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    • UPDATE: Report on Free Docking in Great Bridge, VA, AICW Statute Mile 11.5


      Great Bridge Battlefield Park is on the west side of the Waterway as it passes through the friendly town of Great Bridge. As Skipper Holtbakk relates, the 24hr free docking is strictly enforced. If you need to stay longer than 24hrs, we heartily recommend SALTY SOUTHEAST CRUISERS’ NET SPONSOR, Atlantic Yacht Basin, just south of Great Bridge Bridge.

      Hi,
      I like you to know that the 24 hour docking is enforced in Great Bridge VA. I docked between the bridge and the lock 5/16/15 1100 hrs. At 1858 hrs on 5/17/15 I was told to get off the dock or receive a summon to appear in court for overstaying the 24 hr limit. I asked if I could stay until morning, but no way. It was just two boats docked at the time, so it was not a question of space.
      Stein A Holtbakk

      Our thanks to friends Chuck Baier and Susan Landry for sharing this research:

      Larry, We have been researching the incident reported on cruisersnet regarding the boat owner being forced to leave the seawall between the lock and the bridge. I received a reply from the City and the Department of Parks and Recreation. The following is their reply…

      We apologize for any inconvenience or aggravation this situation may have caused you in your travels through Chesapeake. Our research continues to show us that 24-hour mooring is the norm, on unpaid slips, for this area of the Intracoastal Waterway. As you may be aware, 24-hour mooring is dictated by the City of Chesapeake City Code and Parks, Recreation and Tourism policy. Furthermore, the Army Corps of Engineers’ lease agreement with the City of Chesapeake requires staff to enforce this code as written. The justification and enforcement of this code is important because, at any point in time, we have multiple vessels waiting to utilize the pier on a first-come, first-served basis. Last year, for instance, we had a significantly increased number of unfortunate issues with some boaters tying up at that dock and leaving for days, sometimes weeks at a time, which left little to no room for other visiting patrons. Additionally, we received numerous complaints, especially at the specific location, from other boaters, neighbors, the bridge tender, Army Corps of Engineers and Chesapeake Police Department regarding vagrant boaters visiting this and other local areas within our City. In order to keep our docks consistently available, safe, clean, and welcoming, the Chesapeake Park Rangers have been given the directive to use their discretion to enforce this City Code. The Rangers do, however, have the discretion to make the determination as to what type of enforcement actions are appropriate for problems both they and community members identify. `Zero tolerance’ policies can sometimes be viewed as `zero intelligence’ policies which have the net effect of eliminating a Ranger’s discretion. We encourage and expect our Rangers to use their best judgment in abating certain offenses. They will always go out and talk to the vessel’s owner before making any determination, unless the owner becomes unavailable. There are many situations where a discussion, or possibly a warning, achieves the same if not a better result than strict enforcement does. To this end, we sincerely hope you understand our objectives and will continue to visit Chesapeake’s waterways again in the future. If you have any questions or need any assistance during your travels to Chesapeake, please do not hesitate to give me a call.
      Sincerely,
      Michael D. Barber
      Director of Parks, Recreation and Tourism
      1224 Progressive Drive, Suite 200
      Chesapeake, VA 23320
      (757) 382-6411
      mbarber@cityofchesapeake.net

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      Comments from Cruisers (2)

      1. Pat Banyas -  June 12, 2015 - 5:15 pm

        While I sympathize with the boater I must say that after 30 some years boating and cruising I am still surprised how many boaters are too cheap to pay for a berth somewhere. I know we all talk about how much we spend but the point here is that this is a 24 hour free berth. If you need more that that pull out your wallet and pay for a slip. We all know ahead of time how long we need for a particular stop. It does not matter how many boats are there. Plan on 24 hours and then movr on and open your wallet. It is not the grocery store or evil empire (west marine) that needs your support. Marinas up and down the waterway are the ones who need the support.

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      2. Mike C -  May 29, 2015 - 4:07 pm

        I’d be curious to know who did the enforcing. I have spent more than one night there several times. Admittedly we are ahead of most of the snowbirds both north and southbound. Spending money on supplies sometimes takes more than one day.

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    • Observations on the Dismal Swamp Canal, AICW Alternate Route


      As Captain Healy noted below on AGLCA’s Forum , northbound cruisers enter the Canal just north of Elizabeth City, A SALTY SOUTHEAST CRUISERS’ NET SPONSOR. Traveling south, the Dismal Swamp Canal route exits the Waterway westward immediately south of the I-64 fixed bridge at statute mile 7.1. The Dismal Swamp Canal Welcome Center, also A SALTY SOUTHEAST CRUISERS’ NET SPONSOR, is located on the east shore of the Canal at Statute Mile 28.

      The day you passed us, we went into the Elizabeth City free wharf [Mariner’s Wharf] just after you guys went into Pelican Marina. (What a perfectly nominal crossing of the Albemarle, eh!) We left EC Saturday morning and travelled up to Portsmouth’s High Street Basin after a fuel stop at Top Rack. We also had the Dismal all to ourselves; well, except for a couple of canoes. We draw 4-1/2 ft. We never touched, even once! We saw water depths of 6-1/2 ft or better the entire way. We spent our time this trip looking for the stone mile posts that were placed on the canal during a widening and renovation project in the 1820s. Many have been found/restored/replaced in their original positions by a group called the Virginia Navigation & Canal Society. The Deep Creek lockmaster that we all know and love – Robert Peek – is a canal historian and a key contributor to that effort. We did actually spot many of the markers. Funny that it’s the first trip out of 10 or more canal transits that we even knew they were there! Too often asleep, I guess.
      That said, I definitely agree, people using the Dismal Swamp Canal should make way at slow bell. On previous trips through the canal, we have touched a time or two or three. We always travel at slow bell, and we recommend that if following another boat, you do that at a distance of 1/2 to 3/4 miles. That way, if that boat picks something up off the bottom, it has time to settle back down before you get to it. We have never had any damage; not ever. The canal is 22 miles from South Mills to Deep Creek. Boats that clear through either lock at 08h30 will make the other end for 13h30, so you have 5 hours to travel 22 StM. That’s less than 5 StM/hr, and should be easy even at dead idle. If you get to the other end early, you just have to keep station there until locking time. Keeping station in the canal can be a challenge – especially if there are a cluster of boats all doing the same dance – if there’s any wind to speak of. SLOW BELL!
      Don’t be afraid of it. Just go slow and “smell the roses.”
      Jim
      Peg and Jim Healy aboard Sanctuary

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      Comments from Cruisers (4)

      1. Richard B Emerson -  May 25, 2015 - 6:52 pm

        The intersection with the Lake Drummond feeder is one of the places we’ve felt the bottom. However, the bottom is so soft it’s not a problem. We’ve also touched leaving the South Mills lock, southbound.

        Back to Lake Drummond… This is the water supply for the canal. The locks help to conserve the water. This means that the canal’s depth remains relatively constant. The water coming from the feeder slows down as it spreads into the canal. As the water slows, it drops its load of sediment – hence the bump that has to be periodically dredged.

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      2. Rick Emerson -  May 24, 2015 - 10:20 am

        We draw 6′ and, aside from rarely feeling the muddy bottom, have had no problems with the canal. Well, with one notable exception. We’ve collected twigs and leaves from overhanging trees. We know of a 27-foot sailboat that scrubbed off his masthead after a moment’s inattention put him close to the bank. IIRC, running at more than 5.5 kts is a waste of fuel and time. The distance between the locks and their schedule means running faster means parking in front of the next lock. Finally, agreed that standing off the boat ahead is a good idea, but 1/2 – 3/4 mile just won’t work. See above regarding schedules. Invariably there are people who somehow think they’ll beat the schedule and will run up hard astern to “push” the boat on the bow. Passing is almost impossible in most places, making moving well with the traffic imperative. All that said, the canal and Pasquitank are one of our favorite stretches on the ICW.

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      3. Darrell Stewart -  May 22, 2015 - 4:20 pm

        As a footnote, Southwind Construction will be dredging portions of the DSC around mid to late July near Mile 22 at the intersection of the Lake Drummond Feeder Ditch. A local notice to mariners will be issued prior to startup.

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      4. Donna Stewart -  May 22, 2015 - 4:13 pm

        Thank you for sharing your story. We have had some rumored 4 foot depth reports lately and have no idea where this originated, but appreciate your comments. We always ask our boaters about their experience, to share accurate information and we are aware the ACOE is always try to alleviate
        problems as much as possible. All of our traffic who stop in the center have also made similar comments, so again, thank for you telling your story.
        I just scanned our boater’s log to see if you stopped in to say hi, but we must have missed you on this trip. Thanks for coming our way!

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    • A Good Visit to Atlantic Yacht Basin, Great Bridge, VA, AICW Statute Mile 12


      Atlantic Yacht Basin, A SALTY SOUTHEAST CRUISERS’ NET SPONSOR, is located at Mile 12 just south of the Great Bridge lock and bridge. Skipper Schucker’s comments are from AGLCA’s Forum.

      We stayed here two nights. $1 per foot $7 for 30 amp $15 for 50 amp electric. They have lots of mechanics on site, but book ahead (remember Memorial day is coming up).
      1/2 mile to a shopping center with grocery, ABC, five different places to eat, Dollar store, fabric store, Radio Shack, etc.
      It’s cool to watch all the mega boats go by waiting for the bridge (so no wakes).
      Fuel was $2.449 for less than 200 gallons, $2.399 for over 200 gallons. A deal! (14 May 2015)
      We got our rugs steam cleaned by Benchmark at 757-358-4700, entire boat for $60 and a $20 tip. And I know you are going “I can rent a machine for $35 and do it myself” And while you can, it is well worth having a pro do it.
      They got both “mystery” stains out.
      When she estimated she said $60 and I said “You are sure, $60 and a $20 tip will cover it”. She smiled and said yes and they did a great job. Far, far better than I could of / would have done.
      AYB is at the south end of the Great Bridge draw bridge either up the VA canal or 7 miles south of the Dismal Canal
      Foster Schucker
      Quo Vadimus
      Nowhere OK
      1993 Bayliner 4588

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    • Bridge Frustration of An Unusual Kind


      As Skipper Paul reports the old Steel Bridge is no more, replaced by a 95ft fixed bridge. While his report is definitely good news for other cruisers, we offer him condolences on a missed dining opportunity and we’re delighted that Paul could laugh at himself! See /?p=106464 for the remaining construction details.

      On Friday, April 10, northbound, I stopped at Great Bridge at 1545 thinking I would be held up until 1800 at Steel Bridge. To my surprise (and chagrin), the next morning lock-though brought me to a functioning high-rise `steel bridge’; the old low-slung steel bridge was no more. Another on-the -hour obstruction gone south of Norfolk. That’s the good news. Had I known, however, I could have kept on and dined that Friday evening at one of my favorite spots along the AICW, Portsmouth’s Cafe Europa, That’s the source of my chagrin.
      Paul

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      1. Bob McLeran -  May 1, 2015 - 3:39 pm

        If I remember, and read the charts correctly (much greater likelihood of that) then that means there are only two real bridge obstructions through that area – the two Norfolk Southern railway bridges (and the corresponding highway bridge with the southern one of those).

        That’s really good news.

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    • Praise for Atlantic Yacht Basin, Great Bridge, VA, AICW Statute Mile 12


      Our boat was since october in the Atlantic Yacht Basin und we got the best service. James knows most of the problems a boat can have. He even got our hydraulic crane repaired, 2 other yards didn’t succeed. I can recommend AYB for all the work you need and the docking under roof is great.
      Rene Gubler
      Blue Rosy V

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    • Good Report from Hampton Public Piers, north of Mile Zero, Hampton, VA


      Hampton Public Piers are located on the western shore of the Hampton River, approximately 11 nautical miles north of Statute Mile Zero.

      The Hampton Public Piers can be a convenient and affordable stop, not far off ICW routes. They have decent showers. Wifi is weak if not near the office.
      The setting is fairly urban. There are several restaurants and bars within walking distance, groceries a cab ride away. Road noise from the bridge and surrounding streets dies down somewhat after dark. Various locals walk the dockside paths at all hours.
      River currents and tides can be strong, crossways to the slips, so docking may be difficult, as the finger piers are quite short.
      Neil Woodside

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    • Deep Keel Vessel Needs Your Advice

      This question is unusual, not because of Skipper Aigeltinger’s concern for Waterway depths, but because of his vessel’s 7ft 3inch draft. Whether that draft is fin keel or full keel, that is a lot of draft with which to confront the shallow spots in North Carolina. He has access to our listing of NC Problem Stretches, but is asking for your input into his decision to attempt the ICW from Norfolk to Beaufort, NC, which, fortunately for him, is north of all the Inlet/ICW intersections further south.

      I am considering delivering a 44 ft sailboat from the Chesapeake to Florida. Draft is 7 ft 3 in. Would like to know if anyone knows if it’s possible to get that from Norfolk to Beaufort in the ICW ? Or if anyone could direct me to a source for that info.
      Thanks, Ed Aigeltinger

      Note this praise for Argus:

      The Argus soundings are really helpful. I followed ICW all the way from Norfolk to Beaufort, NC and it looks like the most questionable area is a few miles north of Beaufort. (That area just north of the Alligator River bridge where the channel takes a turn or two around some shoals has always been poorly marked. Have to be careful there but I think there’s plenty of water if you stay channel center.) The shallow area just north of Beaufort is at the south end of the Adams Creek Canal and as I recall that part is narrow and the markers are a little far apart making it a little difficult to stay in the channel. On the chart the Argus readings are shown to be out of the channel. So I wonder if the chart is wrong or if whoever did the Argus run missed the channel, hence the shallow readings there ?? Would appreciate any input from anyone re that. I plan to call Jarrett Bay Boatworks and Beaufort Docks and ask for some local knowledge. Would hate to run 199 miles from Norfolk and get 3-4 miles away only to not be able to get there. However, if the readings are right, the shallowest I see is just over 4 ft and the tidal range is about 3 ft so still might be able to skim through at high tide.
      Thanks again for your help-Ed

      Thanks to all for the info re the ICW depth from Norfolk to Beaufort, NC.

      I also spoke with the dockmaster at Beaufort Docks and he assured me there was plenty of depth at Core Creek if one is careful to stay in the channel. It’s narrow there and the markers are a little far apart. Apparently the Argus boat was a little out of channel hence the readings down to 4 ft. Dockmaster also said he has a friend who comes down each year with 9 ft. He said to be careful to stay as close to center as possible in the Alligator River-Pungo River canal as his friend has hit some pretty hard stuff a little off center.
      As you mention fixed bridge height is also a concern. Boat I may deliver is 62 ft to mast top and 65 ft to antenna top. (I brought a cat down once and rang almost every beam on the bridges with the antenna. A little nerve wracking.) So if anyone has or hears any local knowledge re bridge height problems I would certainly appreciate the info. I may try to do what I’ve done a few times in the past. Install a 4-5 ft long piece of 1×4 wood at the mast head going forward and then a vertical piece at the forward end that is about a foot higher than the highest solid part of the mast. One can then creep up to the first beam and if this ‘˜indicator’ goes under all is hopefully well. If not heavy reverse is in order.
      Thanks again for the info and please keep me in mind if you hear anything else of importance.
      Ed Aigeltinger

      November 30:
      Larry-
      Thanks again for your help with ICW depth issue. I had no idea about the ARGUS ‘program’. Obviously with that kind of data in the laptop one could cruise the ICW from data point to data point. Really amazing stuff !
      Thanks again,
      Ed Aigeltinger

      Comments from Cruisers (3)

      1. Rick Emerson -  November 20, 2014 - 9:35 pm

        7’+ along the Coinjock or Virgina Cut route is certainly possible. Keep in mind that most of the route, save for Core Creek, near Beaufort, is not tidal, save for wind-driven tides. For that reason, you need to be certain that your air draft (masthead height) is no more than 63′. Not all “65′” bridges have the listed clearance, and there is no tide to help clearance.

        We’ve traveled with a boat drawing close to 7′ 6″ who, last time I saw her, had made it as far south as at least the Waccamaw River. We draw 6′ and, with attention to tides, made it to St. Simons Sound before going outside to Fernandina Beach, where we are at the moment.

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      2. Michael Tigar -  November 20, 2014 - 5:50 pm

        This can be done. Take the Virginia Route. Be very careful just north of Allligator River Bridge, and go when it is not low water there. Just south of Core Creek Bridge, in Adams Creek, go at mid-tide or higher and stay carefully in the channel. Then head towards Morehead City harbor and double back to get into Beaufort.

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      3. CAPT Ron Crook -  November 20, 2014 - 5:16 pm

        I am of the belief that you should not have much trouble with th 7 03″ draft as far as Beaufort, NC I have travelled that portion of the icw with 8ft 2″ of draft from 2000 thru 2004 with a 456 B. Farther south you would have a lot of problems. I now travel that area with 411 B but only draw 5 ft. Best of luck.

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    • Southbound Voyage Through Dismal Swamp Canal, AICW Alternate Route


      This lovely photo-log of a voyage through Dismal Swamp Canal, sent to us by close friend of Claiborne Young, Ed Kukla, is taken from Ed’s blog site, Cruising Aboard Freedom. Traveling south, the Dismal Swamp Canal route exits the Waterway westward immediately south of the I-64 fixed bridge at statute mile 7.1. Along the canal is A SALTY SOUTHEAST CRUISERS’ NET SPONSOR, the Dismal Swamp Welcome Center. Sit back and enjoy the ride…

      Not So Dismal
      Heading south from Norfolk, VA to the Albemarle Sound of NC can be accomplished two ways on the ICW (intracoastal waterway). In the past we have taken the Virginia cut. This is a straight forward route with just one small lock that raises you less than a foot. It is longer in distance but shorter in time. The Dismal Swamp Canal is the other option. It was constructed in the 1790s. George Washington was a staunch supporter and investor of this hand dug canal. We decided to take the swamp this time to enjoy the scenery and history.

      kukla11
      Here we are approaching a lock. The lock tenders also have to operate the lift bridge for you.

      kukla
      The canal, we were told, has a minimum of 7 foot depth down the middle. This was true except for some of those logs laying on the bottom. We managed to thump into a few of them.

      You can see some logs along the lush shoreline.

      kukla2
      We even saw a little bit of fall color.

      kukla3
      The trees would overhang the canal in areas. We had to take care not to clip them with our mast.

      kukla4
      The canal is very narrow, sufficient for the 1800s but a little tight for modern day boats.

      kukla5

      kukla6

       

      In most areas there is no room to pass other boats so you follow the same ones into the locks and your speed is set by the slowest boat in front of you.

      kukla7

       

      The slow speed was no problem for us but the power boat behind us was not very happy.

      kukla9
      The ICW is known for its tannin stained water that stains the hull of your vessel. The Dismal Swamp has the darkest water we’ve seen…..coffee?

       

      kukla1
      We really enjoyed this picturesque route. Will we do it again next year? Stay tuned.
      Ed Kukla
      S/V Freedom, Endeavor 42

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    • Atlantic Yacht Basin Newsletter, AICW Statute Mile 12


      Atlantic Yacht Basin, A SALTY SOUTHEAST CRUISERS’ NET SPONSOR and long-time favorite repair yard, lies directly on the path of the Waterway immediately south of the Great Bridge Lock in Chesapeake, VA. Give them a try, you will be glad you did!

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      atlanticyb

      We had September weather in August, so why not a little August in September? Seriously though, this chunk of time after Labor Day might be a little warm, but we are expecting a beautiful fall season here at AYB – particularly with so many people passing through. People come to AYB when they are looking for a quick stop, a home base, or a trusted place to get work done.

      Right now is a great time to come by for the Fall Bottom Painting Special. Book your job to take place between September 15 and December 1, 2014 and you will get $40/ft power wash, light sanding, 1 coat of paint plus $5.00 a foot haul in and out. Excessive scraping or additional work may incur an additional charge. It’s also a great time to check out what is happening with all of your underwater equipment and surfaces (see below for more tips).

      For the full Newsletter, go to: http://us4.campaign-archive1.com/?u=3271550552cb1ac3554d70054&id=09089ca701&e=757d12f986

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    • Efforts by Virginia Beach to Promote the Intracoastal Waterway

      Our thanks to Stacy Parker for this article on the Waterway. For the full story from PilotOnline.com, go to: http://hamptonroads.com/2014/09/cities-unite-protect-intracoastal-waterway

      Cities unite to protect, promote Intracoastal Waterway
      By Stacy Parker
      The Virginian-Pilot
      © September 10, 2014
      VIRGINIA BEACH

      The Atlantic Intracoastal Waterway meanders through Chesapeake and Virginia Beach, paying no mind to city boundaries. So why should city leaders when it comes to protecting the natural resource?

      Virginia Beach planners decided to take a broader approach to the waterway last year. They had begun to create an environmental strategy for the North Landing River, part of the Albemarle and Chesapeake Canal portion of the Intracoastal Waterway. It called for marketing the river to boost tourism and creating a long-term protection plan.

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    • Virginia Cut versus Dismal Swamp Canal


      The “debate” over which route is better has been going on for a very long time. The Dismal Swamp Canal route is almost one of those “either you love or you hate it” as shown in this article from November of 2013: /?p=128524. Unless you are in a big hurry, SSECN has always preferred the slow, easy pace of the Canal over the Virginia Cut. The Dismal Swamp Canal Welcome Center, A SALTY SOUTHEAST CRUISERS’ NET SPONSOR!, is located on the east shore of the like-named Canal at Statute Mile 28. Traveling south, the Dismal Swamp Canal route exits the Waterway westward immediately south of the I-64 fixed bridge at statute mile 7.1.

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      Hi Larry,
      Well it’s that time of year again and we figure a lot of SSECN readers are thinking, “Virginia Cut or Dismal Swamp?”
      Diana and I are BIG fans of the Dismal Swamp route and for those readers interested here’s a link to a PassageMaker Magazine article we wrote to back it up!

      https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3291490/magazine%20articles/PMM0514%20ICW%20Dismal%20Frugal%20Doyle.pdf

      And the Captains Doyle have sent us the excellent, complete section on the Dismal Swamp from their ICW CruiseGuide:

      https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3291490/magazine%20articles/OTW%20CruiseGuide%20Dismal%20Swamp.pdf

      Stay in the deep water,
      Best,
      Captains Mark & Diana Doyle
      m/v Semi-Local
      www.OnTheWaterChartGuides.com

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      1. Tim Pittman -  September 3, 2014 - 7:48 am

        I went through the Dismal Swamp Cut last weekend. I enjoyed this run and particularly enjoyed staying at the well maintained visitors center docks. However we hit 6 dead heads between the locks on our 4 ft draft boat. I don’t think we had damage.

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    • Mooring Regulations in Portsmouth Inlet Docks, AICW Mile Zero


      North Harbor Inlet and High Street Inlet are in Portsmouth on the west side of the Waterway channel just below mile marker zero. A big thank you to Skipper Litchfield for sending us these regulations. The in-town inlet docking areas are very attractive and convenient, but suitable only for cruisers under 40ft. These inlets also serve the ferries that connect Portsmouth to Norfolk waterfront.

      Official Information on Portsmouth’s mooring policies has been difficult to find, however a visit to the Portsmouth Visitor Information Center netted a fact sheet that is given out to boaters who stop and visit the center. I have scanned and posted the document (in PDF format) on our clubs website. You can see the documents here:
      http://portsmouthboatclub.org/PDF%20files/PortsVA%20-%20Mooring_opt.pdf
      Regards,
      Dick Litchfield
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    • Four Tips for Picking the Best Boatyard, BoatUS News

      The following article from BoatUS on how to choose a good boat yard is certainly helpful, and you can find among our SALTY SOUTHEAST CRUISERS NET SPONSORS! two of the finest yards on the east coast. Sponsors that are helping to keep this service FREE to the cruising community. Those yards are, of course, Atlantic Yacht Basin in Chesapeake, VA and Bennett Brothers in Wilmington, NC.

      ALEXANDRIA, Va., June 24, 2014 ‘“ While boatyards are busy, summer may be a better time to have repair work done on the boat. Why? The typical boatyard and shop warranty on labor is 90 days, giving boaters the time necessary to use the boat and ensure a correct repair. But where does a boater go to get repairs done right? Boat Owners Association of The United States (BoatUS) has some tips:

      Use what your eyes are telling you: Sometimes it’s the little things that give you a sign that the yard you are entering isn’t the best. One BoatUS member took his boat to a repair facility and thought that the abundance of boats in the lot meant that the boatyard was popular. It wasn’t until after the yard started giving odd excuses for delays and then made him pay for hundreds of dollars of ineffective engine repairs before releasing the boat, did the member notice that few, if any, of the boats in the lot had been moved in years.

      All recommendations aren’t the same: Online recommendations are a mish-mash of good and bad: more reliable ones have real names attached and specific details in postings. Fellow boaters are likely the best folks to recommend a yard, but go one step further: be sure that the repairs are similar to what you need. Another option is to ask a marine surveyor. These professionals are often knowledgeable about the quality of work in local repair yards, as long as they’re impartial and unaffiliated with any shop or boatyard. Look for a boat surveyor having SAMS or NAMS credentials as these surveyor associations require their members to be independent. Another good sign to see is a shop that follows American Boat and Yacht Council (ABYC) guidelines for repairs, which ensures that crucial safety standards are met. ABYC technicians also get specialized certification in a range of boat systems.

      Dealerships may offer more, but don’t write off independents: There are certain benefits to taking an out-of-warranty boat or motor to a dealership, with the best training and equipment being at the top of the list. Dealerships also enjoy better parts connections. On the other hand, most well established independent repair facilities also produce high quality work ‘“ especially those run by former or current factory-trained technicians. And unlike a dealership, they must compete on repair business alone and their prices are usually lower.

      Look for shops that specialize: Boats vary in type, size and complexity and so do repair facilities. Don’t bring a 34-foot trawler for repairs to a shop that mostly works on trailer boats, and don’t expect the guy living in a van down by the river to fix your high-tech outboard.

      `Always check around first before doing business,’ said BoatUS Director of Consumer Affairs Charles Fort. `Many boaters only have the summer to enjoy their boats, so any problems could lead to a premature end of the boating season.’

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      Click Here To View the Virginia Cruisers’ Net Marina Directory Listing For Atlantic Yacht Basin

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    • Unhappy Dismal Swamp Canal Traveler, AICW Alternate Route


      Most of the reports we receive from Dismal Swamp travelers are downright amorous! See /?p=138522. There are occasions, after high winds or high water, when the canal may be trashed with extra debris and duckweed, see /?p=88326. In fact, it is sometimes closed to order for the ACOE to remove excess debris. Obviously, Captain Grimes came through at one of those congested times, and I hope you will join me in encouraging Captain Grimes to give the Great Dismal Swamp Canal another chance! It is a favorite part of the Waterway for many folks.
      A SALTY SOUTHEAST CRUISERS’ NET SPONSOR, the Dismal Swamp Canal Welcome Center lies along the eastern banks of the Dismal Swamp Canal at statute mile 28.

      We traveled southbound in August, 2012, at < 6 knots with two of us on the flybridge looking for debris in the water. We hit no fewer than 5 submerged objects. Fortunately, our hull sustained no damage, but we will not venture into the Dismal Swamp Canal again. We saw numerous floating logs tied to brush along the bank with flimsy rope.
      Capt. David Grimes

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    • Update on Status of Mile Zero Marine Store, Portsmouth, VA


      Skipper Shick is correct, Mile Marker Zero Marine Suppiles has moved, but, as Bob McBride’s reply clarifies, they are moving across the river to Norfolk and we certainly like the prospect of the plans he is making at Waterside in Norfolk. His current website is still active: milemarker0marinesupplies.com/.

      The store at this address (1 High Street) has closed. They are rumored to have moved to 607 High Street (a few blocks away), but I saw no marine store there and their phone is answered by an answering machine.
      Larry Shick

      6/6/2014 Here’s an update from owner Bob McBride:

      Yes we are moving to Norfolk at the waterside marina. The city of Norfolk is redoing the waterside marina. They are expanding their docks to handle much larger boats. They are putting in a fuel dock.
      They are renovating the festival area with food and drink and entertainment.they are building a bldg at the end of Joe’s Crab Shack. It will house the laundry,showers and rest rooms for the boaters staying at the marina.we are really looking forward to being there. We feel there is a strong need for a marine supply store in downtown Norfolk since west marine closed three. We are doing e-commerce out of a warehouse. We deliver to the boats at no charge.
      Bob McBride

      We contacted Bob from Marker 0 the week of May 9 to order a new fan.
      He has closed his store on Hi(h Street but is still in business. He delivered our fan to our boat in the basin in Portsmouth, telling us that he is going to have a new store across the Elizabeth River by the Waterside Marina. We’re not sure when he will open there.
      Chris & Durene Zinglemann
      S/V Impetuous

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    • Reminder: Rules for Meeting/Overtaking on the ICW

      From Rule 35 of the USCG Navigation Center for Inland vessels:
      Rule 35
      (a) When power-driven vessels are in sight of one another and meeting or crossing at a distance within half a mile of each other, each vessel underway, when maneuvering as authorized or required by these Rules:

      (i) shall indicate that maneuver by the following signals on her whistle:

      one short blast to mean “I intend to leave you on my port side”;
      two short blasts to mean “I intend to leave you on my starboard side”;
      three short blasts to mean “I am operating astern propulsion”.
      (ii) upon hearing the one or two blast signal of the other shall, if in agreement, sound the same whistle signal and take the steps necessary to effect a safe passing. If, however, from any cause, the vessel doubts the safety of the proposed maneuver, she shall sound the danger signal specified in paragraph (d) of this Rule and each vessel shall take appropriate precautionary action until a safe passing agreement is made.
      (d) When vessels in sight of one another are approaching each other and from any cause either vessel fails to understand the intentions or actions of the other, or is in doubt whether sufficient action is being taken by the other to avoid collision, the vessel in doubt shall immediately indicate such doubt by giving at least five short and rapid blasts on the whistle. [Such | This] signal may be supplemented by at least five short and rapid flashes.
      Remember that “Port” and “Starboard” always refer to your vessel.
      Our thanks to the AGLCA and the Burkes for this good advice and reminder to review the Rules of the Road!

      We live on the waterway just south of Mile Marker “0” and in the last week there have been two occasions of “five” whistles by passing tugs pushing barges. The Southbound tugs sounded signals at approaching Northbound cruisers. Each event was started by the tugs sounding appropriate passing whistle signals . . . the cruisers ignored the proposal, and the five whistle signals followed. Vessels passed very close, fortunately there were no mishaps. Norfolk is a very busy place and as the summer season is soon to begin, and, with the looper meeting taking place here in Norfolk, please know that we urge every boater to monitor channel 13 in the Harbor and to talk early to approaching large ships and tugs. Call them on 13 as soon as you see them. They will work with you and like very much to hear you on the radio, channel 13. They then know you see them, have a better feeling regarding your competence, all resulting in understanding and a reduction in everyone’s level of concern. Be sure you have a clear correct understanding of the Rules concerning One Whistle and Two Whistle passing. Be safe out there.
      Charlie & Bonnie Burke
      M/V SONATA (GB42 Ocean Marine Portsmouth)

      IMHO it is not wise to use actual horn signals. Commercial vessels rely on radio communication and they are unlikely to be able to hear your puny horn’“use VHF channel 13! Other pleasure boaters may be able to hear your horn, but 90+% won’t know what it means and it will just cause anger/confusion. Instead, first try contacting the other boat on the VHF’“usually channel 16 works for pleasure boats. Failing that, assume the other boat may do something unexpected and don’t try to cut it close in a narrow channel until you know it is safe to pass. If you do get a horn blast from another boat it often means `pull over to your starboard, I’m coming through’ irregardless of what the actual horn signal means. So if you hear one blast from astern and you see a fast boat coming up don’t immediately swing to port! The chances are very good they don’t understand what one horn blast means.
      John Kettlewell

      I have noticed that from Louisiana to Florida’s west coast, most recreational boaters, and all commercial skippers use the terms `one or two whistles’ according to the rules. On the east coast from Florida to NC, most recreational boaters say I am passing you on the port or starboard side, which can be very unclear in an overtaking situation. Is this a regional thing? Also, I have handled court cases involving boating accidents, and disregarding the proper sound signals will certainly work against you in that venue.
      Berwick Duval

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    • Tidewater Yacht Marina has a New Owner, AICW Statute Mile Zero

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      Tidewater Yacht Marina in Portsmouth, VA, is located on the west side of Town Point Reach in the Norfolk harbor, hard by Mile Zero, and has served for many Waterway cruisers as a jumping-off point for their voyage “down the ditch.” Tidewater Yacht Marina’s website is href=”http://www.tyamarina.com”>www.tyamarina.com

      The link below from Tidewater Biz of Hampton Roads was sent to us by Captain John Kettlewell.

      http://www.dailypress.com/business/tidewater/dp-portsmouth-marina-acquired-by-owner-of-york-river-yacht-haven-in-gloucester-20140224,0,4034085.story

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    • Divergent Thoughts on Cruising the AICW Dismal Swamp Alternate Route

      Set in beautiful Camden Count, NC, the Dismal Swamp Canal Welcome Center provides free dockage for cruisers' on the Dismal Swamp AICW Alternate Route

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      The recent closure of the Great Bridge Lock, which temporarily made the AICW Dismal Swamp Canal Alternate Route the only inland option, has prompted discussion of the Dismal Swamp’s cruising characteristics, good and less than good.

      I am curious as to why our members are concerned about the Great Bridge Lock being closed. There is enough water and the locks are open on the Dismal Swamp Canal and the passage is prettier than the Chesapeake and Albemarle Canal. We have traversed both many times and prefer the Dismal.
      It’s true that there are more marinas on the C and A and you may have to run a generator at Elizabeth City or at the anchorage above the E. C. bridge but the distance is the same for each passage. True the lower Pasquotank River is open to the wind but then so is Currituck Sound.
      Jim Bertch

      Jim, rarely do I disagree with you, but this time I do! It cost us a pretty penny last time we went through and we’ve been there and done that, and we now prefer the Virginia Cut. OHH and BTW it appears that the Great Bridge Lock is open again. No word on whether it is permanently fixed or what, but right now they are operating on a normal schedule!
      Hans

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    • Dismal Swamp Canal AICW Alternate Route Versus the North Carolina – Virginia Cut Route Primary AICW Passage

      Set in beautiful Camden Count, NC, the Dismal Swamp Canal Welcome Center provides free dockage for cruisers' on the Dismal Swamp AICW Alternate Route

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      The recent closure of the Great Bridge Lock, which temporarily made the Dismal Swamp Canal AICW Alternate Route the only inland option, prompted this discussion of the Dismal Swamp versus the North Carolina – Virginia Cut (a. k. a. the Albemarle and Chesapeake Canal) on the AGLCA Forum.

      Obviously each boater makes their own decisions but the Dismal is my absolute preference over the Va Cut. that said I am a shallow draft boat (3′) and have keel protected props. I have found that there are different risks for both routes depending upon your individual boat. We always thump something coming thru the Dismal but so far no damage, and also the Pungo for that matter. The Va Cut bridges are difficult for us to time, as we are a slow boat so we are often waked badly by inconsiderate captains on large yachts transiting the Va. Cut making a schedule. There is commercial traffic on the cut as well and the long narrow channel reach across the Carrituck Sound in weather can be a real bear. I also find that the approaches to the bridges on the upper end of the Virginia Cut has it’s dangers with the stumps lining that narrow channel. Often not visible until they poke out from a wake trough.
      So for us the very protected easy relaxing transit of the Dismal is the attraction and it has many more anchoring/docking options than the cut. When weather blocks the crossing of the Albemarle we often hang out at Elizabeth’s (sometimes referred to as Robert’s) Dock between the Swing bridge and the deep creek lock chamber. Deep water extremely protected free dock with easy walking to the town that has everything the cruiser could require in the adjacent shopping Center. No electric and sometimes you can get water if the tap is on. We prefer this spot to trying to jam into Elizabeth City among a backlog of boats trying to wait a weather window.
      Again the decision is of course dependent upon your situation and boat.
      cruise safe, stay warm but have fun

      We agree whole heartedly in preferring the Dismal Swamp route over the Dreadful Currituck Sound route. In our dozen cruises along the east coast we’ve visited the canal 10 times (leaving 2 for the Dreadful route). Same reasons mentioned in the above article, plus the canal and the river leading to it from Elizabeth City is beautiful and unhurried. We’ve never had an issue with our four foot draft. The new nature center is worth a visit.
      Bob McLeran/Judy Young

      Absolutely agree with the comments above. Add that a visit with Robert Peak, lockmaster at Deep Creek is one of the pleasures of the trip. For a small adventure, take the dinghy, canoe or kayak up the feeder ditch, use the marine railway to get it to lake level and enjoy the almost perfect roundness and natural beauty of Lake Drummond (just be sure to note a landmark so you can find your way back off the lake).
      If you visit the state park and walk or bicycle on the trails, take seriously the warning about Lyme disease carrying deer ticks. We didn’t and had multiple tick bites resulting in a round of antibiotics when we reached home a few days later.
      Jean Thomason

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    • Praise for “Hampton Snowbird Rendezvous” Held 10/18/13 to 10/20/13 in Hampton, VA

      For the full story on this first annual event, see /?p=123282 and /?p=124669

      This collection of trawlers, sailboats, vendors, presenters, restaurants and all the others who have had anything to do with this event all agree that it has been an incredible success. Be sure to give it very careful consideration if you are in the area next year.
      Capt. Jeff Janacek
      Trawler Time on “Adirondack”

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