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    • Warning for Jekyll Creek Depths, AICW Problem Stretch, GA Statute Mile 683


      Our thanks to Bill Weeks of Jekyll Harbor Marina, A Cruisers Net Sponsor, for this critical Local Knowledge regarding safe passage of this ICW Problem Stretch.

      Jekyll Creek was dredged last spring. The catch is, that only half of the 150’ channel width was dredged. The COE did a 75’ swath from the centerline of the channel to the EASTERN edge. In this part of the creek you will have 10 feet at mean low water. Boaters should be advised in transiting this part of the ICW that they should stay to the seaward side of the centerline. otherwise they will be in very shallow water even though their chart plotted sales they are in the “channel”. Anyway you guys could help get this word out? As you say, the sailboaters are still coming in good numbers, and this knowledge is very critical to them.
      Many thanks and best regards,

      Bill Weeks
      Jekyll Harbor Marina

      Click Here To View the Cruisers Net AICW Problem Stretches Listing For Jekyll Creek

      Click Here To Open A Chart View Window, Zoomed To This AICW Problem Stretch

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    • Anchoring Restrictions in Georgia-IMPORTANT UPDATE by Kim Russo

      Our thanks to Director Kim Russo for this update on anchoring in Georgia as posted on AGLCA’s Forum.

      Since publication of proposed rules for HB201 in late May, many individuals and boating groups have voiced strong opposition to the intent of the law and subsequent rules. Following a public meeting in June, a record number of public comments submitted to GA’s Coastal Resource Division of DNR, and a Stakeholders’ Meeting at CRD headquarters in Brunswick in late July, it became apparent that changes were needed in HB201. Following weeks of review and exchange of ideas between several boating stakeholder groups and individuals, areas of concern in HB201 were identified and suggested revisions were developed.

      Stakeholders representing Waterway Guide, a coalition of membership organizations (including America’s Great Loop Cruisers’ Association (AGLCA), Seven Seas Cruising Association (SSCA), Marine Trawler Owners’ Association (MTOA), and Defever Cruisers), National Marine Manufacturers Association (NMMA), and Save Georgia’s Anchorages contributed suggested revisions for GA’s Anchoring Law – HB201 and have submitted these changes to key GA legislators in hopes of getting a bill introduced in the 2020 session of the General Assembly.

      We have stressed the point that responsible boaters want to be involved in the process and help to find solutions instead of being viewed as part of the problem. A summary of the suggested revisions to HB201 will be shared with our membership as soon as possible.

      Kim Russo
      Director
      America’s Great Loop Cruisers’ Association

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    • Healy Report: Alternate Route, St. Andrew Sound, GA AICW Statute Miles 685-690


      Several route options to navigate St Andrew Sound, especially in foul weather, have been posted on Cruisers Net. Type St Andrew Sound in our Homepage Search window for those reports. Experienced cruisers and frequent Cruisers Net contributors Jim and Peg Healy share their ships log and navigation watches as M/V Sanctuary travels south on the FL/GA Waterway. Thank you Jim and Peg!

      About 2012, I plotted an alternate route across the northern part of St. Andrews Sound, but I never had the nerve (conditions) to run it.  Last year, Bob Sherer (Bob423) published an alternate that was nearly identical to mine.  To test the route, I wanted high tide and good sea conditions.  Today was the day.  High tide, bright sunshine, SSW 15 – 20.  I could feel Claiborne [Claiborne Young, founder of Cruisers Net] looking over me as I motored forth, laughing and chuckling approvingly!
       
      Here are my tracks southbound through St. Andrews Sound at today’s high tide:

      The alternate route is 6 statute miles from Jekyll Creek back to the Cumberland River.  The route is significantly more protected that the ICW route.  Note also, the “ICW Route” I follow is NOT the charted ICW route; I cut the bottom of Horseshoe Shoal, but I don’t recommend that unless the captain knows the route and tides well.As luck would have it, just as I turned off the main ICW route, I passed a sailboat running under power.  OK, I travel ever so slightly slightly faster than most sailboats, but when I rejoined the main ICW route in the Cumberland River, that sailboat was still behind me, just about where I’d left him.  I’d guess I didn’t lose more that 10 – 15 minutes taking the alternate route, and I never saw less than what would be 10 feet depth at MLLW.  I did pass two ActiveCaptain hazard markers.  Neither were representative of what I actually saw.  So my net is, keep this alternative route in mind for those days that aren’t so ideal on St. Andrews Sound.  It works.The actual .gpx route can be downloaded from http://fleetwing.blogspot.com, which is Bob Sherer’s website (Bob423).  It’s name is BStAndAlt. [Also try http://bobicw.blogspot.com. Thank you Hank}
      Jim
      Peg and Jim Healy aboard Sanctuary, currently at Charlotte Harbor, Punta Gorda, FL

      Click Here To Open A Chart View Window, Zoomed To the Location of the AICW’s Passage Across St. Andrew Sound

      Comments from Cruisers (3)

      1. Jon Bryant -  March 17, 2020 - 8:56 pm

        Transited St Andrews Sound yesterday March 16. NE wind 20 to 25 knots. I followed the ICW route, it became terribly rough. Steep four to six foot waves with a period of 2 to 3 seconds. In a 31 foot sailboat it was nerve wracking. So of course today I see the alternate route. Lesson learned, check Cruisers Net and Bob 423.

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      2. Larry Shick -  November 1, 2019 - 8:25 am

        You meant fleetwing.blogpot.com

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    • Still More and Photos from Capsized Vessel, St. Simons Sound, GA, near AICW Statute Mile 677

      The pilot on board the capsized car carrier Golden Ray deliberately took the vessel out of the channel and grounded her, according to a report in The Brunswick News. The 656-foot vessel capsized on September 8 in St. Simons Sound while heading out to sea with 4,200 vehicles onboard. See LNM Capsized Vessel.

      Golden Ray: Rock Operations Commence
      Maritime Executive

      Inside Golden Ray – A cargo assessment has taken place on the ninth deck
      Maritime Executive

      Rocks to be Placed Around Golden Ray
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      White Smoke Coming from Golden Ray
      Maritime Executive

      Golden Ray to be Disassembled on Location
      Maritime Executive

      Overturned cargo ship to be disassembled in St. Simons Sound
      WTOC via Chip Plyler on Save Georgia’s Anchorages

      Pilot Deliberately Grounded Golden Ray
      Maritime Executive Newsletter

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      1. Bruce Hildreth -  October 11, 2019 - 6:36 pm

        I went to the wreckage area in my boat and observed that the Golden Ray was lying perpendicular to the edge of the channel. To me, that adds credence to the intentional grounding theory.

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    • Interesting Strategy When Your Vessel Is Being Boarded by Law Enforcement Personnel

      Claiborne,
      I tried this and it worked.
      Took about fifteen minutes of discussion, but the officer, after making three phone calls, said he was not authorized to sign any document. He wished me a “good day” and left.
      Captain Robert Lucas
      S/V Aquitaine
      Bradenton, FL

      VESSEL BOARDING AGREEMENT

      The Fourth Amendment (Amendment IV) to the United States Constitution is the part of the Bill of Rights which guards against unreasonable searches and seizures, along with requiring any warrant to be judicially sanctioned and supported by probable cause, “The right of the people to be secure in their person, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures shall not be violated….”

      Search and arrest should be limited in scope according to specific information supplied to the issuing court, usually by a law enforcement officer, who has sworn by it.

      In Mapp v. Ohio, 367 U.S. 643 (1961), the Supreme Court ruled that the Fourth Amendment applies to the states by way of the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment.

      In Katz v. United States, 389 U.S. 347 (1967), the Supreme Court ruled that the amendment’s protections apply only when the searched party has a “reasonable expectation of privacy”.

      The Supreme Court has also ruled that certain searches and seizures violated the Fourth Amendment even when a warrant was properly granted.

      Oath of Boarding Officer:

      I ______________________________, acting as an officer of _________________________

      assert that I have probable cause to board the vessel _________________________________ for the following reasons:

      ___________________________________________________________________________

      ___________________________________________________________________________

      ___________________________________________________________________________

      I accept responsibly, under law, that this boarding is necessary and does not violate the protections of the fourth amendment to the constitution of the United States of America and the statutes of the state of _______________________.

      I waive all legal rights to defense of this boarding that the Captain of this vessel may raise under law.

      _________________________________________, Boarding Officer

      As agent of ________________________________

      Boarding is:

      Granted _______ , ________________________________ , Captain , Date :_______________

      Denied ________ , ________________________________, Captain, Date: _______________

      Fourth Amendment -Vessel Boarding Agreement

      BRAVO! and bravo again! I always wondered just which bureaucrat or politician gave up our Fourth Amendment rights regarding unreasonable search. My guess is that printers are humming already (if you’ve got one aboard). I hope we can find some more results of this tactic!
      Capt Mike
      S/V Blue Skye

      Captain Lucas:
      In checking the regs, I found:
      Coast Guard may go aboard any United States vessel at any time, anywhere to conduct a documentation and safety inspection.
      A search of a U.S. vessel beyond this type of inspection is subject to limitations under the United States Constitution. If a search extends beyond this narrowly defined scope, a court may be asked to evaluate the legality of the search by balancing the individual’s right to privacy in the specific circumstances of the search against society’s interest in detecting criminal conduct.
      Captain Whitney

      I printed it. We’ll see!
      Kevin R. Quinn

      Certain officials have standing search warrants. The Coast Guard does indeed have a standing warrant for the purpose of determining the seaworthiness of a vessesl for the intended purpose(voyage). A fire fighting offical has a standing warrant to enter a building for the purpose of fighting a fiire and for rescue purposes. Why would we need to ask any official to sign anything? Just ask them for the warrant that they have!! If it is a standing warrant, they must still provide proof. If they do not have a court approved warrant, deny the boarding!
      Thomas P. Sangston

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    • Update on Georgia Anchoring Law by Kim Russo

      Our thanks to Ted Arisaka for this update from Kim Russo of AGLCA as posted on Forum and on Save Georgia’s Anchorages.

      Update on Georgia Anchoring Law
      If you’ve been following along with the rulemaking process to implement Georgia’s new anchoring law (HB 201) which gives DNR the authority to both require a permit for overnight anchoring and to determine where boats can and can’t anchor, we have an important update for you.
      As of mid-September, DNR reports that they are still examining the possibility of requiring anchoring permits, but has no immediate plans for implementation. This is a change from the previously announced intention to require permits beginning next year.
      In May, DNR issued a proposed rulemaking, which quickly caught the attention of boaters who were outraged by the idea of having to purchase a permit in order to anchor overnight in waterways in Georgia. After a public comment period with a high level of engagement from boaters, stakeholders including our coalition were invited to a meeting at DNR in July to further discuss ideas for implementation. At that meeting, DNR planned to go back to the drawing board and release a new set of permitting rules around October.
      However, that plan has been abandoned for now. DNR currently has no immediate plan to move forward with the permitting process.
      DNR is, however, moving forward with defining anchorage areas. The approved anchorage areas are expected be the whole state, minus shellfish beds and some setback from marine infrastructure. The setback distances for these anchoring exclusionary areas is still to be determined after additional input from marinas and other stakeholders.
      While our group will remain vigilant as the rest of the rules pertaining to anchorage areas unfold, we view the current status as positive. The abandonment of permitting rules for the time being shows that the voices of boaters are behind heard. Many thanks to all of you who have taken part in this process to date.

      Kim Russo

      Comments from Cruisers (3)

      1. Bob Keller -  October 3, 2019 - 7:13 am

        There has been some encouraging news from Kim Russo and others about the ongoing DNR rulemaking phase for the HB 201 Anchoring Bill where DNR indicated they are not going to require anchoring permits starting on January 1, 2020 although they have not said permits are a dead issue either. Just as concerning is that Doug Haymans of DNR has said that the anchoring offset distances will be variable depending upon location and that marina owners will play a determining role in setting the distance from their marina! This is the fox guarding the hen house, is it not? Having variable setoff distances will make it nearly impossible for boaters to know what the setoff rule is for each location and allowing marina owners to determine the setoff distance from their marina is a problem because some marina owners want to eliminate all nearby anchorages. SGA and other boating groups have maintained that we do not support setoff distances of more than 150 feet and that this should be the rule in Georgia. We need to let DNR know that we do not support variable setoff distances, distances over 150 feet and do not support letting marina owners decide. Please contact DNR to voice your position on this: kelly.hill@dnr.ga.gov; tyler.jones@dnr.ga.gov
        Bob Keller

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      2. James H Newsome -  September 28, 2019 - 7:48 am

        Wally,

        HB201 is still law, and will be until (hopefully) a revised version is passed in the next General Assembly, but without approved rules it is teethless. It is encouraging that DNR has decided to back off on any implementation of rules, but we still need to be concerned. Setback distances must eventually be addressed because of the passing of HB501, which establishes an aquaculture/oyster industry in the coastal area. Even though HB201 is independent of HB501 they are interacting as far as setbacks are concerned.

        I would be surprised if DNR eventually establishes setback rules for only the shellfish beds. So setbacks from structures (my guessing here) will probably occur in the same rule. Director Doug Haymans has been consistent in saying that he does not think a uniform setback from structures (private docks, marinas, etc.) will work. The various groups protesting HB201 has offered 250' as a compromise distance that we will think will work. Any distance over 250' will affect anchoring near multiple marinas and this is a concern.

        As far as permitting still being on the table, my understanding from the July 31 stakeholders meeting, is that DNR is willing to back off on this for short term anchoring, but the stakeholders and Director Haymans agreed that DNR must have some way of managing long term anchoring vessels, if they are allowed at all. Such vessels are problematic as they often become derelict and/or washed ashore during severe weather.

        It's my hope that DNR will continue to reach out and work with the stakeholders so we can develop reasonable rules for anchoring concerns in GA coastal waters.

        Reply to James
      3. Ted Arisaka -  September 25, 2019 - 7:27 am

        Update came from Kim Russo. I merely shared her post. Please correct attribution.

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    • Georgia’s DNR August Meeting, James H Newsome Reporting

      Georgia’s HB201 which restricts anchoring in ICW waters raised many concerns among cruisers. Enter “Anchoring” in our Homepage Search window for the numerous reactions and reports concerning the legislation. Our thanks to James H Newsome for this latest report.

      Georgia’s DNR board and committees met yesterday for their regularly scheduled August meeting. There was no action item in the Coastal Committee nor DNR full board pertaining to the Anchoring Rule. Interesting sidebar here is that “they” refer to it as the Liveaboard Rule. Grrrrrr!

      The agenda did include an update from Coastal Division Director Doug Haymans.

      “Coastal Committee – Tab C

      Rob Leebern, Chair

      Members: Jones, Vice Chair, Addison, Lowe, McWhorter, Shailendra, Thomaston, Yancey

      a) Action on proposed amendments to the Coastal Incentive Grant Program Description, Chapter 391-2-5-.01

      through 391-2-5-.16 (Doug Haymans, Director of the Coastal Resources Division)

      b) Update on Live Aboard Rule, Results from Public Comment (Doug Haymans, Director of the Coastal Resources

      Division) (No material in board package)”

      This is consistent with what we were told at the stakeholders meeting on July 31. My notes from that meeting were, “Director Haymans will present the public comments to members of the DNR Board in August and anticipates that new version of the rules should be available in September or October. This will be followed another public comment period and a public meeting to be announced. DNR may adjust the final rules following this period based on public comments. The rules will then be submitted to the DNR board for approval and implementation will take place January 1, 2020.”

      FYI, Save Georgia’s Anchorages members Jack White Bob Keller and James H. Newsome co-wrote a letter explaining our concerns about HB201 and mailed it to the home addresses of every member of GA’s DNR Board well ahead of yesterday’s meeting. We wanted to make absolutely sure that the Coastal Committee and other DNR board members are aware that there are many Georgia boaters and national organizations who believe that HB201 is a bad law and needs to be repealed or rewritten in the next session of the General Assembly.

      We are hopeful that Director Haymans will respond favorably with the next version of the proposed rules. It is very apparent that DNR’s original plan for implementing the new anchoring rules has been altered by the strong public push back. We will continue to closely monitor the situation and advise members here of any new developments.
      James H Newsome

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    • Registration Open for Atlantic Intracoastal Waterway Annual Meeting, Nov 21-22, Savannah, GA


      Registration is now open for the Atlantic Intracoastal Waterway Association’s (AIWA) 20th Anniversary Annual Meeting in Savannah, Georgia. For more detail , see Registration.

      Click here for Registration Open for the Atlantic Intracoastal Waterway Association’s Annual Meeting
      International Dredging Review

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    • Georgia HB 201 Comments Deadline, Monday July 15

      Our thanks to James H Newsome for this reminder to send you comments by July 15. See Contacts for additional addresses.
       
      There are only 9 days left to submit your public comment to GA Department of Natural Resources.

      Written public comment will be received through Monday July 15, 2019. Comments should be legible, concise and limited to the proposed rule change. Following the comment period, the Board of Natural Resources will consider the proposed rule on August 27, 2019 at 9:00 AM at its Board Room located at 2 Martin Luther King Jr. Drive, SE, Suite 1252, Atlanta, Georgia.

       
      Mail or email comments to: Kelly Hill, Coastal Resources Division, One Conservation Way, Brunswick, GA 31520. Kelly.Hill@dnr.ga.gov
       
      James Newsome

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    • Contacts for Sending Comments Regarding Georgia’s HB 201 Anchorage Restricting Law

      Our thanks to James Newsome of Save Georgia’s Anchorages for providing this list of contacts for your use in sending comments regarding this new legislation. For examples of recent comments, type Anchoring in the Search window of our Homepage.

      Click here for LIST TO CONTACT FOR ANCHORING ISSUE IN GEORGIA

      6/28/19
      Many people, both individually and with groups, are working behind the scenes to influence the final decision on anchoring in Georgia as a result of the draconian legislation that was passed by the General Assembly earlier this year. We need everyone’s help!!

      @Coastal Resources Division – Georgia DNR

      There’s just over 2 week left to submit your comments to GA Department of Natural Resources. Mail or email comments to: Kelly Hill, Coastal Resources Division, One Conservation Way, Brunswick, GA 31520. Kelly.Hill@dnr.ga.gov
      James Newsome and Jack White

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    • AGLCA’s Report on the Brunswick Meeting on HB 201

      AGLCA’s director, Kim Russo, has been very involved with the suggested wording process for HB 201 sent to GA DNR and attended the 6/17 meeting with the GA DNR in Brunswick. This is her report to the AGLCA membership.

      The hearing held by DNR in Georgia last night was well-attend, with more than 50 people taking part in the meeting and more than 25 taking the mic to comment.  The news is mostly positive, but there is still a lot of time left in the process.

      DNR began by giving details of the new law slated to take effect January 1st.  During the DNR presentation, they did agree with our stance that all coastal waterways should be allowable anchorages with limited exceptions for shellfish beds, navigation channels, and a limited distance from marine infrastructure such as marinas and boat ramps.  This is a win.  AGLCA and our coalition (made up of SSCA, MTOA, and DeFever Cruisers) suggested that 150 feet is an appropriate set-back from marine infrastructure.  The group we worked with to craft consensus comments (which included GAMBA, Waterway Guide, Cruisers’ Net, Tom Hale, and Roger Long) also agreed to 150 feet.  However, DNR has not yet determined what that distance for this setback should be and is continuing to assess the options.  DNR also included private residences in the list of shore-side development where an anchoring setback might be put in place.  The addition of residential property to that list is something we will have to consider, but I believe it will be a problem for our members and for our coalition.  This could potentially put the wants of individual homeowners in front of the rights of boaters.  As a reminder, the waterways are in the public trust and are not owned by individuals.  That said, there may be a reasonable distance from private docks that boats should not be allowed to anchor.  I’m interested in hearing members’ thoughts on that issue.
        
      I was pleased to have the opportunity to reiterate our previously submitted comments on behalf of our members and our coalition.  Representatives from BoatUS, National Marina Manufacturers Association, GAMBA, and Waterway Guide also spoke in support of the right of boaters to anchor.  Current and former Georgia legislators addressed the group and agreed that there are problems with the law as written.  Many individual boat owners expressed frustration with the law, a primary theme being a lack of evidence that there is a need for these new restrictions, and the lack of enforcement of existing laws that could help solve the problems (if these problems exist in Georgia) of dumping raw sewage into the waterways and abandoning vessels. 

      There was no information provided by DNR on where they may be headed with the permit issue.  You have until July 15th to submit written comments.  Revised rules will then be presented by DNR to the Board of Natural Resources in August.  DNR has agreed to open another public comment period to gather feedback on the revised rules.  This will most likely take place in October.

      If you haven’t yet submitted written comments to DNR, please send them to:

      Kelly Hill
      Coastal Resources Division
      One Conservation Way
      Brunswick, GA 31520
      Kelly.Hill@dnr.ga.gov

      Simply, state who you are, why you’re interested in this issue, and what you’d like DNR to do.  If you are in agreement with AGLCA’s proposal, then you’d like DNR to amend the proposed rules so that:  

      -Permits are not required for anchoring 60 days or less
      -All coastal waterways are open to anchoring with the exception of shellfish beds, navigation channels, and within 150 feet of marine infrastructure including marinas, boat ramps, boatyards, or other vessel launching or loading facilities.

      Please consider sharing this information with four boating friends and asking them to submit comments as well.  

      If you have any questions about all of this, please don’t hesitate to ask!

      Kim Russo
      Director
      America’s Great Loop Cruisers’ Association

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    • US Army Corp of Engineers Report on Jekyll Creek Dredging, GA Problem Stretch AICW Statute Mile 683


      Our thanks to James Newsome for this USACE report on dredging in Jekyll Creek which has been a Cruisers Net Problem Stretch for years. The on-going dredging is more than welcome, it is essential! Jekyll Creek is home to CRUISERS NET SPONSOR, Jekyll Harbor Marina.

      Click here for Dredging pilot project could be a game-changer for Georgia coast

      Click Here To View the Cruisers Net AICW Problem Stretches Listing For Jekyll Creek

      Click Here To Open A Chart View Window, Zoomed To This AICW Problem Stretch

       
       

      Click Here To View the Cruisers Net Georgia Marina Directory Listing For Jekyll Harbor Marina

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    • Further Reaction to Georgia’s Anchorage Restricting HB 201

      Our thanks to Tim McNair, a full-time cruiser, for sharing his thoughts on HB 201.

      Regarding anchoring restrictions in the State of Georgia

      First, I would like to apologize for the length of this post. However, if you are at all interested in Anchorage restrictions in Georgia or anywhere else I encourage you to read this post in its entirety.

      My wife and first mate, Tawnya and I are full-time liveaboards currently doing America’s Great Loop.

      We were residents of Brunswick, Georgia for 21 years. I am a retired FBI agent serving my final 11 years in Brunswick, GA.

      We attended the public hearing at the Georgia DNR on 6-17-19 concerning the recent passage of Georgia House Bill 201, anchoring restrictions in Georgia.

      The Boating, cruising, live aboard Community was well-represented. Kim Russo, AGLCA director made an outstanding presentation as did many other national figures from the Boating world.

      It was apparent early on in the hearing that the concerns of the attendees was that this law appeared to be hastily written and passed with little to no studies or data to support its necessity and that sufficient laws were already in place, but not enforced in Georgia especially with regard to discharge of sewage. The ambiguity and near-impossible enforcement were pointed out.

      In my investigative mind it appeared that a NIMBY (Not In My Backyayd) scenario may have led to the creation of this law.

      Near the end of the hearing a lady, Amanda Williams, spoke in support of the law. She acknowledged that the group present were not the problem, but it was the 10% non law-abiding citizens who were the problem and that she was concerned about the cleanliness of the water in Georgia and was hopeful this law would help rectify that problem.

      I applaud Representative Hogan, the sponsor of the bill from Georgia District 179 for having the intestinal fortitude to speak before a somewhat hostile audience. However, when pressure as to why this law was created and as to the frequency of live aboard vessels that were problems, he cited one specific case of a former Navy vessel moored near downtown Brunswick being used as a live-aboard.

      By the way, Amanda Williams did not inform the group that she is a former Superior Court judge on the Brunswick Circuit in Georgia and currently an attorney in Brunswick.

      It may be coincidental but remains somewhat suspicious that the problem live-aboard mention by representative Hogan at the hearing is moored on the river behind Attorney and former Judge Williams office. Could this be the NIMBY that led to the creation of this law?

      Absolutely no proof Beyond A Reasonable Doubt here, but sufficient cause to to get answers to a lot of questions before public funds are used to implement this unnecessary, burdensome and ambiguous law that is an embarrassment to the Great State of Georgia and potentially sets dangerous precedent for our anchoring rights in other locations.

      In the above photo [being sought] the brick building to the right is attorney Williams office and the vessel in question is behind and to the left of her office.

      Tim McNair
      M/V IT IS WELL

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    • Letter to Georgia Legislators by Jim Healy

      Jim and Peg Healy cruise the Waterway annually and have been supportive of and outspoken on the issue of boaters’ rights for as long as I have known them. Jim is articulate, logical and reasonable in his writing, as you will see below. Our thanks to Jim for sharing his thoughts with our readers.

      Hon. Don Logan
      Hon. William Ligon
      Hon. Jesse Petrea
      Hon. Karen Mathiak
      Hon Al Williams
      Hon. Lynn Smith

      Ladies and Gentlemen:

      My wife and I are long-term cruisers. Our boat has been our principle home for 15 years. We are “snowbirds;” annually, we cruise north to spend our summers on the Chesapeake Bay, the NYS Canal System, or along the New England Coast. Each fall, we cruise south to spend our winters in SW Florida. Both spring and fall, we utilize the Atlantic Intracoastal Waterway (A-ICW) to transit the magnificent Low Country of Georgia. In our travels, we take advantage of both anchorages and marinas. Georgia anchorages we’ve utilized include several places around Cumberland Island, at Jekyll Island, the Frederica River at Ft. Frederica, the Duplin River, New Teakettle Creek, the Crescent River, the Wahoo River, several places at Walburg Creek, Big Tom Creek, the Ogeechee River and the Vernon River. Marinas we have visited include Jekyll Harbor Marina, Brunswick Landing Marina, Golden Isles Marina, Two-Way Fish Camp, Kilkenny Marina, Delegal Marina, Isle of Hope Marina, Sail Harbor Boatyard and Marina, Thunderbolt Marina, and the Savannah Downtown Municipal Docks. We try to visit and enjoy different areas on each passage.

      I am writing to express my general opposition to HB201. As I understand the revisions to the relevant Georgia Statutes, there appear to be two components of HB201. First is the discharge of sewage. Second is a new requirement for permits needed in order to anchor in Georgia estuarine waters. I will comment on each in turn, but I believe HB201 is based on flawed assumptions, and will only serve to confuse transient boaters like myself. Furthermore, it is going to be very difficult for boaters to comply, and both difficult and costly for Georgia Law Enforcement Officers to actually enforce. It’s hard to understand how this bill could have been adopted without input from Georgia Marina operators and from the boating public, since the burden of compliance falls on these two groups.

      With regard to the discharge of sewage:

      The Federal Clean Water Act of 1972 disallows the discharge of sewage within the territorial waters of the United states. It has been unlawful under federal regulations to dump any raw sewage into the territorial waters of the United states since that act took effect. Boats with USCG Type II treatment systems, which have been tested and certified by the USCG to comply with the strict requirements of onboard sewage treatment, may discharge treated effluent except in designated “No Discharge Zones.” So far as I know, the estuarine waters of Georgia have not been designated as NDZs. To emphasize, however, today it is unlawful under the regulations of the Federal Clean Water Act to discharge the contents of a holding tank or otherwise directly discharge sewage into the territorial waters of the US, which includes all of the waters of Georgia, and it has been unlawful for at least 40 years. This would seem to render the sanitation portion of HB201 unnecessary in the first place. If Georgia believe a boater is in violation, that boater can be cited under the terms of the Federal Clean Water Act of 1972.

      Continuing, however, any requirement for the mechanical removal of component parts of a boat’s plumbing system is a severe hardship and unreasonable imposition on boaters who travel offshore, discharge sewage lawfully beyond the US territorial three-mile limit, and subsequently enter Georgia estuarine Public Trust waters seeking safe overnight anchorage. In this circumstance, there is no way to document compliance with HB201, which can lead to misunderstandings and inappropriate accusations in encounters between transient boaters and Georgia law enforcement officials.

      The revised Georgia statue also imposes an unreasonable hardship on transient cruising boats in navigation on the Atlantic Intracoastal Waterway and tributary estuarine waters of the state. Many cruising boats take only two or three days to transit low-country estuarine waters. A variety of circumstances might result in a boat lawfully pumping out in a non-Georgia jurisdiction (South Carolina or Florida) prior to entering Georgia state waters. Assuming a boat with a 10-14 day capacity for the holding tank, there may be no way for an otherwise compliant boater to document compliance with the Georgia statute. A southbound transient boater who pumped out in South Carolina, subsequently transited the low country, and pumped out again in Florida, is in compliance with HB201, but is unable to meet the newly imposed documentation requirement to demonstrate that compliance.

      In light of the above, it seems the Georgia law is poorly though out and constitutes an undue burden to transient boaters engaged in lawful navigation on Georgia Public Trust estuarine waters.

      With regard to the new permitting process:

      The Official Code of Georgia must acknowledge that there is a difference between the rights of 1) a boat anchored while engaged in navigation, such as ours, and 2) a boat that is in what amounts to long-term storage upon the Public Trust waters of the state while attached to an anchor or mooring ball. Neither current Georgia Statute nor HB201 appear to me to recognize this important distinction. Boats engaged in navigation are not at risk of becoming derelict. It is boats in long term storage at anchor, or on a mooring ball, that are at risk of becoming derelict.

      It appears to me that Georgia statute does not define “Derelict” and does not provide objective criteria for 1) declaring a boat to be at risk of becoming derelict or 2) of actually being in a derelict condition. This is an oversight (flaw) of Georgia statute. I respectfully suggest a review of Florida Statute 327.4017. The Florida definition of “At Risk” boats is at this time well thought out and does not adversely affect boats lawfully being used in navigation.

      Local Law Enforcement Officers who patrol Georgia estuarine Public Trust waters on a regular basis are well aware of stored boats that are either derelict or at risk of becoming derelict. Absent specific superseding legislation, local nuisance laws can be used by local municipal authorities having jurisdiction to seize and remove derelict boats and to cite owners of at risk boats to require corrective action within a specified period of time in the same way that abandoned cars can be removed from public highways.

      Conclusions:

      In consideration of the jurisdiction of the Federal Clean Waters Act of 1972, the sanitation provisions of HB201 appear to be unnecessary in whole.

      I am completely opposed to permitting fees for transient boats lawfully engaged in navigation, of which anchoring is a lawful part. Additionally, I believe there are federal court precedents that identify such license imposts as unconstitutional. For the short term (no more than 60 days) for boats in navigation (boats in transit through the State of Georgia), there should be no anchoring fees (license imposts) and no permit requirements.

      I am not opposed to a permit requirement and substantial fees for boats that are long-term stored by anchoring upon Georgia Public Trust waters. It is these long term stored boats that create the risk of becoming derelict, and it should fall to the owners of long term stored boats to fund corrective action and cleanup. These storage fees could attach to any boat anchored in the same place on Public Trust waters for an extended period of time; ex: anchored in one place for 60 days or longer. I would also suggest, in any case, it is incumbent on local law enforcement officials and municipal authorities having jurisdiction to take interventional action before a boat in their jurisdiction becomes derelict in the first place.

      Very truly Yours,
      l/s: James B. Healy

      cc: Amy Thurman, GAMBA

      Peg and Jim Healy aboard Sanctuary, currently at Annapolis, MD.

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      1. Richard Edward Byrd -  June 18, 2019 - 5:38 pm

        very well said Jim, i might ad that there are only a few marinas along our beautiful coast the cater to transient boaters. i feel that this energy should be put to promoting these small businesses instead of discouraging the transients that enjoy passing through our coastal waters.

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    • Report from the Darien River and Darien, GA, off AICW Statute Mile 651


      Our thanks to Frederick Braman for this detailed trip up the Darien River and visit to Darien’s waterfront.

      Darien is a very pleasant side trip off the AICW, located 7 miles west of the AICW between Dolby and Altamaha Sounds at about MP 651. Turn into the Darien River at AICW Red 184, keeping it to port when turning into the river. Once past this point, markers are red-right-returning. The river is generally wide and deep. Pay particular attention to Red 12 and nearly adjacent Red 14, as their position in the river looks like they should be green, but they are RED. Keep between them and the nearby south bank. The rest of the trip is straight forward. Keep to the outside on turns and watch for floating vegetation. The outside of the last dock is usually open for transients, and can handle large boats, depending on room at the time. Call ahead at 912-437-6659 to check availability. Approach to the facing dock into the current is easy and if you call ahead, Dockmaster Wyn will catch your lines. If you like the lowlands, this is a beautiful and wild stretch. The town is delightful and within a few blocks of the floating docks. Plenty for cruisers to do do for a couple days. Because it can take some time to get there, depending on current direction, Darien is best as a visit destination and not a quick stopover along the AICW, at least for us slow boats. Darien rates are a dollar a foot including water and 30 amp electric, and I was told they will soon have free bicycles for use of overnight guests. Fuel is available at a nearby service station.
      Frederick Braman

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    • Report from the June 17 Hearing on Georgia’s HB 201, Brunswick, GA

      Cruisers Net wishes to thank all those whose efforts went into preparing for the meeting, those who sent letters and for all those cruisers who attended. Even without speaking, your physical presence spoke volumes! And a big thank you to Kelly Hill for this report.

      WOW! Everyone, just wow! What an amazing evening, cruisers speaking out!

      Thanks first of all to everyone who made it to the DNR meeting in Brunswick – I know the DNR was impressed by the fact the room was full. That means a lot.

      Thanks to all who commented, your voices were heard loud and clear.

      Thanks to the folks who were thinking ahead and livestreamed the meeting – I was so wrapped up in what was going on I didn’t even think of it. Had I done so, we could have announced that so that everyone here could have watched the meeting.

      As you can gather, it was a high energy meeting – a VERY high energy meeting. Not a single soul spoke in favor of the DNR’s plans. The upset with them was obvious. The biggest considerations were that laws already exist to deal with issues such as pumping out and derelict boats; that the fee/permitting setup was possibly not legal, couldn’t be enforced and was basically unworkable.

      Condemnation of the DNR’s plans was universal – from Kim Russo of the SSCA, from Boat US and the NMMA, even from GAMBA president Charlie Waller, and about 25 speakers from the boating and cruising community.

      The bill’s sponsor, House rep Don Hogan, spoke, and kudos to him for being brave enough to get up in front of that audience. It was clear that the officials heard what the audience was saying – that this was a bad bill, not properly prepared, with no data to back it up and without adequate predication. At least three people, if not more, stated that the bill should not be enforced, that it should be put aside until the 2020 legislative session, when it can be reviewed and the problems in it corrected.

      What will the DNR do? That’s hard to say. If they’re responsive to the public, this bill is dead in the water (sorry for the pun!). If not – we have a problem.

      So – we need to keep the pressure up. The DNR has received 70 letters to date, not counting the official responses from we of the Save Georgia’s Anchorages, the SSCA/MTOA/AGLCA coalition, Boat US and the NMMA.

      So if you aren’t one of the 70 who already wrote in – we need you to write in your opposition to HB201 today. Send your opposition to this bill to

      Kelly Hill

      Coastal Resources Division

      One Conservation Way

      Brunswick, GA 31520

      Kelly.Hill@dnr.ga.gov

      Once you’ve done that, copy at least three boating friends with this information and get them to do the same. If you want a prewritten letter to make it easy, you’ll find three of them in the FILES section of the Save Georgia Anchorages Facebook group – https://www.facebook.com/groups/SaveGeorgiasAnchorages/. See the links on the left hand side of the page to open FILES.

      Just do it, and then post here that you did, pour encourage les autres.

      Again everyone, thanks for your support. We’re winning this fight, but we’re not quite there yet. We’ve all still got work to do!

      Once again, huge thanks to Cruisers Net for their support of the boating community.

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      1. James Newsome -  June 18, 2019 - 6:18 pm

        Larry,
        Thanks to you and Cruiser's Net as well as all the folks who attended the meeting in Brunswick yesterday. This is an excellent start to minimizing the damage from the needless anchoring law, but there are a couple more important parts of the process. We need comments mailed or emailed to DNR during the open comment period which will end mid-July. You've included this information in your update. PLEASE EVERYONE DO THIS!!

        Next, we need folks to stay tuned as the Coastal Resource Division of DNR formulates rules to present to the full DNR board for approval sometimes in December. We may need to mobilize an email campaign to DNR prior to this date if the Coastal Resource Division doesn't back off on the adverse rule implementation.

        Finally, the boaters groups will be keenly aware of the next legislative term for GA which starts in mid January 2020. The permanent fix is for much of HB201 to be changed, and we will need to pressure legislators to rewrite this law to make it more specific to address the real problem of derelict vessels and to be friendlier to the responsible boating community.

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    • Onsite Update on Jekyll Creek Dredging, GA Problem Stretch AICW Statute Mile 683


      Our thanks to Captain Troup Nightingale for this valuable onsite, local knowledge report on depths in Jekyll Creek. His advice is well worth heeding. Jekyll Wharf is on the eastern shoulder of the Waterway north of the bridge and Jekyll Creek is home to CRUISERS NET SPONSOR, Jekyll Harbor Marina.

      The worst part of Jekyll Creek is within days of dredging completion. Jekyll Creek has been known as one of, if not the worst, sections of the ICW. On below mean low water, portions of the channel have been at around 3 feet. HOWEVER MAKE NOTE – only the EAST side (green side) of the magenta line has been dredged giving around 45 to 75 feet of channel at best. Local knowledge thinks it will fill back in rapidly. So, you must try to stay just EAST of the magenta line. Dredging started about a half mile north of Green 19 and ended near Jekyll Bridge. Headed South, you come around the Green 19 on your port and then get left of the magenta line towards Jekyll Wharf. The dredged channel is pretty close to the docks, not the Red marker there. Headed to Jekyll Wharf will position you very close to the mud on your left – surprisingly close! After Jekyll Wharf docks, the channel bends in a righthand arc – not straight red to red. Again, at low tide, you will be surprisingly close to the mud bank to port. The channel was suppose to be dug and then the sides sloped upwards. What we see is a very sharp difference between the dredged channel and the non-dredged area. So, you could be zooming along in 12 feet of water at low tide and all of a sudden be in 3 feet—both sides. My knowledge of Jekyll Creek has been for around 20 years; 10 of those as a past TowBoatUS Captain. Currently, I run Dolphin and ECO Tours on 45 foot tour boats from Jekyll Wharf where at low tide, we still have to bow in to the docks to have water for our engines while the dock sits in the mud.
      Captain Troup Nightingale

      Click Here To View the Cruisers Net AICW Problem Stretches Listing For Jekyll Creek

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    • WARNING: Shoaling Reported, Sapelo Entrance Channel, near GA AICW Statute Mile 633


      Our thanks to Genko Ganev for this report of shoaling at the eastern edge of Sapelo Sound, GA.

      We are on a catamaran with a 3.2 feet draft and entering the channel through the marked buoys and our chart plotter showing 21 feet of depth we ran aground and spent 30 minutes trying to get out. The shoal must have shifted south. 31 32.021 N and 081 08.692 W
      Genko Ganev

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    • Clean Water Act by Tom Hale

      Our thanks to Tom Hale for this explanation of the Clean Water Act and how it pertains to boats. The hearing to which he refers is the Georgia DNR hearing on wording of HB 201 being held today in Brunswick, GA.

      CLEAN WATER ACT

      For those who will attend the hearing today. I think it very important that the issue of boat sewage and NDZs is presented clearly and with one voice.

      As previously stated, I have been involved with the issues of boat waste discharge and marine sanitation systems with related issues since the 1970s. After being involved with the creation of several No Discharge Zone laws (and always being on the losing end!) I understand that there is a great deal of confusion which then leads to the dissemination of misinformation. NDZs are proposed and established because if the “icky” factor of sewage. When people hear that there is such a thing as “no discharge zones” they assume that that means that anyplace else is a “discharge zones”. And then citizens, Natural Resource types and elected officials get worried about all the boats dumping sewage into “our waters.“ Then with little fore though t or study they decide “We must eliminate this sewage and create a law making it illegal to dump sewage in our waters.” The Georgia law reflects this confusion. It is already illegal to dump raw sewage into the waters of GA or any other territorial waters of the USA. (https://www.epa.gov/vessels-marinas-and-ports/vessel-sewage-frequently-asked-questions)

      There is further confusion because the law also states that each vessel must be equipped with a marine sanitation device (MSD) . The word “device” may, to some people, imply that there has to be some sort of mechanical “thing.” Under the law, a sewage holding tank is one such device. Every boat out there today has a marine sanitation device, that being a holding tank (A sewage holding thank is by definition a Type III marine sanitation device.). Every boat out there has the equipment required to be in compliance with the clean water act.

      The clean vessel act (https://wsfrprograms.fws.gov/Subpages/GrantPrograms/CVA/CVA.htm) is a program to make funding available for the installation of shore side facilities to handle the waste from boats. In my personal cruising experience Maryland, Rhode Island, Vermont, New York and Massachusetts have done an exemplary job of encouraging commercial facilities to build pump out stations and a number of cities and towns operate mobile pump out boats.

      NDZs are created on a state level. To declare a body of water to be an NDZ the state must be able to prove that there are adequate facilities in place to handle the needs of the boating community. A reminder, NDZs only apply to boats which have an onboard treatment system (And, by the way, dumping a bunch of chemicals into your holding tank to kill bacteria does NOT meet the requirements of a sewage treatment system.) Georgia DNR has to understand that declaring all the waters of the state to be an NDZ is unnecessary due to existing federal law. There is no need to duplicate it with a state law. If there are concerns, GA DNR can and should enforce the federal laws already on the books.

      The following is from an EPA website on the Clean Water Act.

      • Section 312 of the Clean Water Act requires the use of operable, U.S. Coast Guard-certified marine sanitation devices (MSDs) onboard vessels that are equipped with installed toilets and operating on U.S. navigable waters.
      • Untreated sewage discharges are prohibited within three miles from shore.
      • In order to discharge within three miles, sewage must be treated using a U.S. Coast Guard-approved Type I or Type II MSD. Alternatively, sewage may be stored onboard in a holding tank (Type III MSD).
      • Treated and untreated sewage discharges are prohibited in:
          • Freshwater lakes, reservoirs and other freshwater impoundments whole inlets or outlets are such as to prevent the ingress or egress by vessel traffic.
          • Rivers not capable of navigation by interstate vessel traffic.
          • No-discharge zones (NDZs) (as applicable).
          • In these areas, sewage effluent generally must be retained onboard in a holding tank (Type III MSD). Operators of vessels equipped with flow-through MSDs (Type I or Type II) must secure the device to prevent overboard discharge.
          • Visit the No-Discharge Zones (NDZs) by State webpage for more information on the location and applicability of NDZs.

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