) to avoid crab pots. Water is reliably 5 – 6 ft in this area. Outside the park, there are several large crab fields, but of course, deeper water. Which anxiety do you prefer? You do have choices. Again, best time for this area is generally noon and later, when afternoon high tides are coming on. Go into the Little Shark River for another neat, wild anchorage. Mind the shoal building southwest into the gulf from the north shoreline. No place to walk a dog.
      From the Little Shark, you’ll have several choices. One is the Yacht Channel south and east across Florida Bay. It’s shallow, and there are crab fields to avoid, but even in 20 kt winds, seas will be calm because of the shallow water. This choice takes you toward Channel 5 and Islamorada. Choice two is to head slightly southwest to Seven Mile Bridge and Marathon. That part of Florida Bay carries somewhat more water – 10 – 15 ft – but is still a fairly good ride in 20 kt winds, at least until you go under the bridge into Hawk Channel. Then, it’ll change abruptly, and get potentially uncomfortable. From there it’s only an hour or so to Marathon harbor and cover.
      The third option is to head west towards Key West/Las Tortugas. If you go to the Tortugas, be aware, it’s about a 65 mile open water transit west
      of Key West, and the last third of that is in deeper gulf water (100 ft). That trip is completely exposed from virtually every direction and carries ocean sea states. Don’t go to the Tortugas unless you are well provisioned and could stay a week or more if you had to wait out a weather window. Worst case is a shopping trip from the Tortugas on a ferry to Key West, but that’s certainly not optimum.
      Jim
      Peg and Jim Healy aboard Sanctuary

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    • Dinner Key Marina and Coconut Grove – Captain Jane Reports (St. M. 1094.5)

      Our fearless roving reporter, Captain Jane Tigar, turns her discerning eye to Dinner Key!

      View from the marina office entrance. Note the wide fairway and how long a walk it can be from your boat to the gate!

      A convenient stop on your way to the Keys is Dinner Key — not just for dinner, of which there is plenty offered — but maybe even for a day or two checking out the historic sites, not the boring it’s good for you kind of sites, the really fun kind of interesting sites as you’ll see in part 2 of this report.
      This was our first visit and as some of the best things in life are, it was one we had not planned. Out mast too tall for the 56-foot Julia Tuttle Bridge, we seized a brief weather window to make the outside run from Lauderdale to Miami but needed a safe place to sit out the next storm. So, having at least advanced our position if not to The Keys to at least a place with Key in its name, we found ourselves waiting out the weather at Dinner Key Marina owned by the city of Miami. At $2.50 a foot plus tax for a slip with hook-ups, it’s hardly a bargain by more northern standards, but it’s a real deal compared with close to $4 a foot in nearby Miami and, for our touring tastes at least, there’s much more to do and see within walking distance of our boat.
      There are almost 600 slips at the modern cement fixed docks; during the second week of January, transient slips appeared plentiful. During this stormy weekend, we found ourselves comfortable and well protected from the winds and waves on adjacent Biscayne Bay.
      Moorings are plentiful here — over 200! — for boats 40 feet LOA and under at $18 plus tax per night. Call ahead though as there are moorings in depths of as little as 4 feet; marina staff told us there was plenty of room for a 5-foot draft and that despite the written maximum of 40 ft, they could take a boat up to 42 feet LOA. Depths may improve by spring as a $1.4 million 7-month dredging project in the marina has been underway since December 2009. There is shuttle service that runs on demand during the week and on the half hour during weekends between the mooring field and the main dock; schedules are at the office.
      In contrast with Vero Beach Municipal Marina, this is the kind of marina a cynic would imagine a city marina would be. We were welcomed on VHF Channel 68 with somewhat unclear directions to our slip. This was followed by what my first rate first mate calls “the unobtrusive” style of docking assistance. Not only did no one in a bright colored parka wave to us and with a smile point out our slip, no one even at the last minute offered to take a line. There was, to put it simply, no one to help us. On the other hand, fairways are twice as wide as most marinas so it is easy to maneuver and spin around. Oh, and what the heck, it’s good to know that the marina staff has confidence in our docking skills. Be sure, however, to ask which side of the numbered pier your slip is on. The slips are not numbered with all the odd numbers on one side of the pier and all even numbers on the other.
      Clean showers and heads are adjacent to the marina office, all of which is in what I call prison architectural style. If you are at a slip, bear in mind that it can be a very long walk to these facilities. The good news is pump outs are easy — a mobile pump out service is available. Laundry machines look good, but this is such a huge marina for the number of machines, I would not count on this as a laundry stop unless you don’t mind practicing the fine art of getting on line for a set of machines. I’ve seen more machines at marinas a fourth of its size.
      There is no fuel available at Dinner Key Marina, but there is fuel at two adjacent locations, though at Grove Harbour Marina where there is a Shell sign, we were unable to find anyone to help us and we refueled much later down the water way.
      While we did not sense the lively community “it’s camp!” spirit of Vero Beach City Marina and Marathon City Marina, perhaps this was due to everyone huddling in their boats during the cold snap that caused our four-day stay here.

      DIY Docking at Dinner Key Marina

      Dinner Key — still worthy of its name.
      At first glance, Coconut Grove looks like an over-developed city — much like Lauderdale, just smaller. But if you walk just a few blocks from the Marina, it quickly morphs into a charming village of shops and restaurants. If you want to eat out, it appears the Dinner Key appellation still holds and you have a lot of non-chain choices — Italian, Thai, Japanese, Argentinian, French, Spanish … From the marina office, walk to your left and then follow the edge of the marina, past the small commercial fishing vessels and to the main street. Cross the street and head slightly up hill and you’ll start to see the “charming” part of Coconut Grove, hang a left onto Main Avenue and you’ll find lots to choose from.
      For us, this stay, partly due to the excellent provisioning opportunity here (see below) was Dinner on the Boat Key, so we have no restaurant reviews to share. However, it was the weekend of Taste of the Grove, a food and music charity fundraiser held in Peacock Park adjacent to the marina. We can tell you that the items we sampled there at lunch, promising non-chain restaurants include: Atchana’s East/West Kitchen inside the Mutiny Hotel, just across from the Marina; Mayfair Grill at the Mayfair Hotel (excellent pork and jicama salad; and great skirt steak). First mate Michael vouches for Al Fresco’s penne a la vodka. The food at the Ideas restaurant which features “authentic food from Spain” also looked good, but we got full too soon. The Chart House also had attractive looking offerings. We also passed by a restaurant called Focaccio Rustica that looked excellent.

      Easy Provisioning Stop
      For those who prefer to dine on board, this is an excellent provisioning stop. If you don’t follow your iPhone GPS directions, the Fresh Market, a high end super market, is a 10-minute walk to the right (facing the land) basically tracking the shore line and walking through parking lots, going past City Hall in its historic building and Grove Harbour Marina.
      If you are here on a Wednesday, which we were not, check out the Green Market in town; it’s open from 11 to 4 PM. It’s supposed to have locally grown organic produce, local honey and local prepared foods. It’s in the Mayfair Atrium, in the main “cute” shopping area described above.
      While we would have preferred no storms and no record cold snaps, we thank the inclement weather for getting us stuck at Dinner Key.
      Jane Tigar
      S/V Lady Jane

      Stayed at Dinner Key as well, agree with the total lack of signage, very little (none) help from the staff, moored out in the middle of Biscayne bay, nasty chop. Old men have more water pressure than the showers, pump out was doityourself with no assistance and the pump didn’t work. Too many white shirts with VHF radios, nobody gets their hands dirty.They can learn a lot from Vero Beach. Not a good experience
      Peter Marrek

      Our experience exactly ….including non responsive dock hands, ….difficulty in finding slip numbers….etc. etc.
      But we love the downtown area and have taken public transportation to downtown Miami….recomend on sunday only. we checked in here upon returning from the Bahamas and had to go to the cruise ship area to check in.
      Pierre McCormick

      Click Here To View the Eastern Florida Cruisers’ Net Marina Directory Listing For Dinner Key Marina

      Click Here To Open A Chart View Window, Zoomed To the Location of Dinner Key Marina

      Comments from Cruisers (1)

      1. Alexander N Endlein -  March 12, 2016 - 5:05 pm

        If the customer service in most places in Miami is subpar, then the service at Dinner Key Marina is absolute garbage. The kind of service that makes you immediately regret having moved to Miami (and I speak fluent Spanish). The kind of service that forces you to set aside ample time to sit down and write a juicy, one star review just like the one that you are about to read. So you do not mistake this review for one coming from a non-credible source, I should probably mention that I am a USCG licensed Captain (50 ton Master) and a Cambridge engineering graduate with 20 years of boating experience. Also for the record, I have never really written a review before, but this nightmare could not have gone unpublished. Here is the sequence of events:

        1. I signed a one year contract with the marina for a commercial slip in August of 2014. The plan was to run charters to small groups of elite guests aboard my 41-foot Maxum. Having endured a 3-hour long trip down from Fort Lauderdale, my father and I finally pulled into our allocated slip. The very next morning, we were rudely woken by a bunch of goons banging on the fiberglass, asking why we had parked there. They had chained the boat to the seawall. I kindly replied that I had signed a one year contract for that spot. They later unchained the boat and barely made an apology. That is Dinner Key Marina’s idea of a welcome, apparently.
        2. One week following my arrival, I drove up to Orlando for a few days. There, the local police came knocking on my door announcing that they had found a boat registered to my name up on a beach in Fort Pierce (about 125 miles north of Miami). Long story short, a ring of drug smugglers stole my 41 Maxum from Dinner Key Marina. I still wonder if it was not someone from the marina who tipped off my absence. It took 3 months of investigations by the USCG, DEA, and the local Sheriff’s department, and an additional 3 months of quoting repairs before I recouped the money from the insurance company (the boat was declared a total loss). Dinner Key Marina did not help out with anything and did not even express their sympathies for what had happened. I later suggested that they install a camera to monitor that pier (Pier 9) and they really could not have cared less.
        3. I returned to the marina with a new Concept 36. Why do you ask? Because none of the other 30 odd marinas in Miami had availability for commercial vessels. I should also mention that although Dinner Key Marina welcomes commercial vessels, they are not zoned for commercial use. I found that out following a visit to the City Hall trying to get my zoning permit. So technically, everyone there operating commercially is illegal. The operations lady at the Dinner Key Marina, Maria Busto, one of the most impolite, ill-intentioned, dysfunctional individuals I have ever had the displeasure to meet, had promised me following the theft of the 41 Maxum, that she would give me priority on my original slip. Sure enough, when I returned to the marina with the Concept 36, she had given it away to somebody else and left me with a slip amidst a bunch of shrimping boats. Just for the record, all of the frustrating experiences delineated above were delivered almost exclusively by her, Maria Busto. Do not waste even a second of your time with her. Talk directly to Stephen Bogner, the manager, anytime you need assistance. I found this out too late. He is of great character and although he does not have much control over what goes on in his marina, he means well.
        4. My dad fell ill in early 2016 and I was forced to move back to Orlando to tend to him. I terminated my contract with Dinner Key Marina under this premise. My dad just passed away from heart failure at the age of 55. Even knowing about these circumstances, it took Dinner Key Marina nearly 4 months to refund my deposit. E-mails went unanswered almost every time. Every time I called in, no one was around even during business hours. Simply unbelievable.
        5. Summarizing, this was the worst experience I have had with any company in my entire life. I failed to mention the countless times I had to fend off people trying to steal my stuff at the dock (and they did), obnoxious fishermen tossing garbage around and having to pick up after them, birds crapping shrimp guts all over my boat, vandalism, and daily encounters with ill-tempered employees of the marina (with a few exceptions, including Renato, an awesome security guy). Come here at your own peril. This place is a disaster. It will drain you emotionally and ruin your life!

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    • Captain Jane’s In-Depth Look at Boot Key Harbor (Marathon)

      Our fearless roving reporter, Captain Jane Tigar takes an in-depth look below at what may be the most popular port of call in the Florida Keys, Boot Key Harbor!

      We aboard S/V Lady Jane now understand why people heading for the Bahamas, Bimini and elsewhere just happen to get “stuck” in Boot Key. From all I have read of Marathon’s not so long ago history and attendant cruising quality (or lack thereof) life, this truly is an example of how people can make change in the world. This is one of those ICW stops that is now clean, welcoming, fun and a “real community.” If you love Vero Beach Municipal Marina, you may want to check out Boot Key for your next Keys adventure.

      Marathon City Marina, sea wall dockage

      First, getting into Boot Key harbor: We draw 5, so we did not even think of using the Sister’s Creek entrance and most folks we’ve heard from don’t suggest it without local knowledge or a really shoal draft vessel. We used the West entrance which, heading North takes you quite close to the 7-mile bridge.
      Once in the marked harbor entrance, we followed the clearly numbered markers. We have read some recommendations that you not follow the marked dog-legging channel into the harbor, past the open bascule bridge, however, we followed the City Marina’s live radio advice and kept inside that channel. We draw 5 and while I don’t remember the exact depths we found, there was no pitter patter of the heart as I did my periodic glances at the depth sounder. Perhaps the advice I’ve read to go through the mooring field is out of date — I’m not sure.
      The very friendly and capable staff, from what we’ve experienced and heard on the VHF to others, give very clear and good directions to your mooring ball, or to the sea wall if you are taking one of the along-side ties with connections to electricity and land.
      When you check in, be sure to take your included goodie bag — a sturdy thermal shopping bag with useful vendor contact numbers on the outside and a bunch of literature, coupons, and information about the marina and Marathon.
      Your first morning we recommend that at 9 AM you tune in to VHF Channel 68 for the daily morning Cruisers Net program. This is a moderated morning “VHF radio show” that begins with a call to new vessels to the harbor to introduce themselves and say where they came from and what their plans are. Next up a call to departing vessels. Then news announcements — and these are often really worth listening to as it can range from announcements about the closure of the dinghy dock folks used to use for Publix and West Marine to free yoga gatherings at 10 AM next to the tennis courts, a tennis court event, the weekly softball game (equipment provided!), music offerings, cruisers offering free presentations or workshops about something they do or love — this morning it was foot reflexology lessons, tomorrow I’m offering a Native American flute demonstration and talk, last week a couple offered a “concert” from their stern and dinghies from 30 vessels gathered round in late afternoon to enjoy it…
      After the announcements, there’s buy trade and sell; after that cruiser comments and questions about pretty much anything from hair cuts to medical care; then there is time for cruisers needing help or assistance. It ends with Trivia questions — cruisers offer trivia questions and sometimes West Marine posts the question and gives a prize to the first correct answer.
      Now that you’ve been introduced to the community, dinghy in, or if you’re at the sea wall, walk over to the marina office and the giant cruisers’ lounge. It is huge and open only during marina office hours. It’s where you can receive your mail and parcels, buy ice, swap books, sit at a table with your laptop and use the free wifi, work on quiet clean projects (there is a sewing circle going on since we’ve arrived). For big noisy, dirty boater’s projects, walk a little further down the dock to the project rooms. You will probably see someone repairing a dinghy or tinkering with some other boat project. There are lockers there to store your supplies…

      The Tiki Hut, Marathon City Marina. View of the mooring field and one of the dinghy dock areas

      Your first Wednesday — don’t miss the Meet and Greet potluck at the marina’s Tiki hut, or in inclement weather, inside the marina office. It starts at 5:30.
      Good new land heads and showers and a big laundry facility are just a little further down the dock near the humongous floating and new dinghy docks.
      There are only two things I can criticize here and neither would keep me from staying here again. One is that the recycling doesn’t seem to get picked up as quickly as boaters can fill the bins. But I’m so thrilled that there are recycling bins and people are using them, that I feel curmudgeonly even mentioning that it can get a little unsightly near the garbage area in the far end of the parking lot. Could simply have been the glitch of a holiday weekend. The second is the problem of dinghies being a little more enthusiastic to get to land than they should. The marina staff is working on that in a characteristically kind but firm way.
      One of the great things about the City Marina is its location. You are literally adjacent to a great city park with the afore-mentioned tennis courts and soft ball field. We hear you can even borrow tennis rackets from the park. This is municipal service at its best.
      It’s a short walk from the marina to several restaurants — Annette’s Lobster and Steakhouse is right across the street and gets great reviews and a lot of cars in the parking lot for the modestly priced daily buffet lunch is a good sign. The Upper Crust Pizza, just a little to the right up the road from Annettes was also hopping when we passed by, and a Thai and Sushi place just next door. We can vouch for the Thai curries and pad thai — really good and authentic. Or walk left from Annettes to Key Fisheries; it’s a short walk and you can eat at the outdoor covered tables of the restaurant or buy smoked and uncooked fish from the attached fish market. So far, these are the best fish sandwiches we’ve had in the Keys and the spiny lobsters grilled outside to order are excellent and fairly priced. Have several movie titles in mind because you will need one to order your food and Casablanca and Avatar are usually taken. Or hop in your dinghy or kayak and scoot across the harbor to Burdines — they serve great seafood at reasonable prices and it’s a beautiful spot.
      Publix supermarket is only a mile away and for the aerobically hardy, West Marine donated several shopping carts you can wheel to Publix and back to the marina. For the less aerobically inclined, folks on the VHF Boot Key Cruisers Net recommend a taxi service that charges $5 to get you back with your groceries; there will be information in your welcome goodie bag
      Rental cars are available several miles up the road at the Marathon Airport. Budget and Enterprise have some good deals if you shop carefully and check the internet prices as well as the in-house prices — you never know which are better. As we discovered, it can be less expensive to rent a full week than a weekend. With wheels you are within 10 minutes of lots of great places to eat and provision.
      Stayed tuned for Part 2, for a glance at different marina options and maybe even a snorkeling review of Sombrero Reef. Can’t make any promises. We’re in the real Keys now.
      Jane Tigar
      S/V Lady Jane

      One quick correction! At Keys Fisheries ‘” it may not be a movie title you need to place your order; check the white board for the requirement du jour. Today, you needed the name of a cartoon character’¦
      And, while I’m at it ‘” I learned from experience that the City Marina Wednesday night Meet and Greet is an understatement; when they say bring a dish to pass, they mean major pot luck. Last night, the marina staff set out a big long table for the food in the huge cruisers lounge. First timers, like us, bring snacks, and anyone more than one week in residence, brings in real dinner food’¦ It was a big crowd!
      Jane

      We are now on a mooring ball having not visited here since 7 yrs ago. What changes and all for the positive!
      I will ditto all of Capt Janes comments, plus add that a weekly pumpout is included in your mooring fee (they come by your boat on a schedule and you do not need to be on your boat), and water is modestly priced at just 5 cents/gal. This mooring field should be the model for others in FL to follow. The rules are not overbearing and they really cater to the cruising community’“a novelty sometimes in the state of FL.
      Kathy and Jim

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    • Angelfish Creek – Passage Report as of 1/12/10

      I don’t think any channel in the Florida Keys has occasioned more comment here on the Cruisers’ Net than Angelfish Creek. For those who don’t already know, this creek provides a means to cruise from the Inside/Florida Bay Route (from Card Sound), to Hawk Channel and the briny blue. There has always been some question about depths along this route, and we have received many reports here on the Net about an underwater “rock,” near the point where the marked passage meets up with the deeper waters abutting Hawk Channel.
      I have personally sounded the Angelfish Creek on many occasions, and never seen less than 5 1/2 to 6 feet, and I’ve never found the infamous underwater rock. Other veteran Captains insist the rock is indeed out here. I guess yours truly and Captain Dunn (see below) were just lucky enough to avoid this obstruction.
      Even though we have had a recent question and answer string concerning Angelfish Creek here on the Net, I thought Captain Dunn’s report below was detailed and helpful enough to warrant a fresh posting. So, voila!

      Subject: Angelfish Creek Passage on Jan 12, 2010 and Anchorage Resort and Yacht Club, Jewfish Creek, Key Largo
      Cruising News: This is our first trip to the Keys in our 5.5′ draft sailboat. We came down the ICW from Miami to the very nice Anchorage Resort and Yacht Club on Jewfish Ck, Key Largo. I had read and asked for a week and worried about the passage out to Hawks Channel through Angelfish Creek. The dock master at Gilbert\’s Marina where we filled the diesel tank the morning of departure said “wind has been out of the north for several days and the water will be blown out of the creek and under no circumstances to try the passage”. Totally confused at that point, I called the Tow Boat US Key Largo operator on the VHF and asked his opinion. He told me that I should have no problem, especially if I went out on mid to high tide. We anchored for the night on the lee of Pumpkin Key, great anchorage, and left the next morning on the late incoming tide.
      All I had been told was to stay in the middle of the channel, especially at the west and east ends of the Creek. The mention of the infamous rock just before the deeper water of Hawks Channel loomed in my mind. All went very well. I never marked a true depth of less than 8.5′ and never
      felt the “rock”.
      I hope this helps others. I did follow the channel carefully, stayed in the middle at all times, and went out on a late to high tide.
      Captain Paul Dunn
      Serendipidty

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    • Dinghy Access Discontinued at Hurricane Hole Marina in Boot Key Harbbor (Marathon)

      Hopefully, as Captain Charmaine notes below, dinghy access will be restored within a few months at Hurricane Hold Marina. In the meantime, you can always dinghy ashore at the Boot Key Harbor City Marina and Sombrero Marina and Dockside Lounge.

      January 14, 2010
      FL KEYS – Boot Key Harbor
      Hurricane Hole Marina Dinghy Access
      No Longer Available due to Construction
      Wanted to let you know that in the Keys’ Boot Key Harbor dinghy access to shore via the Hurricane Hole Marina has been discontinued due construction at the Marina.
      I suspect construction will be ongoing for several months. I’ll be sure to send you an update in the future so your readers will know if and when access again becomes available.
      Big Hugs,
      Charmaine Smith Ladd
      Aboard s/v September Sea
      SeptemberSea.com

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    • Saving Florida Sales Tax

      The string of messages below is copied from the T&T (Trawlers and Trawlering) mail list, which, as always, we HIGHLY recommend as an adjunct to the Salty Southeast Cruisers’ Net. Anyway, perhaps these words of wisdom from our fellow cruisers might help to save some of us a bit of money, or at least a bit of confusion!

      A broker told me , as a selling point, that if I use a “broker” to sell my Florida boat, and then use a “broker” to buy the next boat, that I would be able to save the sales tax on the value of what my boat sold for.He claimed that was only doable with a broker.
      Anyone have any knowledge of this?
      See you in Paradise!
      Capt Sterling

      I’m not convinced he is representing the matter entirely truthful.
      According to Florida law, the purchase of your new vessel and the trade-in of your old vessel must be consummated in one single transaction.
      Your trade-in vessel must be placed into dealer inventory for resale.
      http://dor.myflorida.com/dor/forms/2009/gt800006.pdf
      Ryan

      I have first experience with this in Washington State. It worked here.
      Cheers –
      Peter

      Florida brokers can reduce the sales tax due for a buyer by subtracting the selling price of the trade-in vessel therefore making the total amount taxable the difference between the selling prices.
      This must be properly documented and executed. If you play by the rules, the savings can be significant.
      Judy

      But, the same does not hold true if an individual trades with another individual…correct?
      RC

      A vessel may be traded in towards the purchase of another vessel with the resulting sales tax savings only through a Florida registered and licensed yacht broker or dealer. It must be a sale and purchase by a Fl. broker/dealer in a single simultaneous transaction. This answers the questions of FSBO and trade in with intention of delayed purchase.
      Judy

      Well — perhaps it could if done correctly. If you are trading a $60,000 boat for an $80,000 boat, it seems to me that you could sell your boat for $1,000 and buy the other boat for $21,000. Just a thought.
      Alan

      All this sales tax thru brokers assumes the boat will stay in Florida and you are a Florida resident. You have, I think, 90 days to get out of Florida if you are not a Florida resident and you avoid Florida sales tax altogether. I bought privately in Florida and left in 2 weeks; no Florida sales tax.
      Ed

      But I believe in that situation you are liable to your state of residence for the sales tax. If they discover your purchase and if they realize you did not pay Florida sales tax they’ll send you a bill
      for it. There was a lot of turmoil some years back on a similar issue regarding Internet sales.
      Marty

      Florida has extended the Sales Tax Exemption from 90 days to 180. So yes, if you buy a boat in Florida through a licensed broker, you can stay in the state for 180 days without paying sales tax, certain conditions apply.
      But I think the point of the original post is that if you are buying a boat in Fl. and required to pay sales tax, trade-in under certain conditions can help save the sales tax total due.
      Judy

      I bought privately in Florida and left in 2 weeks; no Florida sales
      tax.”

      I just caught this mistake. Private buyers must pay sales tax in
      Florida!

      It is only licensed brokers that can offer the Affidavit for Sales Tax Exemption.
      If someone bought a boat privately in Fl. without paying sales tax, I would recommend seeking advice from a Florida maritime attorney if you plan to return to Fl. or if you plan to sell it to a buyer who might cruise Florida.
      Judy

      Just so there’s no confusion in terminology and to clear up a minor point.
      The exemption for a purchaser in Florida who is going to remove the purchased boat from the state applies even to private sales. Florida licensed brokers are required by the state to collect the sales tax due, unless a specific exemption applies (in the situation being discussed, removal from Florida within the “grace” period – Judy says it’s now 180 days). The seller in a private sale is not required to collect the sales tax; the burden is on the buyer to pay the sales tax (if the boat isn’t exempt).
      The tax paid to the “other” state where the boat is going to be taken after the purchase is a _USE_ tax, not a sales tax. Generally speaking, a state’s USE tax is the same percentage as it’s SALES tax.
      This is generally true in any state that has a sales tax or use tax. The exemption period may vary as well as the tax rates.
      I won’t go into any more of a discussion on this here, but just wanted to clear up some misperception that has already creeped into the several posts on this topic. There’s lots of info about the subject of taxes (both sales and use) on the internet and in the archives.
      Bob and Judy

      Bottom line — When you go to register your vessel, you will either pay sales tax at time of sale, or you will pay sales tax when you attempt to register your vessel in your home state.
      There are two ways to reduce your sales tax burden — via a trade in which reduces the taxable amount (because you already paid tax on the trade in), or by purchasing the boat for export (i.e. forming a corporation in the Cayman Islands that purchases the boat). Going the offshore route has its advantages, but unless the boat is a high dollar item, the fees associated with maintaining offshore ownership often outweighs the tax advantages of doing so.
      Gone are the days where you can cheat the guvmint out of their share. They will find out whether you paid or not and they *will* collect.
      Ryan

      There is no “exemption” anywhere.
      You will either pay sales tax in the state in which you purchase the vessel or you will pay sales tax in the state in which you register the vessel, but one way or the other, you *will* pay sales tax. Which state you pay in is determined by whether your state and the state in question have a reciprocity agreement in place. Some states do; others do not.
      Here are the rules for Florida:

      http://dor.myflorida.com/dor/forms/2009/gt800006.pdf

      If you are from out of state and buy from a broker, the broker will not collect sales tax with the caveat that you get the boat out of Florida within either 90 or optionally 180 days if you purchase an extension decal.
      This does not absolve you of your sales tax burden however. When you attempt to register the boat in another state, they will want to see proof that sales tax has been paid. Since you paid no sales tax in Florida, you will have no proof of same and will be required to pay sales tax in your state in order to successfully register your vessel.
      If your state requires the payment of sales tax in conjunction with the purchase of a vessel, you *will* pay that sales tax, regardless of which other state you purchased the boat.
      It is for this very reason that you will often see boats advertised “not for sale to US citizens while in US waters.” The boat was originally purchased by an offshore shell corp. or some other offshore entity for the purposes of avoiding taxation. If the boat were to be sold in the US, taxes would have to be paid by all parties. Since the seller doesn’t want to pay those taxes, he can only sell the boat to another offshore entity.
      Unless you take your registration offshore, you are obligated to pay.
      Ryan

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    • Slow Fueling at Grove Harbour Marina (near Dinner Key Marina, St. M. 1094.5)

      Grove Harbour Marina is located in the complex of marinas and marine service firms at Dinner Key/Coconut Grove.

      Despite having personally walked over to Grove Harbour Marina adjacent to Dinner Key Marina and inquired about fueling up the day before and having received directions and opening hours, late this morning, no one answered our hails on 16 and we circled for 15 minutes while trying to reach the fuel dock by phone. After several calls, someone claiming to be in the know said someone was coming but it was like waiting for Godot. We gave up and left. I hope this is an aberration. Based on our experience, I wouldn’t count on this for a fuel stop.
      Captain Jane Tigar

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    • Anchorage Resort & Yacht Club (Jewfish Creek, Statute Mile 1134)

      Anchorage Resort & Yacht Club sits just south of the new, high-rise Jewfish Creek Bridge, and on the opposite shore from Gilberts Marina. Many cruisers consider Jewfish Creek to be the northerly genesis of real cruising in the Florida Keys, at least for those choosing the Inside/Florida Bay/ICW route.

      Subject: Anchorage Resort and Yacht Club, Jewfish Creek, Key Largo
      Cruising News: We came south in the ICW from Miami in out 5.5 ft draft sailboat for our first cruise to the Keys. We found this marina in the guide book and noted a BOAT US discount for $1.50/ft for transient dockage. This is a wonderful marina in all respects. The docks are easy to approach. There is no extra charge for water or electric. There is a pool, hot tub, shower and restroom, grill for cooking out on their patio, and a great sunset view. The folks are friendly and do not bother you with unnecessary rules or regulations. I highly recommend this as a lay over for anyone. No fuel at their docks, but just across the creek is fuel. The new fixed high rise bridge over Jewfish Creek makes easy waterway travel.
      Paul Dunn

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    • John C. Pennekamp Coral Reef State Park Marina (off Hawk Channel, near Key Largo)

      The marina associated with John C. Pennekamp Coral Reef State Park is accessed by a marked passage, leading from Hawk Channel, just north of the Key Largo Canal. I have always found this passage deep, reliable, and far better marked that what the charts would indicate. However, there has been some whisperings here on the Net of late, that depths along this entrance channel are shoaling. Can anyone update us on the soundings here????? If so, please click on the “Comment on This Posting/Marina/Anchorage/Bridge” link below, and share your observations.

      We really enjoyed 2 days at John Pennekamp State Park where the coral reef is on Key Largo. They have 2 slips that they rent ($50 per day a few years ago) right in front of the park dock where the dive boats are. We had no problem with our 4.5 ft. draft 53 ft. Hatteras. You can take the park boats out to snorkle or dive the beautiful reefs, or go to the free govt. mooring balls with your big boat if it’s a nice day.
      Doug

      Jana and I enjoyed 2 days at Pennecamp between xmas and new years on our 45′ sundancer (Sun Dog). If you carefully stay in the marked channel, you’ll be fine. We never saw less than 6′ depths.
      Mike Griffin

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