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    • Please Help Captain Pat in Oriental, NC (Statute Mile 181)

      As reported here earlier on the Salty Southeast Cruisers’ Net (see /?p=125276), the controversy over at least one long-time resident of the Oriental anchorage took a bizarre turn when one of the managers at the nearby Inland Waterway Provision Company, Captain Pat Stockwell, out of the goodness of his heart, cashed a check for the “boat owner” in question for $2,980.42. The check turned out to be bad.
      SSECN strategic partners, Captains Diana and Mark Doyle, founders and owners of “On The Water ChartGuides” (http://www.onthewaterchartguides.com/), hatched the commendable plan of “passing the hat” during the recent Hampton Snowbird Rendezvous, to help defray Captain Stockwell’s loss.
      WE THINK THIS IS A GREAT IDEA, AND THE SSECN HAS KICKED IN $50.00. We urge other members of the cruising community to contribute whatever might be within their abilities (see below)!

      The Hampton Snowbird Rendezvous passed the sea boot around this week and collected $400 for Pat.
      That’s what rendezvous are all about, cruisers helping cruisers. Whether sharing information, matching up buddy boats, leveraging the intelligence and expertise of the group to inspect rigs, repair refrigeration, or shake down SSBs … it’s great to make sure that the innocent aren’t punished and the kind taken advantage of and forgotten.
      Pat Stockwell is everyone on the ICW’s buddy and shouldn’t feel embarrassed about trying to help out one of the cruising family. We’re all in that family also.
      Folks, please consider sending $5 or $10 to: Pat Stockwell, Inland Waterway Provision Company, 305 Hodges Street, POB 466, Oriental, NC 28571.
      Stay in the deep water,
      Mark

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    • Newest ACOE Survey of AICW Problem Stretch north of Ben Sawyer Bridge, Statute Mile 460

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      The Salty Southeast Cruisers’ Net has posted reports of shoaling in this Problem Stretch (which the ACOE terms as “behind Breach Inlet”) for months now. (see /?p=120335). Our thanks to the US Army Corps of Engineers in Charleston, SC for providing SSECN with the newest (October, 2013) survey of this Problem Stretch. Once again, the Salty Southeast Cruisers’ Net is honored to be the FIRST means by which the US Army Corps of Engineers chose to get this critical information into the hands of the cruising community.
      By looking closely at the area in the center of the survey, hard by Marker #117A opposite Swinton Creek, you can see MLWW corrected depths of AS LITTLE AS .2 FEET ON THE SOUTHERN (SOUTHEASTERN) TIER OF THE WATERWAY CHANNEL, and even the northern section, which has always been the deeper part, MLW soundings can run to only 4.2 ft depths.
      Need we say it, cruisers piloting craft of almost any draft MUST time their passage of these waters for mid to high tide!

      Click Here To View the Cruisers’ Net’s “AICW Problem Stretches” Listing For the AICW North of Ben Sawyer Bridge to Isle of Palms Bridge

      Click Here To Open A Chart View Window, Zoomed To This AICW Problem Stretch

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    • Praise for Salty Southeast Cruisers’ Net!

      Pardon us while we pat ourselves on the back, or least, Capt. Lindberg does it for us. We welcome the Lindbergs to the wonderful fellowship of the cruising community – the finest people on earth!

      My husband and I are `new’ sailors ‘“ We feel in love with sailing 2 years ago and have not looked back. As such I pour through everything and anything to do with sailing, to prepare for our full time cruising in 5 years. This website is absolutely the BEST. It gives me current information that I would not get out of cruising books or magazines, along with links to almost any info I would need. To all the staff: Thank you so much ‘“ you now have a dedicated new `almost’ full time cruiser.
      Brenda Lindberg

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    • Reports from Little Shark River Anchorage, South of Marco Island, SW Florida Coastline

      Mouth of Little Shark River - Click for Chartview

      Little Shark River is an interesting, but sometimes very buggy anchorage that lies well south of Everglades City and a short hop north of Cape Sable. It is one of the most backwater cruising possibilities in all of Florida.
      Just don’t try anchoring here on a still, summer night, or even in October, as Captain Luby relates. The little guys will come out, pick your boat up, and consume it in the nearby marsh! The SSECN recommends three Little Shark River anchorages in our Western Florida Anchorage Directory, but there are actually several dozen spots you might choose to drop the hook.

      Anchored here Oct 2013 and it was fascinatingly beautiful. Though the water is black and nothing much visible below the surface, there were many creatures jumping. One very large creature would surface making a large splash but we could never see what it was ‘“ thinking it would be manatees surfacing. We were alone this night and it was incredibly peaceful and the sky was incredible with billions of stars and no ambient light. Bugs were fierce after dark and cutters held most at bay but a few got through. Hatch screens a must here if you want to sleep. Recommend this as interim between Marathon and Marco areas. Depths going in and out were fine. A little challenging to locate by eyesight so the GPS was required to find it. Have fun.
      Jim Luby

      `A little buggy’ is quite the understatement. This is a fantastic anchorage . . . in January, February. Otherwise it’s mosquito hell.
      Ed Robinson

      We were there on August 10, 2013 with one other boat for one night and had nearly zero bugs. I suppose it was because we had a 15 to 20 knot wind just about the entire time. We had a few of the big horsefly type flies, but nothing else. I suppose we were just lucky, but we were prepared none the less. I was actually able to cook a pork loin on the grill outside without any issues. This is REMOTE and a really fine anchorage ‘“ well protected in just about any direction as long as you choose your spot wisely. A west or southwest wind might be a problem, but when we were there the wind was out of the east. It even has a marker to help you find it, but I would recommend GPS as the coast looks pretty much the same all around. Don’t confuse the larger Shark River just north of here ‘“ it does not have much protection. We had a few fishermen come by in small boats before dark, but after dark, it was dead quiet and VERY dark with zero ambient light. It is strategically located just about the halfway point between Marco and the Keys. I highly recommend this anchorage.
      Dave Fuller

      In the past, we had to hug the shore away from Fl G’1’³ at the entrance to the Little Shark River, as the shoaling came out into the channel there. Not sure what the current conditions would be.
      Our first visit to Little Shark was during a 50K/12’ seas blow. The conditions inside were `severe calm’. A Great Anchorage!
      Nils Pearson `Fairwinds’

      Click Here To View the Western Florida Cruisers’ Net Anchorage Directory Listing For the Little Shark River Outer Anchorage

      Click Here To Open A Chart View Window, Zoomed To the Location of the Little Shark River Outer Anchorage

      Click Here To View the Western Florida Cruisers’ Net Anchorage Directory Listing For the Little Shark River Southern Fork Anchorage

      Click Here To Open A Chart View Window, Zoomed To the Location of the Little Shark River Southern Fork Anchorage

      Click Here To View the Western Florida Cruisers’ Net Anchorage Directory Listing For the Little Shark River Upper Anchorage

      Click Here To Open A Chart View Window, Zoomed To the Location of the Little Shark River Upper Anchorage

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    • Corps Announces More Restrictive Operating Times at Moore Haven Lock, Okeechobee Statute Mile 78


      Moore Haven Lock - Click for Chartview

      Moore Haven Lock is located at Okeechobee Waterway Statute Mile 78, hard by the Moore Haven waterfront. This notice is from the Jacksonville District of the USACE.

      Posted 10/19/2013
      Release no. 13-088
      Contact
      John Campbell
      904-232-1004
      john.h.campbell@usace.army.mil

      The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, Jacksonville District has announced changes in operations at the Moore Haven Lock that will take effect next week.
      The changes affect lock operations on Wednesdays and Thursday in Moore Haven. The locks will open at 8 a.m. and close at 5 p.m. Lockages will only take place every two hours, at 8 a.m.,10 a.m., noon, 2 p.m., and 4 p.m. with the final lockage at 5 p.m. The locks will continue to operate from 7 a.m. ‘“ 7 p.m. the other five days of the week. The changes will take effective on Oct. 23.
      `This adjustment is being made to accommodate a change in the staffing pattern at Moore Haven Lock,’ said Tim Murphy, Assistant Chief of Jacksonville District’s Operations Division. `Our intent is to implement this change in a manner that causes the least inconvenience to those who navigate through the Moore Haven Lock.’
      Moore Haven Lock was constructed in 1935 for navigation and flood control purposes. It is the third lock from the west on the 152-mile Okeechobee Waterway, which allows safe passage of vessels from the Gulf of Mexico at Fort Myers to the Atlantic Ocean near Stuart. It is located in Moore Haven on the western side of Lake Okeechobee.
      A Notice to Navigation has been issued on this subject. For more information on navigation notices concerning Ortona Lock or the rest of the Okeechobee Waterway, please visit the following website:

      http://www.saj.usace.army.mil/Missions/CivilWorks/Navigation/NoticestoNavigation.aspx

      Click Here To View the Okeechobee Cruisers’ Net Bridge Directory Listing For Moore Haven Lock

      Click Here To Open A Chart View Window, Zoomed To the Location of Moore Haven Lock

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    • Good Depths through AICW Statute Mile 52, North River, south of Coinjock, NC

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      Captain Kipnis brings good news in response to a Navigation Alert for shoaling in the North River (/?p=104373) that we posted last December, 2012.

      Didn’t see less than 11.8′ mid channel between Red 128 and the new floating G129.
      Barry Kipnis

      Click Here To Open A Chart View Window, Zoomed To A “Navigation Alert” Position at North Carolina Cut

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    • Dockside Yacht Club Off-Limits to Transients, Morehead City, NC, AICW Statute Mile 205

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      A phone call to Dockside Yacht Club confirmed that transients are no longer welcome at their docks. Our thanks to Captain Land for bringing this change of policy to our attention.

      Forget this yacht club in Morehead City, NC as they no longer allow transient docking and threaten arrest if anyone dares to pull up to their docks. There are elementary magic marker signs posted everywhere with threats of arrest for trespassing.
      Jackson Land

      Click Here To Open A Chart View Window, Zoomed To the Location of Dockside Yacht Club

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      1. Bill Achtenbereg -  July 6, 2020 - 4:08 pm

        Dockside Yacht Club is a private marina. Each slip is assigned to a member of the club and is part owner of the marina. The club no longer owns any slips which is why there are no transient slips anymore. There are transient slips available nearby at Morehead Yacht Basin, Town Creek Marina, Homer Smiths, Morehead City Docks and Beaufort City Docks.

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    • Duckweed Largely Cleared at Both Locks and On Dismal Swamp Canal AICW Alternate Route

      Set in beautiful Camden Count, NC, the Dismal Swamp Canal Welcome Center provides free dockage for cruisers' on the Dismal Swamp AICW Alternate Route Our thanks to Director Stewart of the Dismal Swamp Canal Welcome Center (A SALTY SOUTHEAST CRUISERS’ NET SPONSOR) for this update and photos below. For earlier photos, see /?p=124791. And we remind you of the “Event Along the Waterway” scheduled for this coming weekend /?p=120878

      As many of you may have heard there is Duckweed in the northern part of the Canal. I wanted you share with you although you must come through the Deep Creek lock to get here, we are clear. I have a boater who had problems after locking through on Saturday and ended up being towed here to our dock on Sunday.
      I do believe the folks on the north end are doing everything they can to try to alleviate the problem. I know Robert has relayed they have had challenges. My boaters who had come through heading south last week stated they got out of the weed at about mm14. But we did have 5 boats come through earlier today and our stranded boater talked to 5 of them. He said only one stated an issue with having to clean his strainer’¦’¦..I don’t know what to say, other than I would suggest you contact the Deep Creek lock for their status. Our South Mills lockmaster says he is clear as we are and we took these photos this afternoon (after Tom Hale called) to verify we are clear as well. I called Elizabeth City yesterday to see if they had complaints outside of the South Mills lock to ECity, but Susan reported she had not received any reports of problems. I’ll try to see if one of our boaters here tonight will call me and advise me of the conditions as they head south.
      If we receive further useful information, I’ll let you know.
      Donna Stewart, Director
      Dismal Swamp Welcome Center
      2356 US Hwy 17N
      South Mills, NC 27976
      Phone ~ 252-771-8333
      www.DismalSwampWelcomeCenter.com

      10/18/2013
      We had several boats come in yesterday afternoon and were expecting four more after we left at 5pm. The boaters I spoke to said they had no issues locking at the north. Charlotte Underwood at the Elizabeth City CVB also asked her boaters about the trip from the South Mills lock to ECity and they reported no problems. This is what I’ve heard so far. Thanks for trying to keep all informed. Robert was not working at the lock yesterday, but the lockmaster on duty said he felt they were back to normal. I’ll try to check on the status when I go in this am.
      Donna

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    • Michael Ahart, “Waterway Guide News Editor” Shares Editorial on the Magenta Line Issue

      With special permission from Captain Michael Ahart, News Editor for our respected and respectful competitor, “Waterway Guide,” (http://www.waterwayguide.com/) we are very pleased to share with the cruising community his extremely well thought through, insightful editorial on the entire “Magenta Line” issue.
      Many thanks Captain Michael. You are a true class act!

      Here’s my “short” version, and the gist of my comments to NOAA Coast Survey. I’m trying to get support for a “dashed line” to depict sections that change often or have frequent shoaling issues. This is my personal opinion and does not necessarily match the opinions or policies of Waterway Guide, or its management or other editors.

      I think that removing the Magenta Line will cause many more groundings.

      A skipper should know better than to blindly follow any single `input’ ‘“ and certainly should follow what the nav aids and the water is telling him/her. I think that skippers treat the line as the `general route’ rather than a specific path — or at least do so after a grounding or two. However, in most sections the Magenta Line correctly depicts the navigable channel as it has been for decades. It also shows an arcing route from nav aid to nav aid where appropriate. A little research in any guidebook or cruiser’s website will alert boaters to the problem spots, and the charts could also depict these problem and shifting areas with a dashed line. (If you were following the Magenta Line on your chart and it changed into a dashed line, wouldn’t you say `hmmm’¦I wonder why it’s dashed here.)

      It would be great if every skipper knew exactly what they were doing all of the time, but the ICWs are really the proving grounds for new cruisers ‘“ and the monotony can throw even old salts off their guard. Without the Magenta Line, many skippers will `miss the turn’ — perhaps steering the vessel to a dangerous ocean inlet, or just up the wrong creek’¦one that’s likely not ever surveyed or dredged, and certainly not monitored by the cruising community. Getting stuck far off the beaten path can mean long delays in getting assistance, especially from other cruisers — but also from tow services. (Remember: The markers have those tiny, easy to miss triangles and squares denoting the ICW, but the charts do NOT.)

      I am also concerned that the removal of the Magenta Line may lower the already low priority of maintaining many sections of the ICW, especially in an environment of reduced federal and state funds competing with an urgent need for the deepening and maintenance of commercial channels to accommodate `Post-Panamax’ cargo vessels.

      Be sure to register your opinion by Dec. 26 with the Coast Survey whether you think the Magenta Line should stay or go.

      Also — regardless of your opinion on this topic, it is very important for the boating public, trade groups, businesses, advocacy groups, and municipalities along the waterway to join together to help our representatives understand how much the ICW means to the economies of these towns, states, and the nation. This historical waterway should be maintained for posterity, and should no longer be treated as an ad-hoc project without clear jurisdiction or priority.

      Send your comments to NOAA Coast Survey at CoastSurveyCommunications@noaa.gov. Here’s the official notice:
      https://www.federalregister.gov/articles/2013/09/26/2013-23440/intracoastal-wate
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    • Shallow Water Confirmed at Entrance to Snake Creek From Hawk Channel, Florida Keys, near Islamorada

      Snake Creek - Click for Chartview

      For several years now, there’s been a concern about MLW depths on the Hawk Channel side of the Snake Creek Channel. (See /?p=105412) The shallow water is a real problem, as Snake Creek is the only really reliable route for cruising sized craft to cruise from the Florida Keys Inside Route to Hawk Channel, or the other way around, between Angelfish Creek and Channel Five. Captain Robinson’s observations confirm that shallow depths reported earlier are still present.

      Went out with a handheld depthsounder yesterday Oct. 6, 2013 at 3:00 pm, one hour before low tide and measured 4.5′ on the hawk channel side just before the channel where the chart reads 4′. Measured 6′ on the bayside next to each of the red markers at 3:30 PM.
      Jules Robinson

      Snake Creek has been this shallow for years. Any sailing cruisers should be using Channel Five and never attempt Snake Creek.
      Jim

      Click Here To Open A Chart View Window, Zoomed To the Location of Snake Creek

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