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Cruisers Net is honored to with this five-star, customer-focused, family owned and operated organization. Watermakers Air and Staniel Cay Yacht Club, A CRUISERS NET SPONSOR!, have been synonymous to so many over the past years. Success is the driving element to its expanded service to the Bahamas and to its re-branding as Makers Air. See FOCUS ON Makers Air – Destinations Made
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South Carolina may not be the longest stretch of the Atlantic Intracoastal Waterway (ICW), but it certainly holds one of the prettiest sections. Our thanks to Southern Exposure for this delightful article by Brandon Ferris.
Southern Charm – Explore South Carolina
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On Saturday, U.S. Coast Guard Sector Charleston issued a safety bulletin warning that a Russian spy ship has been “operating in an unsafe manner” off the U.S. eastern seaboard.
USCG Warns of “Unsafe” Russian Spy Ship
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Cruisers Net is so very grateful for Greg Allard’s willingness to share his vast experience with our readers. Inspired by one of Greg Allard’s several Letters from the Bahamas, Judye Reed wrote Cruisers Net asking Greg for advice on navigating the Bahamas. Here is Greg’s response.
In reply to Judye Reed.
Judye – One of the great advantages of being based in Florida is the relatively easy access to one of the greatest cruising grounds in the world: The Bahamas. To successfully navigate your boat to this international destination, you will need to do much more planning and preparation than you would for a local trip along the coast of Florida. That means a current version of electronic charts, and one or more of the Explorer Chartbooks, which are much more than just charts: they are loaded with information about cruising to the Bahamas, crossing the Florida Straits (Gulf Stream), and each location you may visit. There are three sets of Explorer Chartbooks, one for each geographic area of the Bahamas. Get the one(s) for where you are going.
With the horrendous damage Dorian inflicted on the Abacos – a traditional destination for first-timers and veteran cruisers – most of the Abacos is no longer an option for the immediate future, since facilities are non-existent in many places.
From St. Pete, your first decision will be whether to cross to the east coast of Florida via the Okeechobee, or to go down through the Keys. The Okeechobee option requires sufficient water depth along “Navigation Route 1” (which changes daily), something you can find in the on-line reporting by the U.S. Army Corp of Engineers. w3.saj.usace.army.mil/h2o/c#835
Don’t bite off more than you can chew. If you cruise your boat at 20 knots, a passage from Lake Worth inlet to West End on Grand Bahama will take about three hours. Reports are that West End is fully open after Dorian. The other regular crossing route to the Bahamas is from Miami/Ft. Lauderdale to Bimini. The Miami run is about 45 nautical miles.
A general rule about crossing the Florida Straits to the Bahamas: Don’t go if there are any winds with a north component: the 2-3+ knot northward flow of the Gulf Stream, pushing against any opposing winds from the north, creates standing waves which can be nasty.
Wherever possible, we try to limit our passages to five hours a day, but we travel at 10 knots. There is no point, on your first trip to the Bahamas, of doing long grueling runs.
Look at each leg for a few things: 1) Weather (the most important one), 2) What facilities will you need at the destination? If you want to anchor, are there good, protected anchorages? Do you want to dock at a marina? If so, you should call ahead to be certain there is an opening for you. 3) Distance? Don’t plan on a four hour run and then leave at 2:00 PM. If you encounter trouble of any sort, you’ll have a good bit of daylight to sort things out. Depart early in the morning.
Never leave for the next destination if the weather is bad, or even doubtful. We review the weather several times a day. Here’s a link to an article on Cruisers Net, which I published: “Weather Resources for Cruisers.”
https://cruisersnet.net/weather-resources-for-cruisers-by-greg-allard/
You say that you are looking for another boat to travel with. That can be good, but some people who do that rely on “the other boat” to tell them when and where to go. To go to the Bahamas, you need to be totally self-reliant. Plan ahead, study the charts, review the weather.
“Buddy Boating” – traveling with one or several boats, often gives cruisers false reliance; they depend on someone else to make the decisions for them. We do travel with another boat on occasion, but we have a clear understanding between us, especially on open water passages, that we are basically there for each other to “rescue the survivors.” We can’t swim over to the other boat in 3′ seas to help with a mechanical problem; we can’t (and won’t) tow the other boat; we can’t help them put out a fire. And if you have to constantly communicate with the other boat for directions, depths, etc., you have not done your preparation, and you shouldn’t be out there.
I don’t mean to discourage you from traveling with another boat, which can be fun; you should just be certain to do your planning – and make your decisions – as if you were the only boat going.
Start with ordering and reading from cover to cover the Explorer Chartbooks for the areas you want to visit. If you study them, you will know more than 90% of first-timers who go to the Bahamas. This site, Cruisers Net, has several articles and much information about Bahamas cruising, the Okeechobee crossing, etc. It’s easy to search for that helpful information.
Another publication, Southwinds, also has a number of articles with practical information about Bahamas cruising. Here’s the link:
https://southwindsmagazine.com/cruising-the-bahamas/
If you are looking for another boat to travel with, you can post your plans here on Cruisers’ Net, on the Explorer Chartbook site, or on any other cruisers’ forum. You may find that it is difficult to coordinate your departure times with other boats, but it is worth a try. By the way, the months of May & June are the best months to go.
Have a good trip!
Greg Allard
Our thanks to James H. Newsome of Save Georgia’s Anchorages, a group whose aim is to prevent unreasonable restriction to Georgia’s anchorages. See Anchoring Restrictions in Georgia.
Much thanks for Larry and Cruisers Net for publicizing the ongoing issue with infringement on anchoring rights in Georgia. Please visit Save Georgia’s Anchorages on Facebook for the latest news in our efforts to have HB201 rewritten in the next legislative session starting in January.
Since publication of proposed rules for HB201 in late May, many individuals and boating groups have voiced strong opposition to the intent of the law and subsequent rules. Following a public meeting in June, a record number of public comments submitted to GA’s Coastal Resource Division of DNR, and a Stakeholders’ Meeting at CRD headquarters in Brunswick in late July, it became apparent that changes were needed in HB201. Following weeks of review and exchange of ideas between several boating stakeholder groups and individuals, areas of concern in HB201 were identified and suggested revisions were developed.
Stakeholders representing Waterway Guide, a coalition of membership organizations (including America’s Great Loop Cruisers’ Association (AGLCA), Seven Seas Cruising Association (SSCA), Marine Trawler Owners’ Association (MTOA), and Defever Cruisers), National Marine Manufacturers Association (NMMA), and Save Georgia’s Anchorages contributed to the Suggested Revisions for GA’s Anchoring Law – HB201.
This document was submitted to key GA legislators, DNR Commissioner Williams, and Coastal Resource Division Director Haymans in November, and now has been sent to the Legislative Council for review and to be drawn into a bill for submittal to the 2020 General Assembly.
A complete copy of the Suggested Revisions for GA’s Anchoring Law is now uploaded to files here on Save Georgia’s Anchorages for your review.
While we do not know what changes will be made in the final bill, we are pleased that GA legislators, DNR Board members, DNR Commissioner Williams and Director Haymans are working with us to find a solution to the problems in HB201.
And a special thanks is extended to GA Representative Ron Stephens from Savannah District 164 who has been instrumental in helping our coalition of boating groups move this process through the negotiation and filing process. Representative Stephens is also a Great Loop Cruiser.
We will keep members informed here on SGA when any developments arise. Please visit https://www.facebook.com/groups/SaveGeorgiasAnchorages/ where you can download a complete copy of Suggested Revisions to Georgia’s Anchoring Law, HB201.
Tremendous work James
Thank you James H. Newsome. This is what anchoring is all about.
Stunning photo, James! Great composition.
Most marinas in Panama City and St. Andrews were destroyed during Hurricane Michael leaving little option for dockage. See Updates. Our thanks to AGLCA Loopers Dwight Pierce, Eric Lambert, Jack Nickerson and Larry McCullough for sharing their recent anchoring experiences in the area. Location details for the anchorings are very general and as you will see on the chart, there are no Cruisers Net anchorages marked, but if you are adventuresome, as were these Loopers, anchoring is possible near Panama City.
I went in pass from gulf and went East in the bay apx 2 miles behind shell island and anchored about 100 yards off island. Depths seemed to match my Navionics pretty good. We draft 5’ 4”. Dinghy to shell island and walk beach. Very beautiful beach. We did have a north wind leaving us exposed but it was not too bad at anchor.
Dwight Pierce
When we went through Panama City back in June we anchored in Pearl Bayou whic was recommended by several fellow loopers. The Anchorage is very protected, in fact we arrived just before a rough thunderstorm with very strong winds and were glad to be in this protected area. The depths were 10’-15’ in the bayou. An easy dinghy ride to shore got us to a park that is actually part of Tyndal AFB. Unfortunately, there is not much within a walkable distance to this anchorage. We were fortunate to have a cousin who is stationed at Tyndal to pick us up and drive us around town.
Eric Lambert
Panana City is one of the topics we cover at docktails each night. Pirates Cove and Lighthouse (one call covers both) & CSS Yacht Basin have been taking transits. St Andrew,s Marina has fuel only no slips. We recommend Pearl Bayou as the almost perfect anchorage. 360 deg protection, plenty of depth, room for 20 boats, good access to shore for dogs and well marked entrance. 56 miles for our slip to Pearl. 3 easy travel days here to Carrabelle.
Jack Nickerson
I agree with Aquaholic, Pearl Bayou is a great anchorage. We were there last month and could not have asked for a better spot after a long day. Plenty of water and even with 4 other boats we had plenty of swing room. Great holding in very sticky mud. Bonus of seeing a few F-35 buzzing overhead but all quiet after a beautiful sunset.
Larry McCullough
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As posted on AGLCA’s Forum by Director Kim Russo. Your donation is needed! Even if you always dock in a marina and never anchor out, keeping anchorages open helps insure dock space for you. Cruisers Net is proud to be a sponsor of America’s Great Loop Cruisers’ Association.
Our plan to retain the services of our Florida lobbyist for 2020 is in jeopardy. So far, contributions to fund this effort have been far below previous years. We know the holiday season is probably the worst time to make this request. Boaters’ attention is elsewhere, and budgets are tight. But now is the time to confirm that we can afford the services of our lobbyist for next year.
For our newer members, or those who would like a reminder, following is a recap of the past few years in Florida where boaters’ rights to anchor have been challenged.
History:
For several years, anchorages have been under attack in Florida. Sometimes, the efforts to eliminate anchorages are led by waterfront home owners who prefer not to have boats anchored in the waterways outside their homes. More often, however, responsible boaters are caught up in the “derelict vessels” issue, which is a serious problem in Florida. Municipalities are attempting to solve the derelict vessel problem by banning anchoring altogether, thinking that doing so will make it easier to rid their area of abandoned boats and/or those anchored with no intention (nor ability, in many cases) of ever moving. This approach is obviously detrimental to active cruisers.
In 2015 a bill was filed to ban anchoring within 200 feet of developed waterfront property in Florida. Cruisers were successful in defeating that bill, in part due to the efforts of our coalition and our retained lobbyist.
In 2016, thinking the need for our engagement was over, the boating community did not actively participate in the process in Tallahassee. With no one actively opposing it, a bill passed that closed four areas in the Miami/Fort Lauderdale area to overnight anchoring.
Because of the failure in 2016, our coalition re-engaged in 2017 and was successful in keeping the power to regulate anchoring with the state government, rather than municipalities. This was an important win because it prevents a patchwork of laws from being passed by various municipalities and counties. Further, no new anchorages were added to the list of those where overnight anchoring is prohibited.
In 2018, an amendment to restrict overnight anchoring in two more anchorages was attached to a bill, but we were successful in getting the amendment withdrawn from the bill before a vote was taken.
In 2019, thanks in part to our lobbyist’s efforts, no bills were filed that would further restrict anchoring.
Expectations for the 2020 Legislative Session:
We are expecting the legislative delegates representing several additional municipalities to once again try to amend the existing statute to add their anchorages to the list of those that are closed to overnight anchoring. Attempts by Madeira Beach to sidestep the state’s regulation of anchorages earlier this year met resistance from boaters and our lobbyist who noted that the city does not have the power to do so. That municipality could move that fight to the proper venue–the state level–and request to be added to the list of places where overnight anchoring is banned. Some municipalities have perennially had their legislative delegation file bills to eliminate overnight anchoring in their waters, and without opposition from boaters, they may be successful in 2020. In addition, cities not previously active in this on-going debate, who now have new representatives in Tallahassee, have already made known their desire to rid certain areas of boats at anchor. We must remain vigilant or we face losing the right to anchor in additional areas.
Our overall goal is to find a compromise so that this level of effort, and the associated funds, are not required year after year. We are not there yet, but there are some ideas on the table, and stakeholders are engaged in the process in advance of the 2020 legislative session to talk about the possibilities. We are hopeful that this year could be a turning point if we can afford to remain highly involved.
The most successful way to have our voices heard and to get results has been representation by a lobbyist who knows the ins-and-outs of the legislative process in Florida. The lobbyist that has represented your interests in the past has been very successful. But, of course, there is a cost associated with his efforts. We hope that once again those costs can be shared among our full coalition, which includes Marine Trawler Owners Association (MTOA), America’s Great Loop Cruisers’ Association (AGLCA), Seven Seas Cruising Association (SSCA), and the DeFever Cruisers.
What We Need from Cruisers:
We are asking for contributions to help fund our advocacy efforts. Last year, boaters were generous. About $8,000 remains from our coalition’s 2019 call for funding. We estimate needing an additional $20,000 for the 2020 legislative session.
AGLCA does not use membership dues to support advocacy. We are active advocates for our members in many ways, but we handle most issues with staff time and expertise, and grass-roots efforts from our members when needed. However, Florida is a bell-weather state that has a strong influence on other states’ boating laws, so we believe action is required here. We know that there are some of you who may not be interested in this issue and therefore, we have not opted for a small increase in across-the-board dues to fund this effort. Instead, we’ve taken the approach of asking our members to contribute individually to specific issues when needed and we leave it up to each of you to decide whether to participate.
If the funds collected exceed what is needed to engage our Lobbyist, the remainder of AGLCA member contributions will be held by the Association to help offset travel costs for members and staff who go to Tallahassee to participate in the process. The remaining excess, if it exists, will be held for use on future advocacy efforts. Please click below to contribute.
Boaters’ Rights Advocacy Fund-2020
Thank you in advance!
-Kim
Kim Russo
Director
America’s Great Loop Cruisers’ Association
krusso@greatloop.org
You are fighting the wrong battle. It is not anchoring that is at issue. The issue is derelict boats anchoring. Do yourself and boaters a favor and draft a thoughtful bill that you can present to the legislature that will eliminate the problem of derelict boats. This way you won't have to fight this battle every year.
Our thanks to Looper David Heinsohn for these kind words, as posted on AGLCA’s Forum, for two stalwarts of Southport Marina, a longtime CRUISERS NET SPONSOR. This Cruisers Net editor has been profiting from the advice and wisdom of Robert and Hank for years!
Mollie, with Chris and I stopped at Southport Marina, in Southport,
NC this afternoon. What a wonderful and surprising stop.
Robert Creech: We attended the Joe Wheeler Rendezvous, in October. I
attended both of Robert’s Briefs. They were great. As a Harbor Host,
before we started south, I asked him to make some suggestions for us on
our passage as first timers, from Portsmouth, VA to Jacksonville. He
offered up some good suggestions. We’ve not followed all of them, but
they’ve certainly been valuable.
The day before our arrival in Southport, I called to warn him we were
expecting to be in town the next day. We talked about some problems we
were having with the boat. As we were arriving on a Saturday, he offered
to do a bit of boat part shopping for us. What a relief! Then I got to
spend some quality time on his front porch swapping lies, err I mean Sea
Stories, err that is chatting.
If you’re coming through be sure to let him know you’re coming so he
can at least say hi.
Hank: The folks at the marina told us about a weather and route briefing
that happens every night at the marina. The briefing is put on by Hank.
Sorry I don’t have his last name, my bad. The brief is also sponsored by
the Southport Marina, Carolina Yacht Care, and Zimmerman Marine. Robert
also told us about it.
For two hours Hank provided detailed information about the weather
going south from here and known problem areas along the AICW. Included
was a take home printout of all the slides so you don’t need to take
notes. This was a very detailed brief, with lots of valuable
information. That slide printout will be in the cockpit with us until we
reach Savanna.
A thank you to Hank and all of the sponsors for their work on this
project.
Bottom line, we’ll be stopping in Southport again on our northbound
trip if at all possible. Might even spend a couple of days as it sounds
like there’s some good food to be had nearby as well.
David
M/V Mollie
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Yep- two great guys!
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