Cruisers' Net | Cruisers Helping Cruisers

Home
Contact
Tools
- Stat. Mile/Lat-Lon Chart View Search
- Website Introductory Tour
- Website Detailed Tour
- Chartview Detailed Tour
- Chart View
  - At Current Location
  - At Selected Location
  - Enter A Location
  - Enter Latitude and Longitude
Weather
- Tropical Storms
- NOAA Marine Weather
- NOAA Tides and Currents
- North Carolina Tides
- South Carolina Tides
- Georgia Tides
- Florida Tides
- Local Forecasts
- Enter Location for the Weather
- Marv's Tropical Weather Reports
Resource Articles
Photos
Young’s Yarns

Latest Cruising News
Breaking News
Current Local Notices and Nav Alerts
Recent Comments
Boat Broker Partners
Lowest Gas Prices Anywhere
Lowest Diesel Prices Anywhere
Resource Articles
Photos
Photos
Young’s Yarns
Tropical Storm Outlook
Local Forecasts
Local Forecasts
Search:
Focus On Sponsors
- Shelter Cove Harbour and Marina
- Windmill Harbour Marina
- Gulfport, Boca Ciega Bay, Florida
- St. Petersburg Municipal Marina
- Darien, Georgia
- Makers Air - Destinations Made
- Palm Coast Marina, FL AICW Statute Mile 803
- Riviera Dunes Marina Resort, on the Manatee River, off Tampa Bay
- Atlantic Intracoastal Waterway Association
- Marineland Marina, Marineland, FL, AICW Statute Mile 796
- Fort Pierce City Marina
- Twin Dolphin Marina, off Tampa Bay
- Edenton, NC
- Legacy Harbour Marina
- onSpot wifi
- Fishermen’s Village Resort and Marina
- Harbour Town Yacht Basin
- Windmill Harbour Marina
- Morehead City Yacht Basin
- Staniel Cay Yacht Club
- Isle of Hope Marina

VA to NC All Cruising News
VA to NC Local Notices and Nav Alerts
VA to NC Marinas
VA to NC Fuel Prices
VA to NC Bridge Schedules
Stat. Mile/Lat-Lon Chart View Search

Intersection of AICW and Bogue inlet
Intersection of AICW and Browns inlet
Trouble Spots – Intersection of AICW and Carolina Beach Inlet
Trouble Spots – Intersection of AICW and Lockwoods Folly Inlet
Trouble Spots – Intersection of AICW and New River
Trouble Spots – Intersection of ICW and Shallotte Inlet
Trouble Spots – Northern Mouth of Alligator River
NC All Cruising News
NC Regional Cruising News
- AICW, Dismal Swamp Route (Statute Mile 25 to 65)
- AICW, NC Virginia Cut Route (Statute Mile 34 to 65)
- Albemarle Sound (off the AICW)
- Pamlico, Crotoan and Roanoke Sounds (off the AICW)
- AICW, Alligator River to Pungo River (Statute Mile 65 to 145)
- Pamlico River (off the AICW)
- AICW, Goose Creek to Bay River (Statute Mile 145 to 165)
- Neuse River (AICW Statute Mile 165 to 185)
- AICW, Adams Creek to Beaufort and Morehead City (Statute Mile 185 to 207)
- AICW, Bogue Sound to New River (Statute Mile 207 to 247)
- AICW, Swan Point to Snows Cut (Statute Mile 247 to 299)
- Cape Fear River (AICW Statute Mile 299 to 309)
- AICW, Southport to Calabash (Statute Mile 309 to 343)
NC AICW Problem Stretches
NC Local Notices and Nav Alerts
NC Anchorages
- All Anchorages
- AICW Dismal Swamp Route (Statute Mile 25 to 65)
- AICW NC Virginia Cut Route (Statute Mile 34 to 65)
- Albemarle Sound (off the AICW)
- Pamlico, Crotoan Roanoke Sounds
- AICW Alligator River to Pungo River (Statute Mile 65 to 145)
- Anchorages on the Pamlico River
- AICW Goose Creek to Bay River (Statute Mile 145 to 165)
- Neuse River (AICW Statute Mile 165 to 185)
- AICW Adams Creek to Beaufort and Morehead City (Statute Mile 185 to 207)
- AICW Bogue Sound to New River (Statute Mile 207 to 247)
- AICW Swan Point to Snows Cut (Statute Mile 247 to 299)
- Upper Cape Fear River (off the AICW)
- AICW Southport to Calabash (Statute Mile 309 to 343
NC Marinas
- All Marinas
- SSECN Sponsoring Marinas
- AICW Dismal Swamp Route (Statute Mile 25 to 65)
- AICW NC Virginia Cut Route (Statute Mile 34 to 65)
- Albemarle Sound (off the AICW)
- Pamlico, Crotoan Roanoke Sounds (off the AICW)
- AICW Alligator River to Pungo River (Statute Mile 65 to 145)
- on the Pamlico River (off the AICW)
- Hobucken Cut to Neuse River and New Bern (Statute Mile 145 to 185)
- AICW Adams Creek to Beaufort and Morehead City (Statute Mile 185 to 207)
- AICW Bogue Sound to New River (Statute Mile 207 to 247)
- AICW Swan Point to Snows Cut (Statute Mile 247 to 299)
- Upper Cape Fear River (off the AICW)
- AICW Lower Cape Fear River to Calabash (Statute Mile 299 to 309)
NC LPG/CNG Availability
NC Chart View
- North Carolina General
- Elizabeth City, NC
- Edenton, NC
- Columbia, NC
- Manteo, NC
- Hatteras, NC
- Ocracoke, NC
- Belhaven, NC
- Bath, NC
- Washington, NC
- Oriental, NC
- New Bern, NC
- Beaufort, NC
- Morehead City, NC
- Swansboro, NC
- Wrightsville Beach, NC
- Wilmington, NC
- Southport, NC
Stat. Mile/Lat-Lon Chart View Search
NC Fuel Prices
NC Bridge Schedules
NC Photo Albums
- Belhaven, NC
- Oriental, NC
- Beaufort, NC

Trouble Spots – Ashepoo Coosaw Cutoff Into Coosaw River
Trouble Spots – Channel South of McClellanville, SC to Awendaw Creek
Trouble Spots – Fields Cut
Trouble Spots – Intersection of Wright River and Northern Fields Cut
Trouble Spots - Waterway Northeast of Ben Sawyer
SC All Cruising News
SC Regional Cruising News
- AICW, Calabash to Socastee Bridge (Statute Mile 343 to 371)
- AICW, Waccamaw River to Waccamaw Point (Statute Mile 371 to 403)
- Georgetown, Winyah Bay, Pee Dee River, Black River (AICW Statute Mile 403 to 410)
- AICW, Belle Isle to Sullivan Island (Statute Mile 410 to 464)
- Charleston, including the Cooper, Wando and Ashley Rivers (AICW Statute Mile 464 to 473)
- AICW, Stono River to North Edisto River (Statute Mile 473 to 496)
- AICW, Dawho River to Ashepoo-Coosaw Cutoff (Statute Mile 496 to 518)
- AICW, Coosaw River to Lady’s Island Bridge (Statute Mile 518 to 536)
- Beaufort, SC (AICW Statute Mile 537)
- AICW, Beaufort River to Calibogue Sound and Hilton Head Island (Statute Mile 537 to 565)
- AICW, Cooper River to Savannah River (Statute Mile 565 to 575.5)
AICW Problem Stretches
Local Notices and Nav Alerts
SC Anchorages
- All Anchorages
- AICW, Calabash to Socastee Bridge (Statute Mile 343 to 371)
- AICW, Waccamaw River to Waccamaw Point (Statute Mile 371 to 403)
- Georgetown, Winyah Bay, Pee Dee River, Black River (AICW Statute Mile 403 to 410)
- AICW, Belle Isle to Sullivan Island (Statute Mile 410 to 464)
- Charleston, including the Cooper, Wando and Ashley Rivers (AICW Statute Mile 464 to 473)
- AICW, Stono River to North Edisto River (Statute Mile 473 to 496)
- ICW, Dawho River to Ashepoo-Coosaw Cutoff (AICW Statute Mile 496 to 518)
- AICW, Coosaw River to Lady’s Island Bridge (Statute Mile 518 to 536)
- Beaufort, SC (AICW Statute Mile 537)
- Anchorages ICW Beaufort River to Calibogue Sound and Hilton Head Island (AICW Statute Mile 565 to 575.5)
- AICW, Cooper River to Savannah River (Statute Mile 565 to 575.5)
SC Marinas
- All Marinas
- SSECN Sponsoring Marinas
- AICW, Calabash to Socastee Bridge (Statute Mile 343 to 371)
- AICW, Waccamaw River to Waccamaw Point (Statute Mile 371 to 403)
- Georgetown, Winyah Bay, Pee Dee River, Black River (AICW Statute Mile 403 to 410)
- AICW, Belle Isle to Sullivan Island (Statute Mile 410 to 464)
- Charleston, including the Cooper, Wando and Ashley Rivers (AICW Statute Mile 464 to 473)
- AICW, Stono River to North Edisto River (Statute Mile 473 to 496)
- AICW, Dawho River to Ashepoo-Coosaw Cutoff (Statute Mile 496 to 518)
- AICW, Coosaw River to Lady’s Island Bridge (Statute Mile 518 to 536)
- Beaufort, SC (AICW Statute Mile 537)
- AICW Beaufort River to Calibogue Sound and Hilton Head Island (Statute Mile 565 to 575.5)
- AICW, Cooper River to Savannah River (Statute Mile 565 to 575.5)
SC LPG/CNG Availability
SC Chart View
- South Carolina General
- North Myrtle Beach – Myrtle Beach, SC
- Georgetown, SC
- Charleston, SC
- Beaufort, SC
- Hilton Head Island, SC
Stat. Mile/Lat-Lon Chart View Search
SC Fuel Prices
SC Bridge Schedules

Channel Through Cumberland Dividings
Trouble Spots – Jekyll Creek
Trouble Spots – Little Mud River
GA All Cruising News
GA Regional Cruising News
- Savannah River to Georgia (off the AICW)
- AICW, Elba Island Cut to Hell Gate (Statute Mile 575.5 to 602)
- AICW, Ogeechee River to St. Simons Sound (Statute Mile 602 to 680)
- AICW, Jekyll Creek to St. Marys River (Statute Mile 680 to 712)
GA AICW Problem Stretches
GA Local Notices and Nav Alerts
GA Anchorages
- All Anchorages
- Savannah River to Savannah (off the AICW)
- AICW, Elba Island Cut to Hell Gate (Statute Mile 575.5 to 602
- AICW, Ogeechee River to St. Simons Sound (Statute Mile 602 to 680)
- AICW, Jekyll Creek to St. Marys River (Statute Mile 680 to 712)
GA Marinas
- All Marinas
- SSECN Sponsoring Marinas
- Savannah River to Savannah (off the AICW)
- AICW, Elba Island Cut to Hell Gate (Statute Mile 575.5 to 602)
- AICW, Ogeechee River to St. Simons Sound (Statute Mile 602 to 680)
- AICW, Jekyll Creek to St. Marys River (Statute Mile 680 to 712)
GA LPG/CNG Availability
GA Chart View
- Georgia General
- Savannah, GA
- Thunderbolt, GA
- Isle of Hope, GA
- St. Simons Island, GA
- Brunswick, GA
- St. Marys, GA
Stat. Mile/Lat-Lon Chart View Search
GA Fuel Prices
GA Bridge Schedules

Trouble Spots – AICW/Bakers Haulover Inlet Intersection
Trouble Spots – Intersection of AICW and Mantanzas Inlet
EF All Cruising News
EF Regional Cruising News
- AICW, St. Marys River to Sisters Creek (Statute Mile 712 to 740)
- St. Johns River, including Jacksonville, Palatka and Sanford (off the AICW)
- AICW, Jacksonville Beach to Vilano Beach Bridge (Statute Mile 740 to 776)
- St. Augustine (AICW Statute Mile 776 to 780)
- AICW, San Sebastian River to Daytona Beach (Statute Mile 780 to 835)
- AICW, Port Orange to Haulover Canal (Statute Mile 835 to 870)
- AICW, Northern Indian River and Titusville to Melbourne (Statute Mile 870 to 918)
- AICW, Melbourne Beach to St. Lucie River and Stuart, Florida (Statute Mile 918 to 988)
- AICW, Great Pocket to Palm Beach (Statute Mile 988 to 1030)
- AICW, Lantana to Las Olas Boulevard Bridge (Statute Mile 1030 to 1064)
- Fort Lauderdale (AICW Statute Mile 1064 to 1067)
- AICW, Port Everglades to Miami and Government Cut Inlet (Statute Mile 1067 to 1090)
EF AICW Problem Stretches
EF Local Notices and Nav Alerts
EF Anchorages
- All Eastern Florida Anchorages
- All St. Johns River Anchorages
- AICW, St. Marys River to Sisters Creek (Statute Mile 712 to 740)
- St. Johns River, Mayport to Jacksonville (off the AICW)
- St. Johns River, Ortega River tp Palatka (off the AICW)
- St. Johns River, Devils Elbow to Lake George (off the AICW)
- St. Johns River, Astor to Lake Monroe (off the AICW)
- AICW, Jacksonville Beach to Vilano Beach Bridge (Statute Mile 740 to 776)
- St. Augustine (AICW Statute Mile 446 to 780)
- AICW, San Sebastian River to Daytona Beach (Statute Mile 780 to 835)
- AICW, Port Orange to Haulover Canal (Statute Mile 835 to 870)
- AICW, Northern Indian River and Titusville to Melbourne (Statute Mile 870 to 918)
- AICW, Melbourne Beach to St. Lucie River and Stuart, Florida (Statute Mile 918 to 988)
- AICW, Great Pocket to Palm Beach (Statute Mile 988 to 1030)
- AICW, Lantana to Las Olas Boulevard Bridge (Statute Mile 1030 to 1064)
- Fort Lauderdale (AICW Statute Mile 1064 to 1067)
- AICW, Port Everglades to Miami and Government Cut Inlet (Statute Mile 1067 to 1090)
EF Marinas
- All Eastern Florida Marinas
- EF SSECN Sponsoring Marinas
- AICW, St. Marys River to Sisters Creek (Statute Mile 712 to 740)
- St. Johns River, including Jacksonville, Palatka and Sanford (off the AICW)
- AICW, Jacksonville Beach to Vilano Beach Bridge (Statute Mile 740 to 776)
- St. Augustine (AICW Statute Mile 776 to 780)
- AICW, San Sebastian River to Daytona Beach (Statute Mile 780 to 835)
- AICW, Port Orange to Haulover Canal (Statute Mile 835 to 870)
- AICW, Northern Indian River and Titusville to Melbourne (Statute Mile 870 to 918)
- AICW, Melbourne Beach to St. Lucie River and Stuart, Florida (Statute Mile 918 to 988)
- AICW, Great Pocket to Palm Beach (Statute Mile 988 to 1030)
- AICW, Lantana to Las Olas Boulevard Bridge (Statute Mile 1030 to 1064)
- Fort Lauderdale (AICW Statute Mile 1064 to 1067)
- AICW, Port Everglades to Miami and Biscayne Bay (Statute Mile 1067 to 1094)
EF LPG/CNG Availability
EF Chart View
- Northeastern Florida General
- Southeastern Florida General
- Fernandina Beach, FL
- Jacksonville, FL
- St. Augustine, FL
- Daytona Beach, FL
- New Smyrna Beach, FL
- Titusville, FL
- Cocoa, FL
- Melbourne, FL
- Vero Beach, FL
- Fort Pierce, FL
- Stuart, FL
- West Palm Beach, FL
- Fort Lauderdale, FL
- Miami, FL
Stat. Mile/Lat-Lon Chart View Search
EF Fuel Prices
St. Johns Fuel Prices
EF Bridge Schedules
St. Johns River Bridge Schedules
EF Anchoring Rights

FK All Cruising News
FK Regional Cruising News
- Inside/Florida Bay Passage, Dinner Key and Coconut Grove to Jewfish Creek (Statute Mile 1090 to 1134)
- Inside/Florida Bay Passage, Blackwater Sound to Tavernier Creek (Statute Mile 1134 to 1153)
- Hawk Channel, Government Cut Inlet to Tavernier Creek
- Inside/Florida Bay Passage. Cross Bank to Channel Five (Statute Mile 1153 to 1170)
- Hawk Channel, Tavernier Key to Channel Give
- Inside/Florida Bay Passage, Old Dan Bank to Moser Channel (Statute Mile 1170 1195)
- Hawk Channel, Long Key to Moser Channel
- Marathon and Boot Key Harbor
- Routes from Marathon and Channel Five to Cape Sable and Western Florida
- Back Route from Marathon to Key West
- Hawk Channel, Sombrero Key to Stock Island
- Key West
- Routes to the Dry Tortugas
FK Notice to Mariners
FK Anchorages
- All Anchorages
- Inside Passage, Dinner Key and Coconut Grove to Jewfish Creek
- Inside Passage, Blackwater Sound to Tavernier Creek
- Hawk Channel, Government Cut Inlet to Tavernier Creek
- Inside Passage, Cross Key Bank to Channel Five
- Hawk Channel, Tavernier Key to Channel Five
- Inside Passage, Old Dan Bank to Moser Channel
- Hawk Channel, Long Key to Moser Channel
- Marathon and Boot Key Harbor
- Back Route from Marathon to Key West
- Hawk Channel, Sombrero Key to Key West
- Key West
FK Marinas
- All Marinas
- SSECN Sponsoring Marinas
- Inside Passage, Dinner Key and Coconut Grove to Jewfish Creek
- Hawk Channel, Government Cut Inlet to Tavernier Creek
- Inside Passage, Key Largo to Vaca Cut
- Hawk Channel, Tavernier Key to Sister Creek
- Marathon and Boot Key Harbor
- Back Route from Marathon to Key West
- Hawk Channel, Sombrero Key to Key West
- Key West
FK LPG/CNG Availability
FK Chart View
- Florida Keys General
- Key Largo, FL
- Islamorada, FL
- Marathon, FL
- Key West, FL
Stat. Mile/Lat-Lon Chart View Search
FK Fuel Prices
FK Bridge Schedules
FK Anchoring Rights

WF All Cruising News
WF Regional Cruising News
- Cape Sable to Pavillion Key
- 10,000 Islands, Indian Key Pass and Everglades City
- Marco Island to Naples
- Gordon Pass to Fort Myers Beach
- Caloosahatchee River to Fort Myers (Statute Mile 150 to 135)
- ICW, Miserable Mile to Gasparilla Island (Statute Mile 0 to 34)
- Charlotte Harbor, Including Punta Gorda
- ICW, Placida Harbor to Venice (Statute Mile 34 to 57)
- ICW, Venice Pass to Anna Maria Island (Statute Mile 57 to 92)
- Tampa Bay (ICW Statute Mile 92 to 112)
- ICW, Boca Ciega Bay to Clearwater (Statute Mile 112 to 137)
- ICW, Dunedin to Anclote River Tarpon Springs (Statute Mile 137 to 150)
- Anclote Key to Dog Island and Carrabelle (Big Bend Region)
WF Local Notices and Nav Alerts
WF Anchorages
- Western Florida Anchorages
- Cape Sable to Pavillion Key
- 10,000 Islands, Indian Key Pass and Everglades City
- Marco Island to Naples
- Gordon Pass to Fort Myers Beach
- Caloosahatchee River to Fort Myers (Statute Mile 150 to 135)
- ICW, Miserable Mile to Gasparilla Island (Statute Mile 0 to 34)
- Charlotte Harbor, Including Punta Gorda
- ICW, Placida Harbor to Venice (Statute Mile 34 to 57)
- ICW, Venice Pass to Anna Maria Island (Statute Mile 57 to 92)
- Tampa Bay (ICW Statute Mile 92 to 112)
- ICW, Boca Ciega Bay to Clearwater (Statute Mile 112 to 137)
- ICW, Dunedin to Anclote River Tarpon Springs (Statute Mile 137 to 150)
- Anclote Key to Dog Island and Carrabelle (Big Bend Region)
WF Marinas
- All Marinas
- SSECN Sponsoring Marinas
- Cape Sable to Pavillion Key
- 10,000 Islands, Indian Key Pass and Everglades City
- Marco Island to Naples
- Gordon Pass to Fort Myers Beach
- Caloosahatchee River to Fort Myers (Statute Mile 150 to 135)
- ICW, Miserable Mile to Gasparilla Island (Statute Mile 0 to 34)
- Charlotte Harbor, Including Punta Gorda
- ICW, Placida Harbor to Venice (Statute Mile 34 to 57)
- ICW, Venice Pass to Anna Maria Island (Statute Mile 57 to 92)
- Tampa Bay (ICW Statute Mile 92 to 112)
- ICW, Boca Ciega Bay to Clearwater (Statute Mile 112 to 137)
- ICW, Dunedin to Anclote River Tarpon Springs (Statute Mile 137 to 150)
- Anclote Key to Dog Island and Carrabelle (Big Bend Region)
LPG/CNG Availability
WF Chart View
- Southwest Florida General
- Northwest Florida General
- Everglades City, FL
- Marco Island, FL
- Naples, FL
- Fort Myers Beach, FL
- Fort Myers, FL
- Boca Grande, FL
- Punta Gorda, FL
- Venice, FL
- Sarasota, FL
- Palmetto – Bradenton, FL
- St. Petersburg, FL
- Clearwater, FL
Stat. Mile/Lat-Lon Chart View Search
WF Fuel Prices
WF Bridge Schedules
WF Anchoring Rights

Okeechobee Cruising News
Okeechobee Nav. Alerts
Okeechobee Local Notices and Nav Alerts
Okeechobee Marinas
- All Marinas
- SSECN Sponsoring Marinas
- St. Lucie River
- Caloosahatchee River
Okeechobee Bridge Schedules
Okeechobee Waterway Fuel Prices
Stat. Mile/Lat-Lon Chart View Search

N. Gulf All Cruising News
N. Gulf Regional Cruising News
- ICW, Carrabelle Apalachicola (Statute Mile 375 to 350)
- ICW, Apalachicola to East Bay (Statute Mile 350 to 295)
- ICW, Panama City, Inlet and St Andrews Bay (Statute Mile 295 to 284.5)
- ICW, Hathaway Bridge to Pensacola Bay (Statute Mile 284.5 to 185)
- Pensacola Pensacola Inlet (NG ICW Statute Mile 185 to 179)
- ICW, Big Lagoon to Bon Secour Bay (Statute Mile 179 to 150)
- Mobile Bay and Mobile (NG ICW Statute Mile 150 to 127)
- ICW, Pas Aux Herons to the Rigolets (Statute Mile 127 to 35)
- Lake Pontchartrain New Orleans (NG ICW Statute Mile 35 to 0)
- Mississippi River to Grand Isle (NG ICW Statute Mile 0 to 15)
N. Gulf Local Notices and Nav Alerts
N. Gulf Marinas
N. Gulf Bridge Schedules
Stat. Mile/Lat-Lon Chart View Search

Bahamas Marinas - Sponsors
Bahamas Marinas – By Island
- Abaco
- Bimini
- Cat Island
- Eleuthera & Harbour Island
- Exuma
- Grand Bahama Island
- Long Island
- New Providence & Nassau
Bahamas Cruising News

NY Marinas

OH Marinas

PA Marinas

WA Marinas

PR Marinas

MN Marinas

MD Marinas

TN Marinas

Nov 29, 2011by: Larry Dorminy No Comments
Possible Height Discrepancy at Wabasso Bridge, AICW, Statute Mile 943
Wabasso Bridge-crosses the ICW at Statute Mile 943, southeast of unlighted daybeacon #80. Has anyone else noted less than charted vertical clearance as noted by Captain Mathias below. If so/not,please click the “Click Here to Submit Cruising News” link to the upper right, and share your information!
This bridge is not 65′. We are sitting at high tide and the board shows 63 1/4′ with a .48′ total tide.
Pete Mathias
We passed through Wabasso 8 November 2011 with no problem. Our mast is 64.5 with another 3′ for the VHF antenna. The board indicated 64.4, the antenna didn’t touch.
Della
Click Here To View the Cruisers’ Net’s Eastern Florida Marina Directory Listing For Wabasso Bridge
Click Here To Open A Chart View Window, Zoomed To the Location of Wabasso Bridge
Share:
Be the first to comment!

Do you ALREADY RECEIVE the Cruisers' Net Weekly Newsletter?

Do you want to SIGN UP to receive our Newsletter?

Possible Height Discrepancy at Wabasso Bridge, AICW, Statute Mile 943

Be the first to comment!

Latitude:	Longitude:
(Degrees/Decimal Degrees Format Only)

Do you ALREADY RECEIVE the Cruisers' Net Weekly Newsletter?

Do you want to SIGN UP to receive our Newsletter?

Possible Height Discrepancy at Wabasso Bridge, AICW, Statute Mile 943

Share:

Be the first to comment! Add Comment

Be the first to comment!