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    • Trawler Skipper Requesting Navigation Route, Naples to Key West

      Skipper Crenshaw is seeking advice on the run from Naples to Key West. If you have experience in these waters, let us hear from you.

      We hope to do our first trip from Naples , Florida to Key West. We will depart from Naples at end of December. We are not comfortable too far out in gulf and we do not mind making in two day trip with one overnite preferably in marina. We have 42 trawler with 4 foot draft . We cannot seem to select best track.
      Can you help with some suggestion tracks/paths down west coast side?
      Thanks
      Bob Crenshaw
      Sea Path Marina
      Wrightsville Beach, NC

      Comments from Cruisers (9)

      1. Jay Light -  October 10, 2015 - 10:11 am

        We sail our 36-ft sailboat from Fort Myers Beach to Key West regularly, but do it as one twenty-two hour passage at 5.5 kt. It’s 28 miles longer than from Naples – obviously an over-nighter for us.

        We have also gone to Marco and left at 4 am and arrived before dark the same day, sailing straight line. It does take you offshore a bit.

        You can get from Marco to Marathon all in daylight. You can probably do it from Naples, too, if you can go eight kts. I have a good set of waypoints I’ll send you if you like. You need to know where you are going through the Moser Channel 7-mile bridge to Marathon. One big drawback of this passage in December is that this section of Florida Bay from Cape Romano to Marathon is wall-to-wall stone crab traps. It’s like going through a thirty mile-slalom course unless you’re not concerned with snagging a trap.
        It’s a good day’s run from Marathon to Key West, either on the inside if your draft allows it, or on the Hawk Channel between the Keys and the barrier reef.

        Jay Light
        S/V ALBORADA
        Ft. Myers Beach

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      2. Maris Eshleman -  October 9, 2015 - 10:54 pm

        Bob,

        The trip from Naples to the Keys is very simple. We did it last year in our 45′ sailboat with a 5′ draft. We did an overnight from Marathon to Naples a distance of less than 100 nm and then from Charlotte Harbor back to Key West which is less than 150 nm. The distance from Naples to Key West isn’t much different than to Marathon. Assuming you run around 10 kts it is an easy day trip. The water once you get out of Gordon Pass in Naples is mostly 10-30′ deep (some deeper) until you get to Key West where there are multiple shoals and islets so you will need to plan which channel you need to take to were you’re going at Key West. My suggestion is to pick a good weather day and do the trip in a day unless you want to do some other sight seeing along the way. At 4′ you shouldn’t have any issues as long as you watch your charts. Also, the waters around south Florida and the Keys are full of crab and lobster pots along with fish traps so you will need to keep a good watch. We did overnights and had no problems.

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      3. john kremski -  October 9, 2015 - 4:23 pm

        Avoid the Marinas!! This is the prettiest part of Florida, and should be ANCHORED OUT to enjoy.

        You can go on the inside from Naples to Marco, then outside around Johnson Shoals (east of Marco Island is a bit skinny water, but the shrimpers and crab boats do it – I did it with 3′ draft and got out of the channel in the fog and ran aground). After Johnson Shoals, head back east into the ten thousand islands and spend as many days anchored in this beautiful area as your schedule allows – there are dozens of spots just inside the mangrove islands. You can run south along the park boundary markers in good depth, and never be too far from a safe anchorage. After you get to the Little Shark River, I always head directly to the keys, via the yacht channel, and then run the north side to the keys to Key West.. There is a brief interval just before arrival in Key West Northwest Channel where you have to go in unprotected waters, so wait for calm or some direction other than North wind for that.

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      4. John Scott -  October 9, 2015 - 2:39 pm

        Ben, made that trip last January. We went from Marco Island to Little Shark River, overnight anchorage, then down to 7 mile bridge and turned west for Key West. Shark River to Key West took about 10 hours. We cruised at 7-8 knts. Winds normally are easterly and we left Shark River at first light to take advantage of the light winds. By the time we turned west the winds had picked up considerable but then they were a following sea, 3-5 ft. And 10-11 secs apart so ride was ok. We were prepared to spend several nights at Shark River if winds dictated. Pick a good 2 day weather window.

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      5. Ted Guy -  October 9, 2015 - 2:00 pm

        The last time I cruised Florida Bay was late August 1980, Marathon to Naples, but then the chief hazard other than weather was the lobster or crab traps, some with buoys just under the surface. Thousands of them! You may want to add cutter blades to your shafts.

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      6. Kim -  October 8, 2015 - 11:41 am

        We always do it as a straight shot overnight. It is just under 100 nautical miles Naples pier to Key West. I use 5 knots for planning but unless weather is ugly do about 6.5 so 15-20 hours from Naples. Weather matters. Pick a cold front and ride south BEHIND it a day or 2. Typically we leave Ft Myers at noon; off Naples at 5P and NW Channel next morning, arrive Key west noon. So no ‘real’ navigating in dark. Set the gps/autopilot on the NW Channel bell buoy, Current runs west to east there so a little westing early is useful. The shrimp boats, if any, are lit up like downtown and there is nothing else out there (actually there are a couple of air force relay towers but you won’t likely even see them- google air force relay towers to find exact coordinates). Pay attention to the breakwater at the entrance to the NW Channel (don’t do this at night unless you have a good chart plotter). You can jump along the coast but it is longer as the coast moves significantly East south of Cape Romano. Marco isn’t far enough from Naples to help the cause; Goodland is better but you will need to worry about tide levels coming out by Coon Key. (Running the inside from Marco to Goodland is great but watch tides- 4′ draft is the upper end of what I’d be comfortable with especially in December ) If you anchor out there are good spots at Panther and Indian. Everglades City is nice but again 4′ is the upper limit of my comfort zone and you will lose time going up and down the river. Most folks I know push on to Little Shark, anchor out, and then jump to Marathon. Good Luck. Florida Bay can be mirror calm or a mess.

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      7. Curtis Hoff -  October 8, 2015 - 5:11 am

        Ben:
        You will definitely have to watch the water depth on the west side of the keys but you should be ok. I have done the “inside” of the keys a couple of times on my Fleming 55 with a 5′ draft. We try to time the shallow areas at high tide but still “touched” bottom a couple of times (I love a big keel!). It was a bit tight for us but you’ll have another foot of comfort so you should be fine. Just go slow and feel your way when it gets shallow – plus make sure your depth sounder is accurately calibrated.
        Definitely wait for a very good weather day – not just one that looks ok or good enough.
        A couple of points to consider:
        The open water distance to either Marathon or Key West is not very different – they are very much open water. Depending on your speed the time difference direct to Key West is only around an hour or so longer.
        Many days the fast ferry runs to Key West so there is some comfort knowing at least one boat will be in the vicinity for part of the travel if you go direct to Key West.
        If you go to Marathon definitely make a reservation/late arrival arrangements ahead of time. Sometimes space can be limited and they could be gone when you arrive – dock space at the city facility is very limited however the mooring field is amazing in size. I believe the mooring field doesn’t take reservations but we have been able to get reservations on their dock. There are other facilities there but we have only stayed on the dock at the city marina.
        Ask around to see if you can find a “buddy” boat to travel along with – may be difficult to find but always nice if you can.
        Key West is a great location and you will definitely enjoy it. We’re spending the month of March there again this year and will travel the same route from Naples area straight to Key West.
        Don’t hesitate to call or email if you have any questions.
        Regards,
        Curtis

        Reply to Curtis
      8. Winston Fowler -  October 8, 2015 - 5:08 am

        Get as far south as possible, maybe the Rod and Gun Club at Everglades City, or Calusa Island Marina at Goodland, but certainly no further north than Marco Island.
        Then head for middle of the keys, say Marathon area . Leave at daybreak although I am not sure of your speed. We’ve done the Marco to Key West, but we can cruise at 15 knots and that makes a big difference.
        Watch your wind forecast. You will get some break from easterly winds if you go down through Florida Bay and close in to Cape Sable. All this being said, it has been a few years since I have made the trip. Lets see what really comes in from some folks who may have made the trip more recently.
        Winston Fowler

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        • Chris -  October 9, 2015 - 3:54 pm

          I had a sailboat that made around 5 knots and drew 5.5 feet. I started out in Fort Myers Beach, and day tripped down the west coast to Everglades City. I had no difficulty in finding safe harbors that would accommodate my draft, but beyond Everglades City, there were no other anchorages that were deep enough.

          I and stayed at the Rod and Gun club, and spent a day exploring the town. Watch the overhead power cable. Locals indicated that it was lower than 65 feet, and they took great pleasure in seeing sailboaters come to grief there. Not sure if their info was correct, but just be aware.

          Since there were no deep harbors between Everglades City and Key West, I planned on making an overnight trip to Key West. I staged just outside of the river, and departed at 3:30 PM. Got into Key West at 10 AM. Crab pots weren’t a huge problem.

          Good luck with the trip.

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    • Herl Report: Osprey Marina, AICW Statute Mile 373


      Osprey MarinaOsprey Marina lies at the southern foot of AICW section known officially as the Pine Island Cut (a. k. a. “the Rock Pile”), just as the Waterway sweeps south into beautiful Waccamaw River. Osprey Marina is one of the finest marinas you will ever discover, and these good folks are A SALTY SOUTHEAST CRUISERS’ NET SPONSOR!

       

      Osprey Marina
      Arrived for fuel and to get tucked in for the weekend or until the circulation in the Atlantic has cleared the area. Topped off the tanks and while just holding the nozzle was talking to Miles. We both have the gout word in common. Once we were fueled and docked Miles said he would drive us to the clinic so I could get some medication. Thank You, Thank You Miles. I think I’m on the mend.
      As always Osprey has been great taking care of us.
      Day three and the rain is still falling in large quantities. So to pass the morning we gather for free coffee and snacks and conversation. Watching the bad weather shifting south, not good for anyone traveling south. I think we will stay a while longer.
      10/5/15 Monday. It is Monday and all the water is high, so anyone between Southport area and Charleston area, if you are in a spot you can stay, stay where you are it is not safe on the ICW with all the trash floating in the water. Be safe. We are talking to others in the Marina and we are all staying put for now.
      Phil and Sandy Herl

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    • Herl Report: Lockwoods Folly, AICW Mile 321 and Myrtle Beach Yacht Club, Mile 346


      Myrtle Beach Yacht Club is unmatched for its Lowcountry charm and gracious hospitality.

      The intersection of the ICW and Lockwoods Folly has been a Problem Stretch for years and requires almost annual dredging. Mid to high tide is recommended for passage. For a recent report on Lockwoods Folly, see /?p=150841. A SALTY SOUTHEAST CRUISERS’ NET SPONSOR! Myrtle Beach Yacht Club on Coquina Harbor has been a great stopping place and a friend to cruisers for years. The entrance to Coquina Harbor lies on the north side of the Waterway opposite Marker #13.

      North Myrtle Beach

      Another good run and luck is still with us. As we approached Lockwoods Folly area, notorious for shoaling, there was a Coast Guard boat at the spot getting ready to move the buoys. When we came through they contacted us and several others to talk everyone through and we had not a problem.
      As usual at North Myrtle Beach Yacht Club we were treated well. Again we could not do anything because of my foot. Just one night. We were here in June and had a great time.

      Phil and Sandy Herl

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    • Pickin’ by the River, October 17, Beaufort, SC, AICW Statute Mile 536.5

      The Downtown Marina Of Beaufort, SC, 1006 Bay Street Beaufort, SC 29902 (843) 524-4422 or Marker #239 on ICWbeaufortscchart

      Good music and good fun! Y’all come! Beaufort is home to SALTY SOUTHEAST CRUISERS’ NET SPONSOR, Downtown Marina of Beaufort, within easy walking distance of the Waterfront Park.

      Please come and join us at Pickin’ by the River on October 17 from noon till 5 at Downtown Beaufort SC Henry C Chambers beautiful Waterfront Park. All acoustic bluegrass, country and folk music. Stage show and open jams throughout the Park. Please no amplifiers, alcohol or drums. Good family fun. For more info you can call (843)379-9084

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    • More Sources of Information on Water Levels

      Our thanks to Skipper Schick whose links below augment Bob Sherer’s recent article on water levels and their effect on navigation in the ICW. See /?p=151098.

      This is good information [Sherer’s article]. Two easy ways to see what’s available:

      (1) http://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/stations.html?type=Water+Levels which nicely shows MHW levels (which seems to have been cropped out of the images in the original post)

      and

      (2) http://tidesonline.noaa.gov/geographic.html and use their graphic selection tool. This site (depending on location chosen) gives additional information such as wind direction and speed.

      Larry Schick

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    • Robert Sherer on Water Levels

      Robert Sherer is author of 2015 ICW Cruising Guide: A guide to navigating the Atlantic Intracoastal Waterway. See /?p=150181. SSECN is grateful for Captain Sherer’s willingness to share his knowledge and experience with our readers.

      Heading down the ICW, everyone pays close attention to the tides when navigating through the shallow spots but few pay attention to the effects of wind on the level of the water. Most everyone knows that an east wind will raise water and perhaps cause flooding and a west wind will push water out and make the shallow spots even more difficult. Who hasn’t looked at a posting on depth and then patted themselves on the back when they found deeper water (what a great navigator I am…) or been surprised when the opposite happened (the poster obviously was out to lunch…)

      Have you ever wondered the basis for NOAA’s warnings on coastal flooding? Well, NOAA has particular buoys outfitted with water level monitors that give a reading of water height vs the predicted height from tide tables. If you know how to access the data, you too can benefit. For example, you may have 3 extra feet of depth in passing through the shallows south of Fernandina (or three feet less!) You have to know which buoys have the data you want and then how to access it, it’s not a one click operation. I’ve compiled a list of buoys reporting water heights that would be useful for negotiating the ICW but first an example. We were in Hampton, VA when Joaquin came through off shore and produced 25 to 35 kt east winds for two days which you would expect to push water levels higher than normal. We were on floating docks so we had some concern about just how high the surge would be so we watched a NOAA water level buoy site for that information. Here’s a typical plot:
      hamptonwaterlevels
      The line of interest is the purple plot showing the delta between the predicted tide height (blue line) and the actual water height (red line). You can see that on 10/4/2015 the water was 3.5 ft higher than predicted by the tide tables!

      This information is available all along the ICW from selected weather buoys and can be helpful when passing through areas where you really need to know the real depth accurately. That purple line above can be minus too in a strong west wind! One more example:
      capemaycanal
      I have a 55.3 ft mast and I like to use the Cape May canal to reach Delaware Bay. I need to know the actual water height before going through since from past experience in normal weather the height boards read 58 ft at 0.0 predicted tide. In my fall of 2015 trip down, we had a strong east wind and the height board only read 56.5 ft at low tide! The low tide can actually be 3 ft higher than the tide tables! Now 56.5 ft is enough for my 55.3 ft mast but may not be enough for others. So here’s the list of stations I find useful with links:

      Cape May Canal
      Hampton
      Charleston
      Savannah
      Fernandina Beach

      You can click on “Show Data Listing” for the numbers in addition to the plots. I’ve noticed that when accessed on my iPad I get all three plots but when looked at on my laptop I only get the red and blue lines but I always use my iPad anyway. When planning your next passage, it never hurts to check on the predicted tide height vs actual, it only takes a minute and it could save you a lot of grief.

      Robert Sherer (aka Bob423)
      Author of “2015 ICW Cruising Guide” available on Amazon.com
      You can follow our adventures down the ICW at fleetwing.blogspot.com

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    • Herl Report: Southport Marina, Southport, NC, AICW Statute Mile 309.5


      Southport
      Only spent one night, they had a fishing thing going on for this weekend and they were going to be full up.
      Would have liked to walked to Fishy Fishy (less than a mile) but at this time my foot is giving me fits.

      We hear that after we left they had a bad storm in the area and with the tides being high to begin with because of the circulation in the Atlantic, the water level came up enough to cause Fishy Fishy to move a lot of their stuff out. Not much else to report.
      Phil and Sandy Herl

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    • 24 Hour Mooring Permitted in Virgina Dismal Swamp Locks and Canal


      Good News: A phone call to Cheaspeake City clears up the situation raised by Skipper McLeran regarding overnight stays in the Virginia Waterway locks and canal. The “no overnight mooring policy” has been rescinded and you may, as before, stay tied up for 24 hours – longer if foul weather demands. Deep Creek Lock interrupts the Alternate AICW Great Dismal Swamp Canal Route at Statute Mile 10.6.

      We entered the Dismal Swamp Canal Wednesday afternoon at the 1530 locking in order to hide from forecast high winds (and now hurricane Joaquin). When we inquired of Robert about the availability of Elizabeth’s Dock he told us that the dock was available, but that recently (didn’t say when) the Army Corps had a problem with a boater who was living on his boat in the canal and working in the area, tried to persuade him to leave, and when that didn’t work contacted Chesapeake City officials who somehow convinced him (and his boat) to depart the canal. Then the _city_ instituted a “no overnight mooring” policy and posted signs to that affect at the locks and docks; interestingly, there are no pertinent signs anywhere at Elizabeth’s Dock.
      We moored to Elizabeth’s Dock anyway, concluding that with the approaching iminent storms this was the best place to hide and that we would deal with the city if asked to leave.
      In our dozen or so passages through the canal we have never encountered this policy, and on several occasions have moored for several nights at Elizabeth’s Dock with other boats while waiting for nor’easters to pass. More commonly, we transit the canal in one day and stop at the “shopping dock” to resupply while waiting for the next lock through.
      This new policy is going to have a big impact on the southerly migration which will start soon, if boats are truly prohibited from mooring at the docks and locks in the canal.
      Perhaps you have some contacts at the Army Corps and the Chesapeake City who would clarify the situation and listen to some reason about the value of allowing boats to moor overnight in the canal.
      I’m sending this to both Waterway Guide and to Salty Southeast Cruisers’ Net.
      Bob McLeran

      For more on this story, go Waterway Guide’s report:
      http://www.waterwayguide.com/latest-news/news/5722/deep-creek-lock-and-elizabeths-dock-update

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    • Grounding at AICW/Matanzas Inlet Intersection Problem Stretch, AICW Statute Mile 792.5


      This AICW Problem Stretch has always been one of the shallowest sections of the Waterway in Eastern Florida. Earlier descriptions of the three newest markers, as well as Skipper Justin’s experience, would indicate that shoaling is beginning to reappear. BE SURE to observe any new aids to navigation and, as always on perennial AICW Problem Stretches, be READY for new shoaling and even newer markers as you pass through. Our thanks to Justin for sharing his experience.

      I ran aground hard going north through this passage with current behind me. I kept to the east of the new green buoys because it seemed they were way to close to the western bit of land. I thought they shifted to be a “port” marker (red right returning) because of the meet up with the two channels..My navigation chart was a complete fail to show depth. This place is tricky. I believe I should have kept the green buoys to my starboard, going north. A red marker would’ve helped too.
      Justin

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      1. FRank Morris -  October 4, 2015 - 3:16 pm

        I’ve done that section a few times; you almost have to stay close enough to the west bank to touch it with an extended boathook (perhaps not “quite” that closely, but it sure seems like it).
        Frank Morris

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      2. Bob McLeran -  October 2, 2015 - 1:54 pm

        This stretch has ALWAYS required proper adherence to the temporary buoys and is not a problem as long as they are honored no matter how close one thinks they’re putting you to the shore.

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      3. Dave mcBride -  October 1, 2015 - 7:25 am

        It appears from his statement that skipper Justin went on the wrong side of the greens. Went through here yesterday southbound had no more problems or less depth than ever. Stay in the channel and you’ll stay off the bottom.

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    • Herl Report: Dockside Marina, Wrightsville Beach, NC, AICW Statute Mile 280

      Dockside Marina guards the AICW’s northwesterly banks, west of Motts Channel’s westerly entrance. Our thanks to Skipper Herl for his continued reporting as he and Sandy travel south.

      Wrightsville Beach
      Arrived about 6:15, had a good run today, the wind has calmed down and we are in the skinny protected area. We still had lots of rain but that is nothing as long as we don’t get a lot of wind. We stopped at Dockside Marina for the night, they have been great even though we came in in a downpour. Stopped in and had dinner after we got all set up and everything was good. The food, the service, and the dock help. Not a word of complaint, just did what we had to do to get tied up and electrified. I would stop here again any time.
      We did not take any time to explore the area, we are trying to stay ahead of the circulation out in the Atlantic.
      Phil and Sandy Herl

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    • Gonna be a Tight Squeeze! I-95, Smithfield, NC

      Our thanks to Dick Mills for this on-site report. It looks like the driver of the rig is going to need lots of North Carolina fatback grease to get this vessel any further north! Smithfield is home of the famous Carolina Pottery. Please, Skipper Mills, give us a followup!

      Happening right now on I95 in Smithfield, NC. The boat is not damaged, so the driver must have stopped. The bow pulpit is about 1 foot higher than the bridge. The driver was letting the air out of the tires as I watched.
      Dick Mills

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    • Small Survey Vessels Arrive in the Eastern Gulf

      Since this report does not specify a homeport or area of activity for the new survey boat delivered to the eastern Gulf of Mexico, it will be up to you to send us reports of sightings along the coast. Obviously, No Wake is the order in the vicinity of these small boats. Please do click the link connection below for very interesting graphics related to these surveys.

      New small survey boats for hard working navigation response teams

      To a marine pilot looking forward to a long-awaited nautical chart update, a white NOAA survey ship “mowing the lawn” of the approaches to a port is a gorgeous site. The ship slowly moving back and forth, collecting hydrographic data from the ocean floor, is easily recognizable.

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      This new survey boat was recently delivered to the navigation response team collecting data in northern California.

      Less well known are Coast Survey’s smaller survey vessels, operated by navigation response teams (NRTs) situated strategically along the U.S. coasts. These vessels are hard worked by two- or three-member teams of physical scientists and technicians who must know everything about the vessel, the specialized survey equipment, and the science of collecting and processing data. On top of all that, they must be expert sailors.

      This new survey boat was recently delivered to the navigation response team collecting data in northern California.

      Recognizing the value that these teams and vessels bring to our survey and charting responsibilities – not to mention their essential work in locating underwater debris after hurricanes – NOAA is “recapitalizing” the NRT fleet, building new small boats specifically designed for hydrographic surveying. The first two boats, built by Lake Assault Boats of Superior, Wisconsin, were delivered last week to navigation response teams surveying ports in California and the eastern Gulf of Mexico.

      CLICK HERE for more.

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    • Very Nice Folks at Top Rack Marina, Virginia Cut, AICW Statute Mile 8.8


      Our thanks to Skipper Bell for this report and follow up. Top Rack Marina is just north of the Steel Bridge in the Virginia Cut at Mile 8.8

      Diesel $1.92.9 Includes tax. Free pump out with fuel. These guys bend over backwards for you. Nice deli restaurant, brand new restrooms and great floating docks. Low and high speed diesel fuel pumps. We stopped because the Great Lock was shut down for three hours due to high tides. So glad we did. Very nice folks.
      Dave Bell

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      Top Rack has Diesel for $1.93 per gallon. Free Pump Out. Plus. If you eat dinner in the Amber Lantern restaurant that is at the marina, you can stay the night at no charge including power. Food is good too. Very nice folks. They will do anything to make your day on the water more enjoyable. New floating docks as well. We will return.
      David Bell

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      1. Brian McKown -  September 28, 2015 - 9:08 am

        Thank you for the kind words Mr. Bell. We appreciate you stopping and hope you will return in the spring.

        Brian McKown
        Marina Manager
        Top Rack Marina

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    • Herl Report: Oriental Marina & Inn, Oriental Harbor Marina, Oriental, NC, AICW Statute Mile 181


      The Herl’s experience with these two marinas certainly speaks well for the attitude that Oriental has for transients. The marinas are competitors, but they put the needs of the traveler up front. Oriental Harbor Marina is on the northwestern shore of Oriental Harbor’s entrance off the Neuse River and Oriental Marina, A SALTY SOUTHEAST CRUISERS’ NET SPONSOR, is on the eastern banks of Oriental’s inner harbor. Nautical Wheelers is also A SALTY SOUTHEAST CRUISER’ NET SPONSOR!

      Oriental Marina
      Originally called Oriental for a slip reservation, they said they were full and referred us to Oriental Harbor marina. Oriental transferred use and we received our slip reservation.
      We arrived at 3:15 and they were ready for us. Gave the directions to our slip and had a dock hand ready to help dock.
      Once we were docked and hooked up we walked to the office to check in. what a walk, It was at least a half a mile walk. For those how may be interested, there are restaurants and pubs on the way as well as a ships store with a few groceries. 3 restaurants, 3 pubs, and an ice cream shop plus the marina Tiki bar.
      Phil and Sandy Herl

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    • Detailed Description of Upstream Waccamaw Trip to Conway, SC, off the AICW


      Skipper Winter does indeed complement an earlier posting by Jim and Peg Healy, /?p=138583. Our thanks to John and Sue for this detailed narrative of their recent trip upriver to Conway. The upper portion of the Waccamaw River departs the Waterway at statute mile 375.

      To hopefully complement Sanctuary’s posting, we just finished going to Conway and made the following notes. One can take these and mark the Healy’s maps, and add milage to them. the distances are not off more than a tenth at each junction: From ICW MM 375 just south of ICW marker `27A’:
      This is the last posting on any web sites that I have seen with any detail. We traveled this river this week and it is still a beautiful trip and well worth the extra time. It is even more beautiful than the lower Waccamaw. First, the Corps of Engineers have removed all markers above `R4’, and as such, there are a few spots that are confusing as to where to turn. Lastly, different postings on various web states the distance to downtown Conway anywhere from 12 to 16 miles without stating whether they are nautical or statute miles. Reset your odometer to `0’ for the following information. We use statute miles. From `G1’, the entrance marker, it is 14.3 miles to the last bridge (you do not want to go under that in a larger boat) and about 14 miles to the marina entrance basin. Just as Sanctuary recommends, go to the bridge to dock since it is an easy walk to town. The two floating docks are in decent shape, but the cleats are still a little loose, but there is no traffic or winds to bother you and if there was a huge blow, there are alternatives to tie up soundly ‘“ easy. The electric is still there but still no water. Call the marina for space (room for a 60′ boat at each dock, maybe longer). Also, repeating, when going into a curve, stay to the outside where the water is deeper. We entered at dead low tide (on purpose) so as to make better notes. The NOAA charts that end just above `R4’ are accurate. We saw 11-13′ at `G1’ and then before the first curve, 7.9′. After the first curve, it deepened to 9.0′ Just prior to the second curve, briefly 5.9′, but we were too much inside on the curve. Coming back down, we had over 7.5′. Hug `R2’. First curve after `R2’ was 8.3′. From here you will see depths well over 20′ in places. Just prior to `G3’, which is 1.9 miles in, 6.5′ and quickly deepens to 30’. MM 2.1 you’ll see many stumps on the RDB, but 8.1 feet as charted. MM 3.0 (`R4’) stay left at these intersections. MM 4.3, there are power lines that we do not know the height, but any motor boat will have no problems, but sailboats may (this statement applies to all power lines mentioned). They all appear to be well over 45′, but who knows. MM 4.7 at a private dock, make a left turn (it’s not obvious). MM 5.2 shallows to 8.6′ briefly. At MM 5.9, make a sharp left. MM 6.1, there are some nice homes to see, watch your wake. MM 6.9, favor RDB (starboard) for deeper water (7.5′, otherwise 6.0′). MM 7.6 some more homes. MM 9.4 is interesting. There is an upside down arrow sign that has the word `only’ upside down on it. Do not think this sign is upside down, it’s not. Whoever put it up, obviously did not have the correct sign. Make a sharp left here (yes, to port). If you go right, you hit bottom (we know ‘“ LOL). MM 10.0, another left turn where there is yet another upside down `only’ sign. MM 10.4-11.0, shallows to 7.4′ (this is where the river gets a little wider, so it makes sense the water would be shallower). MM 11.1 favor RDB where you get over 11′. Center is as low as 5.2’. MM 11.6, turn left. MM 12.1 is 6.6′ and there might be a very interesting river boat moored there. MM12.3, turn left at homes and docks. MM 13.2, overhead power lines. As you get to a high bridge, you are entering Conway. From here on in, it is no wake. You will see to your left the entrance to the marina basin around MM 13.9. Go past this to the floating docks on your left. They are obvious, just before the bridge. Call the marina for docking, but if no answer, don’t panic. If you are there just for a few hours, docking is free. The river walk is beautiful, and many great places to eat and shop. See the college (Coastal Carolina) ‘“ it is also very nice. One could easily stay here for a few days, so if the weather is not so good, and you have stopped at Georgetown enough, then this is the place for you. It takes about 2.5 hours (max) to do the river one way on a trawler.
      Sue and John Winter on Just Relax (MTOA, Golden Loopers, AIWA members)

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    • Clarification Sought on Redfish Pass, off Pine Island Sound/GICW, between Captiva and North Captiva Islands


      Redfish Channel, which leads cruisers from the Western Florida ICW’s run through Pine Island Sound, and the entrance channel to South Seas Island Resort Marina have both been completely altered within the last year or so. Several earlier postings here on the Cruisers’ Net have noted this change. Skipper Chris is requesting local knowledge.

      I have been through this pass 3 times and I am still confused by the way it is marked. Red Right Return from the Gulf brings you through some very shallow waters. Check your GPS chartplotter coming in’¦.quite unnerving! Thankful I draw only a couple feet. Any insight would be helpful! Only one red marker and it appears to be in the middle of a shoal!
      Chris

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      1. Kim -  September 26, 2015 - 8:16 pm

        Lots of water- as in 10-30′ 2 tricks –
        1) marks are certainly not as charted in the chartlet. they have been moved to keep pace with the shoaling. See: http://media.southseas.com/d/southsea/media/Marina/SSIR_Channel_Map_FINAL.pdf

        2) treat the new green mark ‘1’ as an outer rendezvous to get lined up. Especially if you are coming from the south – you can’t just go to the the outer red and head in. stay offshore more; go to green ‘1’ then turn into the pass.

        Last up there 2 weeks ago.

        Kim

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    • Praise for Marineland Marina, AICW Statute Mile 796


       The Town of Marineland has opened its ports with a brand new marina facility creating a destination for boaters on the Intracoastal Waterway between Daytona Beach and St. Augustine, FL.

      We continue to hear only good words for SALTY SOUTHEAST CRUISERS’ NET SPONSOR, Marineland Marina which lies south ‘“ southeast of AICW marker #87, along the Waterway’s eastern shore.

      One of the BEST little gems on the ICW! Eric and Chris do their best to help you with any of your needs..very clean’¦the beach right across A1A’¦Plenty of water..definitely would go back! Thank you!
      Payrick n Jae Kellogg

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      1. John Pholeric -  September 27, 2015 - 1:28 pm

        I agree this is a wonderful marina. The staff was helpful and friendly. Marineland is definetly worth a visit, and the beach is right across the road. Not much shopping, but can’t have everything. A cab will get you to shopping.

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    • BoatUS News: Ice and Freeze Coverage?

      Boat U.S.Icing and freezing conditions are often overlooked here in the Southeast, but Virginia and North Carolina can attest to the real possibility of such occurrence in an extremely cold winter, as predicted for 2015-16 by some weather forecasters. BoatUS remains the premiere advocate for boater safety on all waters and SSECN is proud to have BoatUS as a SPONSOR!

      NEWS From BoatUS
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      880 S. Pickett St., Alexandria, VA 22304

      FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
      Press Contact: D. Scott Croft, 703-461-2864, SCroft@BoatUS.com

      Boaters in northern states may want to look at adding freeze coverage to their boat insurance policies, especially if the boat is stored inside and there is no generator to back up winter power.

      Boaters in northern states may want to look at adding freeze coverage to their boat insurance policies, especially if the boat is stored inside and there is no generator to back up winter power.

      Boaters: Should You Add Ice and Freeze Coverage to Your Boat Policy Now?

      Inexpensive Option Good for DIYers, Winter Trailerboaters

      ALEXANDRIA, Va., September 24, 2015 — Many boat owners think they don’t have to worry about freeze damage if they live in temperate states or if they keep their boat in an indoor, heated storage area in Northern climates. But they may want to rethink that. Every year, the Boat Owners Association of The United States (BoatUS) Marine Insurance Program gets freeze damage insurance claims for boats in Southern states hit by a hard freeze, and claims for boats stored indoor in Northern states where storms took out the electrical power ‘“ which usually means no heat. So the first rule of winter storage for any boat is to winterize properly.

      Even then, small winterizing mistakes like not draining all of the areas of the engine raw water system can easily destroy an engine. For that reason, BoatUS says ice and freeze coverage may also be a smart option for do-it-yourselfers who want peace of mind, or for trailer boaters who store their boat in a heated garage or travel between warm and cold states.

      Typically offered as a policy `rider’ to boats stored in northern climates, it’s inexpensive ‘“BoatUS offers the add-on coverage for as low as $20. However, there is a deadline to purchase this coverage as most insurers don’t offer it once temperatures get cold, usually the end of October.

      BoatUS says the good news is that boats in warmer, temperate states often have this feature added to their policy automatically, but boaters should check with their insurer.

      For more information on boat insurance or ice and freeze coverage, go to www.BoatUS.com/insurance or call 800-283-2883.

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    • Cape Coral Cruises Club Visits Pink Shell Beach Resort and Marina, Matanzas Pass, Gulf Coast


      Pink Shell Beach Resort and Marina

      This fine group of boaters, made up of overnight cruisers from the Cape Coral area, is a cruising club worth following as they visit marinas along the West Coast. Pink Shell Beach Resort and Marina, A SALTY SOUTHEAST CRUISERS’ NET SPONSOR!, overlooks the westerly banks of the Mantanzas Pass channel, west of marker #13.

      CAPE CORAL CRUISE CLUB CRUISES TO PINK SHELL MARINA
      By John Queen, Vice-Commodore, Cape Coral Cruise Club

      Each month, the Cape Coral Cruise Club takes a scheduled cruise to a different marina in SW Florida and stays for several days enjoying the area’s amenities and hospitality. We do that nine times a year along with an extended cruise each Spring. We take a break during the summer months of July and August as many members leave the area. However, sometimes a marina offers the Club a special off-season discounted rate to visit their marina.
      That happened when the Pink Shell Marina and Resort in Fort Myers Beach offered the Club an attractive discounted rate for staying at its marina during the month of August. I won’t say how low the offer was, but it was certainly an offer we couldn’t refuse. So, it was decided to organize an unofficial cruise to the marina for any interested Club members.
      Unofficially, nine boats made the trip, and this article is the unofficial account of that trip. Over the days of August 20th to 23rd we scheduled this cruise to arrive Thursday and depart on Sunday so that some members who may work during the week could join the fun.006
      Eight boats arrived Thursday, and one boat arrived Friday. The marina either coincidentally or intentionally assigned us slips that resulted in all boats being lined up from the smallest to the largest as you walked down the dock. Yellow Club burgees flew on the bow of each boat sporting our club mascot – a dolphin holding a drink of some sort (an adult beverage, I would surmise). After safely docking Thursday, sixteen club members convened in the late afternoon for cocktails, snacks and conversation.
      For dinner, we had CIFO’s. (Circular Italian Food Objects). 5 large pizzas were picked up and we dined in the Pink Shell conference room provided by the resort. After dinner, I hosted a game of Jeopardy created on my laptop and projected onto the wall. Special categories such as `Local Waters’ and `Cape Coral History’ were developed. (For example, are you aware that the first traffic signal in Cape Coral was placed at the intersection of Cape Coral Pkwy and Coronado in 1969?)
      On Friday, we again provided members breakfast, and then everyone went off to enjoy the pool, Ft. Myers beach, or other amenities around the resort. I decided to join several friends at the pool which was not heated, nor needed to be. After being in the pool for several minutes, I recalled my new iPhone was with me in its water proof case. It was checked for calls and, to my utter dismay, found that the `water proof’ case was not so water proof. Yikes! So much for making phone calls the rest of the week.DSC_0009 (1)
      For Friday night, a group dinner was arranged at Matanzas Inn Restaurant in Fort Myers Beach and eighteen boaters along with fifteen other Club members who arrived by land yacht, converged on the restaurant at 6:00 PM. Since we had a small crowd of 33, the manager had reserved the back area of the restaurant so that we could all dine together. It was great to see so many club members show up. Everyone was anxious to catch up on life’s happenings since we had not been together for a month or so. We also celebrated one member’s birthday. Well, not on that day specifically, but the same date of many, many years prior. You know what I mean.
      On Saturday, we again fed the boaters breakfast and then sent everyone off to enjoy the day. Saturday was pretty much an ‘˜on your own’ day, so we didn’t have much planned as far as club activities. Fortunately, Mother Nature was quite cooperative during the time we stayed at the marina and our need for umbrellas was minimal. However, her hot days reminded us that we were indeed in southwest Florida in the middle of August.DSC_0037
      On Sunday morning we cast off lines and headed for home ports. Much appreciation goes to Dave O’Conner, the Dockmaster at Pink Shell Resort and Marina. His hospitality and special accommodation to the Cape Coral Cruise Club made this unofficial cruise officially happen!
      The Cape Coral Cruise Club is open to new members who own a boat with overnight accommodations and reside in the Cape Coral / Ft. Myers area. For membership information please contact Phil Kryger at 239-541-0236. View a short picture video of recent Club activities and read additional Club information on its website, www.c-c-c-c.org Like us on Facebook.

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