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    • Mysterious Rock On Angelfish Creek Channel

      Angeflish Creek is the first serous crossover stream, cruising south from Miami to Jewfish Creek, that cruisers might use to transit for the Inside to the Hawk Channel route, or the other way around. For years, there has been discussion here on the Cruisers' Net "Florida Keys" section about a mysterios underwater "rock" on the Hawk Channel end of the Angelfish Creek channel.
      Below, as you will read, Captain Steve seems to have discovered the "rock," the hard way. Others have not found this obstruction, and earlier questioned its existence. I don't think there's any question in Captain Steve's mind, and we should all go to proverbial school on his misfortune. Hope Steve does have the opportunity to perform his "snorked research," and the "rock" can be located once and for all!

      I read in your 2005 keys guide about the phantom rock on the east side (hawks Channel) side of angel creek
      I will verify that the rock is there as I bent a prop on it a year ago. I still can not tell you exactly where it is because when I hit it I wasn’t looking for it… so it happened so fast that I wasn’t cognizant of just where it was. However I can say that I think it is just to the north of the last westerly buoy that marks the channel on that side
      I draw 5-1/2 feet so I only go through there now at mid to high tide. I have been through there three times since and always hold my breath when I go through
      If you have any additional information on this rock, please let me know
      We are members at the Ocean Reef Club and keep our boat in Lauderdale so when the wind is up we take the ICW down past Miami and then across Biscayne Bay through Angelfish Creek to the Hawk Channel side to Ocean Reef
      Please e-mail me if you ever get a bead on this rock
      I plan to try and take the tender out form ocean reef and snorkel the area and see if I can find it. If I do find it I will get the GPS coordinates and send it to you
      Thanks
      Steve

      Subject: Angel Fish Creek "ROCK"
      Cruising News: We came to the Bahamas on March 17th and used Angel Fish Creek Cut to get to Bimini. We had spent the night at Pumpkin Key and at 7 AM went to sea via that cut. We were concerned with the west side depth since all charts show very little water just at the west entrance which turn out to be no problem and soon after that we had depths of 7 feet and more.
      The problem we had was the same rock stated by Capt Steve. We were in the middle of the channel which is well marked and as we approached between the two last sets of red and green markers on the east side of Angel Fish Creek cut we "FOUND" the rock or something very solid. There were two hits, telling me that there are at least two obstructions next to each other closer to the north side of the channel. We draw only 3 feet and it was low tide at that momentn(7am March 17th, 2009) , but just before we hit we had at least 5/6 feet of water!
      We are never again using this cut!!! until some government body fixes or remove this obstructions.
      Please be aware. We were lucky. we just had a scrape on the keel of out power cat and were able to proceed to the Bahamas. Had our boat been a little deeper, we could have sunk right there!
      Take care.
      Captain George

      Last year (Nov 07) we used angel fish creek as a crossover to Hawk Channel from Bayside—never again.  We are in a 48 Krogen whaleback (5’ draft) and maybe we were carrying 5’6”—Anyway, coming out right at high water, we were outbound just before the red and green (last ones before Hawk) and in the middle and struck hard rock bottom.  You don’t get stuck unless you stop and with our full keel and protected wheel (single engine) we plowed on scraping the paint off the bottom of our keel but getting to deeper water.  The swell either helped or hurt depending on your point of view but we made it to deeper water and will not go that way again.
      Steve and Teresa Hutchins
      Sea Quill

      Cruising News: I wrote to you 2 years about the presence of the rock.  It is actually more of an area of rocks.  I paid for my initial knowledge like many.  Also a member of Ocean Reef Club and Anglers Club we are there a lot.  I have sounded the channel with our tender and have snorkled the Creek.  It is tough spot.  The normal tide at that point is 2.7 ft but varies.  I will pass there with my 5.5 draft at high tide only!  This is not like grounding in GA or SC, this is ROCK.  I have been it the dock masters office one holiday weekend when the Miami crowed arrives Friday afternoon at low tide.  3 boats + 6 props ruined.  What proof do you need?  The worst spot is between the second 2 markers inside on the east end.  Just abeam 3/3A.  There is a little snake creek that spurs off to the north but shoals at the east end.  As it has been said many times before "Local Knowledge Required".  Use the Stiltsville channel 20 miles north.  The folks in the know do.
      Ed Potter
      "Alfie"
      55 Fleming

      And, here's a fellow cruiser who made multiple transits through Angelfish Creek, and never found the "rock." Note Steve's very apt comments about movement of the channel markers!

      I just returned form the Keys and made four passages through angelfish creek without incident
      The winds were high, in excess of 25 knots all week, so I was not able to snorkel and look for the infamous rock
      However, the channel has been remarked with pole markers. The mouth of the channel is now very narrow so I think that since the markers have been moved together and my original thought was that the rock was just north of the mouth of the channel that the rock issue may be eliminated if you approach from the southeast stay within the narrow entrance markers
      Steve

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    • John C. Pennekamp State Park Marina and Largo Sound Mooring Field

      On 12/4/08, as part of a “Florida Keys Wish List,” I posed the following question:

      Turning now, for the first time, to the outside/Hawk Channel route, has anyone run the channel and canal leading to John C. Pennekamp Park Marina? Were you able to find an overnight transient slip here? Please describe the services you encountered, and the general condition of the marina. Conversely, did you pick up a mooring in Largo Sound? This mooring field is also managed by the Pennekamp Park. What depths did you find in the mooring field? How about shelter from inclement weather? Would you recommend this mooring field to fellow cruisers?

      Responses follow:

      John Pennekamp park. Weʼve stayed at the marina and on a mooring. The marina is really for commercial tourist boats and not well suited for pleasure craft. The Lagoon entrance is shallow, maybe 4 feet, the moorings limited (get reservations) and have little protection from strong northerlies. To enjoy the park you must dinghy around back to the marina. Restaurants and Publix are within walking distance.
      Bob and Toni Dorman

      I called John Pennecamp Park Marina to ask about a slip. They said that the channel in was only 4.5 feet deep at high tide and that the bottom was rocky. Definitely not for me — I draw 5.5
      Dick Mills
      SV Tarwathie

      Click Here To View the Florida Keys Cruisers’ Net Marina Directory Listing For John C. Pennekamp State Park Marina

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    • Rodriguez Key Anchorage (off Hawk Channel, near Key Largo)

      On 12/4/08, as part of a “Florida Keys Wish List,” I posed the following question:

      21. Has anyone anchored off Rodriguez Key (west, northwest of Hawk Channel’s marker #37)? Did you find enough shelter here for a comfortable overnight stay?

      Responses follow:

      Anchored there in 2004 prior to jumping off to the Bahamas (South Riding Rock). Stayed there a couple days waiting for 22 to 25 kt ESE winds to settle. They never did so we bit the bullet and went anyway. My memory has faded but to my recollection the north side anchorage was surprisingly calm, even to these winds, when staying over to the west side of the anchorage area. Anchored there on the return trip too, but there were only zephyrs then.
      Bob Hanners

      I’ve anchored on both sides of Rodriguez Key. It’s a very convenient jumping off place to cross to the Bahamas. Anchoring was good but you are very exposed if the wind clocks around on you. We also found it hard to find sandy patches to anchor legally. You can get fined if you anchor in sea grass. The good part, is that the water around the island is as clear as Bahamas water. Great for scouting the bottom.
      Dick Mills
      SV Tarwathie

      Hi:
      Anchored on N side of Rodriguez in a max 10 kt breeze from the the NW and was happy with it. Departing on December 5 AM into Hawk Channel, saw two boats anchored on the S side. (Beneteau 343/drawing 4’9″)
      Appreciate your online info.
      Tom
      SV Move
      Boot Key Harbor

      Click Here To View the Florida Keys Cruisers’ Net Anchorage Directory Listing For Rodriguez Key Anchorage

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    • Key Largo Canal and Marina del Mar (off Hawk Channel)

      On 12/4/08, as part of a “Florida Keys Wish List,” I posed the following question:

      19. Who has cruised from Hawk Channel into the Key Largo Canal? Were you able to find dockage at Marina Del Ray, or some other facility on this canal? Did you experience `crash corner?’

      Responses follow:

      We have cruised into Key Largo Canal many times. Marina Del Mar is an excellent facility. You must make reservations in advance to reserve a slip in the winter. We have experienced “crash corner”. Just call ahead on channel 16, announcing your approach. No problem
      Ron Hollander

      Weʼve been around crash corner 4 times with no problems. Listen closely to your VHF as all commercial vessels announce their intent and location.
      Bob and Toni Dorman

      Click Here For The Cruisers’ Net’s Florida Keys Marina Directory Listing For Marina del Mar

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    • Angelfish Creek (Card Sound to Hawk Channel)

      On 12/4/08, as part of a "Florida Keys Wish List," I posed the following question:

      5. Who has cruised through Angelfish Creek from either the inside/ICW route to Hawk Channel, or the other way around? Did you encounter the infamous “underwater rock on the Hawk Channel side of Angelfish Creek? Has anyone anchored in the creeks making off from the interior reaches of Angelfish Creek?

      Responses follow:

      We have cruised thru Angelfish Creek many times, both ways and have not encountered the infamous "underwater rock".
      Ron Hollander

      I anchored a 38' sailboat in the last creek before going out to Hawk channel. It's a tight squeeze, I was up against the mangroves in windshifts. The channel going out is very narrow and has a bend but was well marked. I went out at night with a spotlight, suggest you have a spare spotlight ready in case the other one fails. I never heard of the rock. 
      Bill

      I have cruised the Intracoastal from Melbourne to Marathon and up the west coast to St Petersburgh many times.  As for Anlefish creek I never had an encounter with the rock at the Hawk channel end but my draft is only 4 feet. You can anchor in the creek but don't venture up the side channels, and ues good ground tackel.  The current will dominate which means you will do a 180 degree switch with the change of the tide so use two anchors. I have also anchored in tarpon basin. I found that there is a good area off  the south west shore.  Beware of the shol in the middle of the basin, but if you need less than 5 feet you can get around the shol via the south west approach. 
      Richard A Bruning

      Subject: Andelfish Creek
      Cruising News: We entered the channel from Card Sound at mid tide and we had 7 ft. all the way to the anchorage at Middle Creek. We had 9-10 ft. in the anchorage. It was a great spot in the mangroves. We left at high tide Hawk Channel side to 7-8 ft. We did not find the elusive rock.
      George & Carol Myers
      S/V Traumerei

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