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    • Good Times at Bay Point Marina (Panama City, Fl – on Grand Lagoon)

      To access Bay Point Marina, you must depart the Northern Gulf ICW as if you were going to run Panama City Inlet. You must then cut off to the west and traverse a narrow but marked entrance into Grand Lagoon. Bay Point will be the first facility to come up to starboard as you cruise upstream on this body of water.

      Steve,the harbormaster, had a great shrimp boil for everyone here at the Marina. In the Carolinas we would call it Frogimore Stew. There was live music, all the shrimp, sausage, corn on the cob, potatoes, desserts and drinks that you could consume. Loopers Surona, Amalia and Roy El’ enjoyed this super hospitality.
      Also if you need a mechanic in this area, Chuck Davis is the man. His phone number is 850-596-6469.
      Roy & Elvie
      on Roy El’

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    • Praise for Bay Point Marina (Panama City, FL on Grand Lagoon)

      To access this superb facility, you must leaven the Northern Gulf ICW, and follow the path towards Panama City Inlet. You must then cut off on a narrow channel into wide Grand Lagoon. Bay Point Marina is the first facility encountered on Grand Lagoon.
      Having visited here many times myself, I can attest to what a great place this is, and these good folks are a SALT SOUTHEAST CRUISERS’ NET SPONSOR!!!

      Steve,the harbormaster, had a great shrimp boil for everyone here at the Marina. In the Carolinas we would call it Frogmore Stew. There was live music, all the shrimp, sausage, corn on the cob, potatoes, desserts and drinks that you could consume.
      Also if you need a mechanic in this area, Chuck Davis is the man. His phone number is 850-596-6469.
      Roy & Elvie on Roy El’

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    • Great Review of Wharf at Orange Beach Marina and Bay Point Marina

      The message below was copied from the AGLCA mail list, and is in response to a request for marina recommendation along the Northern Gulf coastline.
      The Wharf at Orange Beach Marina is located directly on the canal-like portion of the Northern Gulf ICW that runs between Mobile Bay and Pensacola, near Statute Mile 159.

      You will certainly get plenty of recommendations but I would offer the Wharf at Orange Beach. It has the village environment you mentioned and is relatively safe from storms. Bay Point Marina in Panama City is the second choice only because it is a little further away from things and its village is more limited. Both marinas are offering the same fantastic rates to AGLCA members. Neither marina will do your yard work, Saunders in Orange Beach is good and the nearest place to the Wharf unless you want to go back to Mobile Bay where you have several good choices.
      Stay safe,
      Tom

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    • Do It Yourself Boatyards – White City to Panama City, FL

      Thanks Captain Paul for some very useful information which all Northern Gulf cruisers can use!

      I have done some digging around and found some information. Panama City and Port St Joe (actually White City, FL) have DIY boatyards. These are: Bay County Boatyard on the Watson Bayou and Port St Joe’s Boat Works located just off of the GICW near White City, FL.
      Paul

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    • Watch Out For The Cape San Blas Shoals Cruising Between Panama City and Port St. Joe

      The cruise discussed below is clearly an offshore passage between Panama City inlet and Port St. Joe (or the other way around). The real message here is to stay hell and gone away from the shoals in and around Cape San Blas. After reading Captain Wayne’s description below, I say “Amen” to that!

      Numerous boats have gotten into trouble on the Cape San Blas Shoals that are just a little southwest of Port St. Joe.
      When going to/from South Florida from/to Port St. Joe or Panama City, FL, be sure to go within a couple of hundred yards – or less – of the sea buoy off Cape San Blas. Currents in this area can be treacherous. I have seen confused and/or standing 4-6′ waves over the shoals when the Gulf, in deeper water is virtually calm. Because of the currents, the shoals move constantly. One should not attempt any short cuts, using any charts, as the bottom simply is not like that on the charts. The charts indicate that there are several places one can take short cuts, or greatly cut the corner near the buoy. The last time I went via Cape San Blas, I was headed north, I ran to within about 500-600 yards or so of the buoy, all was well until the bottom came up, and up and up. The last solid depth reading was about 10′ (boat had a 6.5′ draft). Shortly, my fathometer read 0′ (because of sand in the water column close to the bottom), but the keel never hit anything solid that I could tell. The shallow area was only about 100 yards wide, but it sure got my attention!
      The first time I went via Cape San Blas, I was also headed north. The Gulf’s seas were about 1.5-2.5′, with few breaking waves. The shoals looked to be no different. I foolishly cut the corner by over a mile (chart showed plenty of water) and seriously endangered the boat for what seemed forever (4-6′ confused seas, very strong currents – seemingly from all directions – so progress over the bottom was tortuously slow — all the while the fathometer indicated 0′ due to “blowing” sand. Fortunately, I was in my old sailboat, which had a rudder the size of a barn door, so I was able to keep from broaching and kept it heading in the right direction. It was really strange – looking UP at a wave front, as stern of the boat was in the bottom of a trough, and seeing king mackerel by the hundreds, swimming down the wave face. It looked like they would just swim into the boat. The next few times, I went all the way to the sea buoy, where there is lots of water. The last time, I got over-confident and was under pressure due to heavy weather closing in.
      Both times I cut the corner, it was close to high tide, so I ‘knew’ that there would be plenty of water. After I moved back to Panama City, I became acquainted with several Gulf shrimpers, who advised me to never ever go over the shoals at Cape San Blas under any circumstances – primarily because of the currents.
      Also, when approaching the shoals from the south, the water often looks calm, if the Gulf is calm. But what you can’t see are the breaking waves caused by the southeast-flowing current over the shoals, creating standing waves.
      Port St. Joe is readily accessible from the GIWW via the Gulf Canal – a straight dredged ditch from the GIWW to Port St. Joe. When the seas
      on the Gulf are reasonable, we often go via the Gulf Canal. I even did that with the sailboat because it could not go under the bridge
      at Tyndall AFB, on the GIWW. The only ‘iffy’ place was Lake Wimico, where depths sometimes approached 6.5′ in spots. The keel never
      actually hit bottom that I know of. That was about 10 years or so ago, so I do not know its depths now.
      Take care and be safe.
      Wayne
      Celestial
      Albin 43 Sundeck

      Wayne wrote ” The only ‘iffy’ place was Lake Wimico, where depths sometimes approached 6.5′ in spots. The keel never actually hit bottom that I know of. That was about 10 years or so ago, so I do not know its depths now.”
      Wayne,
      We helped friends deliver their Krogen 42 from Port St. Joe to Clearwater just last week. We took the ICW down to Apalachicola and left from Government Cut the following morning. Our trip through Lake Wimico was uneventful. The chart shows the controlled depth to be 12′. Certainly, the SE portion of the lake is very shallow and any departure out of the marked channel would likely be a bit of an adventure.
      Regards,
      Randy Pickelmann
      MORNING STAR

      I’m getting ready to cross for St. Pete to Panama City in a few weeks so I read this post with great interest as that route requires a turn around the shoals. Studying the charts I see two greens, numbers 1 and 3 that seem to mark the east and west sides of the shoal. My currently planned route keeps me south of these but very close to #3. The only other mark I see is one south of the saftey area. Is staying south of greens 1 & 3 sufficent or should I set my waypoint elsewhere?
      Thanks.
      Reed Estabrook
      M/V Cahoots

      I am preparing to depart Bradenton on Saturday, April 3, 2010 heading for New Orleans. Any idea on Your departure date planned?
      Ray Blanchard

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    • The Living’s Easy in Panama City

      I like spending time in Panama City myself, and, you can’t do better than coil your lines at the Panama City Municipal Marina, a SALTY SOUTHEAST CRUISERS’ NET SPONSOR!!

      The cost for living here is outrageous- the money that has to be spent on sun tan lotion and sandals takes a big bite out of the budget. Then when you have to buy socks to wear with the sandals, you know, for when the temperature plummets to below 60. Thank god for global warming, not only will we be able to eliminate the cost for socks, but there will be many more places to cruise!
      Rudy and Jill
      Briney Bug, Panama City, Fl

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    • Smack Bayou Anchorage (near Panama City, FL)

      Smack Bayou is located on the opposite side of the Northern Gulf ICW from the Panama City Waterfront, just slightly west of Massalina Bayou.
      The two mooring balls Captain Root refers to below have been in place, as I recall, for years, but there is still room to drop the hook. Many cruisers anchor in Smack Bayou year after year.

      We anchored in Smack Bayou Monday night. Be advised that the charted 8 foot pool that is around the point to starboard has two permanant mooring balls in the middle and partially submerged wreck on the east side. We anchored west and slightly behind the mooring balls in about 8 feet at mid tide. Protection is excellent. However, there is some shoaling coming from the shore line, so I would suggest anchoring ahead of the mooring balls in deeper water to avoid swinging over a shoal.
      An option is to anchor in the first pool after the entrance. A trawler was anchored on the west side of that pool and seemed to do fine. Be aware there is a partially submerged wreck at the far end of that pool.
      Bill Root
      MV Tucandu, currently docked Panama City

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    • St. Andrews Marina (Panama City, St. M. 285)


      St. Andrews Marina is the westernmost of the two excellent facilities owned and manged by the city of Panama City, Florida. I cannot recommend both of these marinas too highly, and not just because they are a SALTY SOUTHEAST CRUISERS’ NET SPONSOR!

      Subject: Panama City St. Andrews Marina
      Cruising News: Nice to see that St. Andrews coffee shop and Uncle Ernies’s restaurant have survived the economic recession and still serving excellent food. We docked at St. Andrews Marina in Panama City while on a delivery 10.27.09 – 11.3.09 from Bradenton FL to New Orleans LA. We love the St. Andrews neighborhood. A scarecrow competition decorated all the storefronts for Halloween. Musicians played in outdoor pavilion near marina. Marina is clean, floating docks for transients, and walking distance to lovely neighborhood park. Fresh seafood available off the boats docked there.
      We cruised offshore until Pensacola, so cannot comment on ICW water depths.
      Capt. Wendy Young
      Punta Gorda FL

      Click Here To Open A Chart View Window, Zoomed To the Location of At. Andrew Bay

      Click Here To View the Northern Gulf Cruisers’ Net Marina Directory Listing For St. Andrews Marina

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    • Low Water Levels in the Florida Panhandle as of 10/18/09

      I, too, have experienced the low water – wind tide conditions described by Captain Tom below. As he notes, these depths usually persist only a few days, but while they are underway, soundings can be spooky!

      If you are near or in the Florida Panhandle this morning, you will find the water levels are 1-2 feet below the charted depths. The north winds have been blowing hard for a few days and pushed the water off the coastline. It will come back in a few days; but for now, be careful.
      Stay Safe,
      Tom

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    • Bay Point Marina (Panama City, Grand Lagoon)

      Bay Point Marina is located in Grand Lagoon, just off the Panama City Inlet. This is a FINE facility!

      This Marina located in Panama City,Fl. is worth the stop. Great service, excellent layalong docks with a great swiming pool and Deli. Steve the Manager runs an excellent operation, you couldn/t ask for more. Highly recommend.
      Ray & Patsy
      on the Patsyray

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    • Panama City Municipal Marina Has New Web Site

      The Panama City Marina is located on the intercoastal Waterway one block from Downtown Panama City. The Panama City Marina is a newly renovated 240-slip marina facility designed for all classes of ves It is a pleasure to bring you this good news about Panama City Municipal Marina. It is, without a doubt, one of the best municipal marina faclities I've run across in my 28 years of being a cruising guide author. And, they are a SALTY SOUTHEAST CRUISERS' NET SPONSOR!

      Subject: New web site
      Cruising News: We would like to announce that Panama City Marina has a new stand alone web site separate from the city.  The new site, www.pcmarina.com, has much more information specific to the marina & the local area.  We hope this will be helpful to boaters passing through our area. Some areas of it are still under construction but the site is up & running.  We welcome any feedback.
      Bill Lloyd

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    • Bay Point Marina (Panama City, FL)

      Bay Point Marina lies on the shores of Grand Lagoon, whose entrance channel runs off Panama City inlet. This passage can be just a little tricky.
      Bay Point Marina is a fine facility, and I have always been very impressed with its staff and physical plant. Coupled with the equally excellent Panama City Municipal Marina (A SALTY SOUTHEAST CRUISERS’ NET SPONSOR), this community can claim pleasure craft facilities second to none in the Florida Panhandle.

      The next stop eastbound that we recommend is Bay Point Marina just west of the ship channel inlet at Panama City. Call Steve Arndt, Harbormaster at 850-628-1740 (he spoke at your Fall Rendezvous), or click on: http://www.baypointmarina.net/index.cfm
      Enjoy the Emerald Coast with us!
      Dick Hanson
      on Souvenir in the FL Panhandle


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    • Good Report on Panama City Municipal Marina

      Of course Captain had a good experience at Panama City Municipal Marina. After all, they are A SALTY SOUTHEAST CRUISERS’ NET SPONSOR!

      Subject: City Marina in Panama City
      Cruising News: Had good two days at City Marina in Panama City. Service good. Concrete pilings in slips are now padded.
      Gordon Fornell

      Of course Captain had a good experience at Panama City Municipal Marina. After all, they are A SALTY SOUTHEAST CRUISERS’ NET SPONSOR!

      Subject: City Marina in Panama City
      Cruising News: Had good two days at City Marina in Panama City. Service good. Concrete pilings in slips are now padded.
      Gordon Fornell

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