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    • A Possible AICW/St. Andrew Sound Shortcut (near Statute Mile 690)

      Image Courtesy of Jim and Peg Healy

      One of the most discussed topics here on the SSECN concerning the Georgia portion of the AICW for the past two years, has been the passage through St. Andrew Sound, south of Brunswick, GA and Jekyll Island. First of all, to follow the Waterway, you must journey rather far out into the Atlantic Ocean, and, if that weren’t cause enough for concern, there are marker numbering issues and shoaling near marker #32 to worry with. We have had an SSECN Navigational Alert in place for this portion of the Waterway since 8/10/12 (see /?p=104973).
      Of course, there is a “way around” this difficult passage. Cruisers can opt for the so-called, “Umbrella Cut” alternate route, BUT this passage adds length to your cruise, and most importantly, it is narrow and SHALLOW in places at low water.
      In regards to the posting below from Captains Jim and Peg Healy, their message conveys an intriguing alternative. On the one hand, it avoids the shallow depths, of the Umbrella Cut Alternate AICW route, and it also bypasses the long cruise seaward to marker #32. And, Captains Jim and Peg are highly experienced cruisers who have a knack and a reputation for delivering accurate information.
      HOWEVER, there is NO guarantee that the eastern tip of Horseshoe Shoal will not have built farther to the east by the time of your transit, and it is certainly possible that you might encounter shallower depths than what Jim and Peg, or the NOAA charts, report.
      Therefore, we advise that ONLY adventurous mariners, and those whose vessel is equipped with a well functioning GPS chart plotter, undertake this shortcut, and, even then, be sure to proceed with the greatest caution!

      Attached is a screen shot of what we do in transiting St. Andrews Sound. Sanctuary draws 4-1/4′ and we find this route carries 7′ or more at low tide. The red lines on the screen shot are various transits of St. Andrews Sound before we established the black “route” in 2009. There are several more tracks buried under the route line.
      You can see that we went all the way out to R32 one time, early on. Too rough. We don’t do that any more.
      Peg and Jim Healy aboard Sanctuary

      And some additional data just received from Jim and Peg:

      So, anyway, here’s some additional info for our previous message. The date of the red GPS track line for our trip out past R “32” on the .jpg I sent you yesterday is April 9, 2007. For the other red track lines – those that “short-cut” across Horseshoe Shoal – dates were: April 23, 2008, May 16, 2009, November 9, 2011, April 24, 2012, November 27, 2012 and April 24, 2013. This gives you some season-to-season and year-to-year history on that track across the tail of Horseshoe Shoal.
      Peg and Jim Healy aboard Sanctuary

      Hi Capt.’s,
      We have taken your route in our sail boat and now our trawler, both draw 4 ft. since we first saw it recorded. Don’t recall when? Last time was four crossings in May and two in June 2013. The Floyd Creek, Umbarella Cut will work. We have never used it in our trawler but have taken the dingy, an 11 ft Boston Whaler to survey the creek. The cuts are hard to follow at high tide and do have skinny water in several places. The path you advise still is not for the faint of heart if the wind is out of the East and over 15 KTS. Watch the tide and stay safe.
      Sonny Reeves

      Unless seriously constrained by draft or schedule, a 6 kt boat passing through Jekyll Creek at high tide can cross the outer end of Horseshoe Shoal well to the west of both #31 and #32. We made our first transit of this area 30 minutes after high tide at the Jekyll Marina Station and never saw less than 12 feet on the shoal with wave conditions moderated.
      Heading south, when the magenta line crossed Latitude 31 on the chart, we turned for the old tower on Little Cumberland Island. When the water depth plummeted (west of #32 by 0.6 nm) we turned to intercept the magenta line off #33. This became our standard route.
      Caveat, we are unhurried cruisers with 5.5 foot draft. We arrange our days to pass Jekyll, Crooked River, Amelia River # 1, and Sawmill Creek #49, each, an hour before high tide.
      Chris & Janet

      Click Here To Open A Chart View Window, Zoomed To the Location of the AICW/St. Andrew Sound Channel

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    • More on Alternate Route Around Georgia’s St. Andrew Sound, AICW Statute Miles 686 to 696

      Umbrella Cut - Click for Chartview

      Floyd Creek - Click for Chartview

      Captain Yost’s comments were prompted by a discussion of markers in St. Andrew Sound on the AGLCA Forum [ /?p=118925 ]. The alternate route he mentions is the Umbrella Cut Route which takes you northbound from Mile 696 in Cumberland River through Floyd Creek, across the Satilla River and into the Little Satilla to rejoin the AICW at Mile 686 in Jekyll Sound. This is often considered the route of choice when the primary Waterway route through St. Andrew Sound is kicking up. If southbound, do NOT confuse Umbrella Cut with Umbrella Creek where severe shoaling has occurred.

      We just came southbound through this area and took the inside route through Floyd Creek. It was a falling tide, about half way down. We draw 4ft. Made this decision because the tide was outgoing and the wind was strong S and SE which meant wind against the current in the sound and we would have been broadside to the waves for about an hour. Made it through the inside Floyd Creek route without incident. The worst part was at red “A8” at the turn off of Umbrella Creek.
      Ralph Yost

      Click Here To View An Earlier Posting on Umbrella Cut

      Click Here To Open A Chart View Window, Zoomed To the Location of Northern End of Umbrella Cut

      Click Here To Open A Chart View Window, Zoomed To the Location of Floyd Cut

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    • Advice for Navigating AICW/Cumberland Dividings Problem Stretch and Brickhill River, Statute Miles 696-704

      Cumberland Dividings - Click for Chartview

      The Brickhill makes a pleasant, parallel detour east of the Waterway, with a north departure at Waterway marker #40 and rejoining the Waterway at Cumberland Dividings, markers #62 and #63. Captain Conrad’s advice on entering the Brickhill refers to the southern entrance. Cumberland Dividings has been a Problem Stretch for several years due to constantly shifting shoals and an erroneous magenta line on many chartplotters.

      Claiborne,
      After watching a sailboat go hard aground yesterday and laying on its side most of the afternoon, I would like to offer an alert for the AICW mile marker 703 near Cumberland Island and its intersection with Brickhill River. When northbound, stay well to the eastern, outside edge of the marked channel including going between a charted marshland and G59A. That is well off the magenta line but it is deep water, a minimum of 11 feet. It is also a major safety issue to go through these waters at a mid to rising high tide. If going into Brickhill River, stay on the northern edge of the junction as yesterday’s sailboat found bottom only a few feet from where we found 10+ water depth.
      Stay safe,
      Tom Conrad
      Nordic Tug 42 True North
      Currently in Brunswick, Georgia

      Very good advice Capt Tom. You can also call Boat US and they will give you local knowledge as you travel about a specific location problem or best practice for the current conditions. We cruise that area and shoaling can be a problem.
      Seeya,
      Sonny Reeves

      We just came thru here and took the Brickhill all the way thru after docking at the Plum Orchard pier for a couple of hours, and agree with this posting. Go slow and your depth finder will tell you which way to go. The Brickhill was easy all the way using normal navigation techniques (chart watching and outside of curves)
      John Winter

      Click Here To View the Cruisers’ Net’s “AICW Problem Stretches” Listing For the Cumberland Dividings

      Click Here To Open A Chart View Window, Zoomed To This AICW Problem Stretch

      Comments from Cruisers (1)

      1. Henry Thorpe -  October 21, 2015 - 12:54 pm

        I have been going through this stretch for ten years at all tide stages in a coastal passenger ship 240′ long drawing 9 feet…coming South staying to the left (GPS will show you actually going through the marsh) will carry 20+ feet all the way. Forget that the red markers exist!

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    • Good Advice from St. Andrew Sound, AICW Statute Mile 690

      Marker #32 - Click for Chartview

      As long as I can remember, the Waterway’s infamous R32, between Cumberland and Jekyll Islands, has been one of those “hold your breath” portions of the day’s run. Captain Conrad offers suggestions and also requests information about a possible alternate route.

      Claiborne,
      After reading your navigational alert [ /?p=104973 ] last night, I took good notes today as we crossed northbound St Andrews Sound near Jekyll Island and mile marker 690. You are correct, R32 is getting a shoal running near its eastern side and taking it on your port side when northbound will be dangerous. This route is also way out into the Atlantic where any wind and waves make a smooth passage a rare event. What I have done in my dozen or so crossing is make certain to arrive at a mid tide or higher. This is a good strategy with much of the Georgia ICW. With that advantage, I will line up next to G35 and run a line to the eastern most of three water towers on Jekyll Island (it is a small water tower). Until it is moved again, that is the same as lining up on R30. Today, with a slight rising tide, we saw nothing less than 10 feet of water depth while cutting across the eastern end of Horseshoe Shoal.
      Another interesting alternative that I have never tried is leaving the ICW just north of R34 and heading west toward the Satilla River using a junction point just south of G7 and R8. If any of your readers have tried this route, I would be interested in learning about their success. It would certainly be an easier route into Jekyll Island channel.
      Stay safe,
      Tom Conrad
      Nordic Tug 42 True North
      Currently in Brunswick, Georgia

      Do you mean the `tank’ more or less at the same latitude as #19 in Jekyll Creek?
      Chris and Janet

      I suppose but it is hard to tell since chart updates don’t do a good job of land based nav aides like water towers. If visibility is good, the eastern most of the 3 water towers on Jekyll Island will be apparent. If visibility is bad, use R30 or wait for a better day.
      Stay safe,
      Tom

      Image Courtesy of Jim and Peg Healy

      In regards to the posting below from Captains Jim and Peg Healy, their message conveys an intriguing alternative. On the one hand, it avoids the additional length and, at places, shallow depths, of the Umbrulla Cut Alternate AICW route, and it avoids going all the way out to #32 in the briny blue. And, Captains Jim and Peg are highly experienced cruisers who have a knack and a reputation for delivering accurate information.
      HOWEVER, there is NO guarantee that the eastern tip of Horseshoe Shoal will not have built farther to the east by the time of your transit, and it is certainly possible that you might encounter shallower depths that what Jim and Peg, or the NOAA charts, report.
      Therefore, we advise that ONLY adventurous mariners, and those whose vessel is equipped with a well functioning GPS chart plotter, undertake this shortcut, and, even then, be sure to proceed with the greatest caution!

      Attached is a screen shot of what we do in transiting St. Andrews Sound. Sanctuary draws 4-1/4′ and we find this route carries 7′ or more at low tide. The red lines on the screen shot are various transits of St. Andrews Sound before we established the black “route” in 2009. There are several more tracks buried under the route line.
      You can see that we went all the way out to R32 one time, early on. Too rough. We don’t do that any more.
      Peg and Jim Healy aboard Sanctuary

      Click Here To Open A Chart View Window, Zoomed To the Location of R32

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    • The Good and the Less Than Good About Jekyll Harbor Marina (Statute Mile 684.5)

      Jeykyll Harbor Marina... a Cool Place to Beat the Heat After reading the interesting listing of pros and cons below, we think you will agree that the positives of SALTY SOUTHEAST CRUISERS’ NET SPONSOR, Jekyll Harbor Marina, far outweigh the negatives!
      This first-class facility flanks the AICW passage through Jekyll Creek, immediately south of the Jekyll Island high-rise bridge.

      Cruising News:
      What we like about being on our boat at Jekyll Harbor Marina:

      The Hot tub is Hot! Thanks Terry!
      The pool is always shaded by beautiful Live Oaks adorned with Spanish moss and is always Cold!
      The showers are clean! Thanks V! The new renovations are nice. Thanks Randy!
      The docks float and are concrete, the potable water is clean and each slip has a connection with a dock box.
      The WiFi is strong enough for NetFlix! Thanks Doc!
      The facedock is always full of interesting transients.
      The Parking is close by and shaded by the beautiful Live Oaks!
      The new bike trail is safe and goes over to the old mansions and “The Club” or the beach connecting to 25+ miles of bike trails.
      The market, post office and other stores are a short bike ride away.
      The fishing is great! Especially aboard the “FatBoy” Thanks Alex and Brian!
      The dock hands are experienced and helpful. Thanks Wes!
      The staff are respectful, professional and helpful. Thanks Megan!
      Our neighbors are wonderful friends.
      The Marina host potlucks and cookouts! Thanks Scott!
      Angie makes the best BBQ Ribs ever!
      The Jekyll Bubble actually exists! We have watched storms go around us. Last major storm was 1898.
      Riding bikes through the Historic District early in the AM. Nice because there are almost no people. Riding on the beach early, nice because you see turtle tracks and the Sea Turtle Center marks the nests.
      The marina is scheduled for dredging soon! Thanks Scott!
      We have a onsite surveyor and delivery Captains! Thanks Frank and Lynn!
      We have Boat US onsite! Thanks Rich!
      Music and drinks on the dock for Sundowners.
      Our boat insurance rates are lower here than 60 miles south in Florida.
      We don’t smell the paper mills in Brunswick.
      Shark tooth hunting. Shelling. Watching the Bald Eagles and seeing Deer, Alligators and Raccoons on the bike rides.
      We have the most awesome sunsets over the marsh.
      The State park is a gated, state trooper patrolled community.
      The beautiful beaches are mostly deserted during the week days.
      Drift Wood Beach is remarkable in it’s beauty.
      Cumberland Island and other great anchorages are a short boat trip away.
      We are safe and secure at our homeport.

      What we don’t like about being at Jekyll Harbor Marina:
      The no see ums that swarm when the wind dies down. The good side is they keep the “Disneyland” type tourists from visiting!
      The water in the ICW is dark brown from the silt and tannin. The good side is If the water was clear and there were no bugs then the place would be developed worse than any tourist trap in Florida.
      One of the Live Oaks fell and crushed a car we were fond of, but the insurance paid off so we could buy another. Thanks State Farm!
      Idiots that speed on the island!
      Idiots that speed on the water!
      Idiots that don’t stop or slow down for people on bikes even in the crosswalks.
      Fishing and catching stingrays.
      We fear that developers will some how get control and their greed will destroy this Jewell of the Golden Isles.
      It is 30 miles to downtown Woodbine Georgia the home of Capt. Stan’s Smokehouse. This restaurant needs to be onsite. We all have to die from something and I choose BBQ and fresh oysters! The onsite restaurant just does not get the message.
      The new traffic gate seems to slow the trip back on to the island instead of making things more efficient.
      Tourists that walk the dock looking into the boats and generally being annoying.
      Tourists that throw their trash out on the roads, beach and the water.
      There is no music on the docks since Andy and Diana have gone to the Chesapeake for the summer.
      Captain Sonny

      In regards to the note below from Jim Smiley, PLEASE BE SURE TO READ THE REPLY from Jekyll Harbor Marina dockmaster, Scott Todd! We think this clarifies the entire situation, and, may we add as an editorial comment, that the entire Salty Southeast Cruisers’ Net team is very impressed with Captain Todd’s management of this fine facility!

      I agree with most of the positives, but need to add a couple of negatives . . . several years ago we were at the dock when a tropical storm was approaching. At that time (and maybe now) the marina had a contract with a large river cruise liner. On the morning of the storm the cruise ship decided to return to the marina to ride out the storm. Three boats (included ours) were . . . told to leave. The result was that we were kicked off the dock in 30 kts of wind. No fun crossing GA sounds in that kind of wind. After a very trying day we anchored safely in Cattle Pen Creek. Since that incident we have not stayed at the marina unless the tides were unfavorable for doing Jeckyl Creek.
      Jim Smiley

      To All Boaters:
      My name is Scott Todd, the new manager of Jekyll Harbor Marina. I want to thank Sonny Reeves for the very kind words about Jekyll Harbor. Jim, I would also like to comment on your concern however, I can’t speak for what happened prior to my arrival. Let me start off by saying we do NOT nor will we ever have a standing contract with any boat or company that would supersede any other vessel or owner. However, we do protect vessels that have reservations at our Marina. The cruising company that you are referring to makes their reservations in November each year for dockage during the Spring. When those ships arrive for their reservations we honor that reservation. Likewise, if we gave any transient boater their reservation, we view that as a contract. Unfortunately some times boaters decide to stay longer at our marina due to weather, when that happens I still have to honor reservations made prior to the bad weather. It really puts us in a delicate situation but rarely are we put into that position. Furthermore, we won’t ask boats that had reservations to leave, we would be forced to ask the vessels that stopped in due to weather first. Having said that, it is also our policy now to warn vessels when they check in during inclement weather if it appears there may be a potential issue similar to the above. Jim, I would love to talk to you further regarding this matter so if you would please call me at your convenience at (912) 635-3137 so that I could make this right in your eyes. Once again Thank You all for your positive feedback but thank you even further for the opportunity to answer your negative ones.
      Scott Todd
      Jekyll Harbor Marina

      Hi Jim,
      Sorry to hear that story. Please do come by and meet the new dock master Scott Todd. I will know you and others will be impressed with this young man. He is vast improvement over both of the other DMs we had here. I have been here off and on for the past six years and I would not stay if I had to put up the other dock master.
      Thank you,
      Sonny

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    • New Report from Hell Gate, AICW Problem Stretch, Statute Mile 602

      The AICW follows the narrow, man-made canal known as Hell Gate between the Vernon and Ogeechee Rivers. These waters have been an “AICW Problem Stretch” for years.
      Cruising News:
      I transited Hell gate on 6/22/13 enroute from Thunderbolt Marine to my home at Ft McAllister on the Ogeechee River. I have made this passage many times in the past as I’m a “local” and it is part of my cruising area. I have a Bristol 29.9 CB which only draws 3.5 feet, so I was not concerned at transiting at low tide. However, this time I was mistaken. I made the passage at 1500 hours which by my estimate was low slack water. Tide tables indicated a very low -0.9 tide. I always follow the same “established route” on my GPS, so I know that I am always on a route that has been successful in past. As I traveled south between G89 and temp R90 my depth sounder went from 5 feet to 3 feet and I slowed from 6 knots to 3 knots. I estimate that I was plowing a furrow for 200 feet or so, before I started to get more water under my keel. Fortunately, I didn’t go hard aground as the bottom was obviously silt and loose sand. Everywhere else on that trip through Hell Gate the minimum depth that I saw was about 5 feet. Hope this post helps some cruisers.
      Richard Brown

      Click Here To View the Cruisers’ Net’s “AICW Problem Stretches” Listing For Hell Gate

      Click Here To Open A Chart View Window, Zoomed To This AICW Problem Stretch

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    • Change in Management, Brunswick Landing Marina, AICW Statute Mile 680

      Brunswick Landing Marina - Click for Chartview

      Brunswick Landing Marina, a very popular facility with long term resident cruisers, actually sits well off the direct path of the AICW, flanking the eastern banks of Academy Creek, just off Brunswick River, near the heart of downtown Brunswick, Georgia. I personally visited here in April of 2012, and, as usual, found a bunch of contented cruisers, some of whom who had happily spent the preceding winter at this facility.

      Yard manager referenced in earlier comments is no longer employed by BLM.
      Chris and Janet

      Click Here To View the Georgia Cruisers’ Net Marina Directory Listing For Brunswick Landing Marina

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    • Good Words for Two Way Fish Camp, off the AICW Statute Mile 660

      Two Way Fish Camp - Click for Chartview

      Two Way Fish Camp is on the South Altamaha River, off the Waterway departing north of marker #218A. Old South charm, well worth the trip!

      My boyfriend and I were there recently in the kingfish tournament and we had a wonderful time. Great people, great food and we will definitely be back.
      Kim

      Click Here To View the Georgia Cruisers’ Net Marina Directory Listing For Two Way Fish Camp

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    • Praise for Morning Star Marina at Golden Isles, AICW near Statute Mile 676

      Morningstar Marina at Golden Isles - Click for Chartview

      Morning Star Golden Isles Marina is located on the Frederica River, between Lanier and St. Simons Islands, south of the charted 9 foot bridge. Depart north from the Waterway south of ICW marker # 247 and Frederica River marker #1. While the Frederica River has good depths north of the marina, access from the Waterway north is not possible because of the fixed 9ft clearance bridge.

      I love Morningstar Marinas. and Golden Isles is no exception. We stayed three nights in late May, as we have done many times before. The staff are great, as is the free delivery of the paper and muffins in the morning. The showers are clean and maintained, and my favorite Catalina Dealer, Dunbar Sales, is on the premises.
      We used the pool and the local restaurant, as well as Jekyll Club and a restaurant in St Simon’s and had a uniformly good experience. St Simon’s and Jekyll Islands are great tourist areas, so rent a car, and have some fun off the boat as well.
      We are Morningstar Gold Members, and as such receive discounts at all their marinas. This program is worth looking at if you like their quality. Golden Isles, St. Simon’s is just a great example of their marinas.
      William Lawrenson

      Click Here To View the Cruisers’ Net’s Georgia Marina Directory Listing For Morningstar Marina at Golden Isles

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    • Report from Cumberland Island, GA, off the AICW Statute Mile 697

      Brickhill Northern Anchorage - Click for Chartview

      Our good friend, Sonny Reeves who lives aboard his boat at nearby Jekyll Harbor Marina, shares details below of a recent trip to magnificently undeveloped Cumberland Island. This isle is found south of St. Andrews Sound, and hard by the eastern flank of the AICW. For the full report, go to http://ontheofficewautoteacher.blogspot.com/2013/05/brickhill-river-ancorage-cumberland.html

      Anchored in the Brickhill river around the bend from the primitive campsites. No cell service, no internet. Lots of green flies. Ran off the solar panels and inverter with no problems. Towed the dink. Caught bait and fished but only caught small sharks, Walked to beach saw alligators and an armadillo. Very nice would like to spend a few weeks at the different anchorages in cooler weather. Had a strong south breeze all week. Saw more horses than people.
      Sonny Reeves

      Click Here To View the Georgia Cruisers’ Net Marina Directory Listing For Northern Brickhill River Anchorage

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    • More Good Words for Sunbury Crab Company Restaurant and Marina, Medway River off AICW Statute Mile 620

      Sunbury Crab Company Marina - Click for Chartview

       Panoramic View of the Sunbury Harbor Relaxed Laid-Back Atmosphere Fresh Steamed Blue Crabs caught Daily Homemade Crab Cakes and Crab StewRestaurant offers a Full-Service BarSunday Home-Cooking LunchThe Sunbury Crab Company Marina lies off the AICW along the western shores of the Medway River, on the charted Sunbury Channel, north of Dickinson Creek. And they are A SALTY SOUTHEAST CRUISERS’ NET SPONSOR!

      Stayed at Sunbury May 23, 2013. The dock is great and the restaurant is fantastic (see web site for days open). They are very friendly, kind people.
      I printed the map on their web site and followed it ‘“ be careful not to cut the corner on the entrance to the Sunbury Channel ‘“ otherwise navigation is a cake walk, and never less than 14 ft. or water.
      There are few alternatives in this area, and although it’s a way off the ICW, it is a great place to visit. This is our second visit, and I am sure we will stop there again as we pass through Georgia.
      William Lawrenson

      Click Here To View the Cruisers’ Net’s Georgia Marina Directory Listing For Sunbury Crab Company

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    • Delegal Creek Marina (Statute Mile 600)

      The poorly marked entrance to Delegal Creek Marina leaves the combined paths of the AICW and Vernon River, immediately north of the infamous Hell Gate section of the Waterway. Captains Chuck and Claria give GOOD advice below for successfully navigating the tricky entrance passage.
      The article below is copied from the American Great Loop Cruisers’ Association Forum!(http://www.greatloop.org/)

      I’ll second the vote for Delegal Creek Marina, at MM 600 on Skidaway Island. Yes, it can be a little tricky getting in there the first time, their channel markers don’t line up with what’s on your chart plotter. Go to http://www.landings.org/delegal-creek-marina-3284 and then click on Delegal Creek Map under Marinas tab for directions on getting in. If you’re coming in with less than + 3′ of water on the tide table, call the marina office for instructions, and if your still a little concerned as to where the deepest water is they will come out and guide you in.
      Then if you want a special treat for dinner, call Renee at 912-598-7929 and order Chicken Pot Pies delivered to your boat. Call her a few hours before you get there and she will deliver them hot, if you wait to call her until you get in late in the afternoon, they will be frozen. Of course, a delightful dinner at one of the club houses is always a special treat as well. An inexpensive stop you will enjoy, $.94 per foot with Boat US discount. We now stop every time we go by. It’s a nice 61 mile run from our home in Beaufort, SC.
      Chuck and Claria Gorgen
      ODYSSEE

      We echo Chuck’s comments. The only thing to add is that the current can be tough for docking, especially a single screw. With that said, it is a definite stop and try to time for slack tide, especially when leaving. Dock master is excellent for giving advice on how to dock.
      John Winter

      Click Here To View the Georgia Cruisers’ Net Marina Directory Listing For Delegal Creek Marina

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    • Umbrella Cut Alternate AICW Passage (Statute Miles 685.5 to 695.5)

      On 4/22/13, as part of a NE Florida – Georgia Wish List, we posed the following question:

      Statute Mile 695.5 to 685.5 ‘“ anyone cruise the alternate `Umbrella Cut’ AICW passage to bypass St. Andrew Sound this spring? If so, what depths did you discover? Is this passage still a viable alternative for cruising size craft?

      Responses follow: (UPDATED on 5/16/13, with the detailed report from Captain Kevin Quinn below)

      Cruising News:
      I would like to report to you about my horrific day cruising back to Savannah GA from St. Augustine FL on Wednesday the 1st of May 2013 in my Catalina C36 MKII draft 4’3’. The main point of my report is the `Alternate ICW back route around the infamous St. Andrews Sound. Well the weather was as bad as I have seen in years, the wind never dropped below 30 knots all day. I have crossed St. Andrews Sound in rough weather before and the crossing is never good not even in low winds. We were getting bad reports all day from boats that crossed St. A. Sound, none were good. Two things convinced me to go the back way; one the ICW in the Cumberland River was worse than my previous crossings of St. A., two it was one hour before high tide. I fought the Cumberland River above and below the waves to get to the Red `40’ Dayboard and was glad to make the port turn into Floyd Creek and the Red `A34’ Dayboard. Once in Floyd Creek the water calmed and was flat. There was plenty of water but never having gone that way I kept a close eye on the depth gauge. When I turned into the wind at the Green ` A31’ Dayboard the waves were only one foot high but the wind was ripping the tops of the little buggers and throwing them at me horizontally. I could see another sailboat about a mile in front of me. So I felt if he did not stop I would be OK. At the Green `A27’ There is a wreck marked and it is visible at high tide. When I was between the wreck and the `G A27’ I marked 9 feet of depth. Now if you subtract 8 feet of tide from that, at low tide there will not be much water there. At the `G A21’ I also showed 9 feet at high tide. Crossing the Bulkhead there is open water again 4 foot waves and good depth. There was good water and depth all the way to Dover Cut. I entered Dover Cut at the Red `A14’ Dayboard. It looks small and intimidating on the Chartplotter and when you are in it, it is as small and curvy as it looks. But it is deep. That is till you get to the end and it does shallow up. The `R A8’ and `G A9’ are side by side at the entrance to Umbrella Creek and there I marked 9 feet and that is at high tide. Now all the charts I looked at have some warning about the low water in the Umbrella Cut but there I marked 18 feet all the way. From there it is a straight shot across Jekyll Sound to the back side of Jekyll Island but still it was a rough crossing on that day. St. Simon Sound was rougher than any of my St. Andrews Sound crossings and St Simon is completely closed in and protected.
      So I made it and it took two hours from the Red `A34’ to the Green `A3’. My recommendation is that you can go the Alternate ICW route around St. Andrews Sound as long as it is two hours before or right at high tide. Even the locals like long time sailor Barney Riley at Golden Isle Marina say they never go that way. There is no local knowledge, I asked Barney, BoatUS and `Down’ the Army Corps of Engineers Hydrostatic boat that happened to be in the area sounding and they all said they had no knowledge and had never been that way. The `Down’ did say they had a boat assigned to that area and hoped to have some data soon.
      Kevin Quinn

      Came thru here on 4 17 13. Dead low tide. We draw 3 and one half. Saw several spots of 1 or two feet under keel. Also saw a bear cub along the way.
      Greg and Donna
      on The Lady in Red

      Would use St. Andrew Sound in place of Umbrella Cut even if I had to wait out weather for the Sound. 40 foot boat with a 4.5 foot draft.
      Raymond W. Smith
      “Fire Dog”

      My wife and I utilized this alternate route northbound while bringing our GB42 home in June,2012.
      We were at near- low tide. We took it slow. We experienced a “light” grounding in a spot that just looked like it was going to be trouble. We were going slow enough to back off and “nose” our way thru by searching for deeper water. At higher tides, for those who want to avoid the “sloppy sound”, this is a great alternative. We would always use this route– unless we have our vessel stabilized.
      We still have a hole in our after cabin panelling from a table lamp we forgot to secure, when we came thru the sound and experienced the chaos that the wind, tide and waves can cause.
      Clyde Lee
      Diane Willis
      1987 GB42 CL
      “Friendship”

      Click Here To Open A Chart View Window, Zoomed To the Location of the Umbrella Cut Alternate AICW Passage

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    • Jekyll Island Bike Trail, Jekyll Harbor Marina, AICW Statute Mile 684.5

      Jekyll Harbor Marina - Click for Chartview

      Jeykyll Harbor Marina... a Cool Place to Beat the Heat This new bike trail just adds another to the many reasons to stop at Jekyll Island. Jekyll Harbor Marina lies along the easterly banks of the AICW’s passage through Jekyll Creek, immediately south of the 65-foot fixed bridge. These good folks are a SALTY SOUTHEAST CRUISERS’ NET SPONSOR and and the marina is home to our good friend, Sonny Reeves, who keeps us posted on all things Jekyll!

      Hi Capt, The bike trail is set to open soon and will run all the way to Jekyll Harbor Marina. I rode beach trail, circled back thru the old village and then rode the new trail across the marsh this morning at dawn and it is great. I saw deer, raccoon and alligators. Jekyll Harbor Marina has free loaner bikes for all cruisers and guest. Come ride over 25 miles of island trails.
      Sonny Reeves

      Click Here To View the Cruisers’ Net’s Georgia Marina Directory Listing For Jekyll Harbor Marina

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      Bike Trail - Look for the Deer

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    • Chartplotter and Charting Issues at Cumberland Dividings AICW Problem Stretch, (Statute Mile 704)

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      Cumberland Dividings, just north of where the AICW intersects the southerly reaches of the Brickhill River, has multiple problems. First, some charts and chartplotters show the magenta fairway line running on the western side of the red markers in this area. Those who blindly follow this erroneous magenta line will run aground every time. Also, and perhaps even worse, the Waterway is shoaling badly along its western flank, north of marker #63.

      AICW MM704 Cumberland Dividings Problem
      We transited this area northbound this afternoon. I was watching a Garmin chartplotter (new 2011) and the newest NOAA raster chart displaying on a laptop at the lower steering station sent to my Nexus via a VPN connection. Even the newest NOAA raster chart shows the magenta line to the west of the red daymarks (the real channel is to the east side of the daymarks). The daymarks are properly marked with the ICW triangle. A sailboat following us failed to honor the red daymarks – fortunately they stayed very close to the red (even though they were was leaving them on his starboard side) and made it through. The most current NOAA ENC chart has the correct course passing over dry land based on our track.
      This same problem has existed since at least 2005 or so. How long does it take NOAA to correct a chart?

      Click Here To View the Cruisers’ Net’s “AICW Problem Stretches” Listing For the Cumberland Dividings

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    • More Good Words for Hidden Harbor Yacht Club, AICW Statute Mile 670.5

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      Hidden Harbor Yacht Club, which gladly accepts transients, is located on Troup Creek. This body of water intersects the AICW, immediately north of St. Simons Sound, near markers #237 and #238.

      Great find. Small, quaint and clean. Lovely little place. There are currently no showers, but, they do have a courtesy car, kitchen and gas grill. Beautiful views. Would stay again!
      Pete and Jorgina Colyn

      Click Here To View the Georgia Cruisers’ Net Marina Directory Listing For Hidden Harbor Yacht Club

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    • Frederica River Anchorages (Statute Mile 666)

      On 4/26/13, in a supplementary question to our Wish List of 4/22/13, we posed the following question:

      2. Statute Mile 666 – Who has anchored on the Frederica River lately? Did you enter the river from its southern or northern intersections with the Waterway? Did you drop the hook abeam of the Fort Frederica National Monument, and, if so, did you dinghy ashore? Were you impressed with the tour, and/on slide show in the National Monument?

      Responses follow:

      We have dropped the hook in this river three times and have had good experiences each time.
      We have used the spot at the monument twice, both north and southbound. The access point to the monument from the river requires at low tide a slog through about 15 feet of puff mud and then a dubious climb up a rickety wooden ladder to the sea wall top. We chose not to go ashore.
      Entry/exit in both directions is pretty straightforward, but some what shallow compared to the channel in the river itself. Bear in mind the manner in which shoals form in these tidal rivers, filling at points and cutting deeper at the outside of curves.
      Steve Kamp
      S/V Carolina

      We have not anchored there, although friends did a year ago and said it worked fine. But we did take the tour by land. The fort is one of many wonderful Georgia historical treasures and well worth the stop. Very informative, and pleasant and peaceful grounds.
      Jack&Linda Dunnigan
      S/V SILVER GIRL

      We anchored in Frederica River on 1/22/13 and had a comfortable night anchored off the fort. We had no trouble entering the Frederica River at the north end, but were hard aground 100 yards in from the south entrance on our way out the next morning. I strongly recommend sticking to the north entrance to come and go. Good holding and dinghied ashore to walk the grounds of the fort. A nice stop if you avoid the shoal water at south entrance. We draw 4.5 ft.
      Steve Young
      CrossRoads

      Click Here To View the Eastern Florida Cruisers’ Net Marina Directory Listing For

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    • Up the Savannah River to Savannah, GA (near St. M. 575.5)

      The Hyatt dock is a popular boating dock along the Savannah River that many tourists and boaters use if they are staying at The Hyatt or just stopping by River Street for some lunch. If you're sailing along Tybee Island, park your boat and grab a burger! On 4/22/13, as part of a NE Florida – Georgia Wish List, we posed the following question:

      Statute Mile 575.5 ‘“ Who has cruised upstream on Savannah River, and spent a night or two along the downtown Savannah Waterfront? Where did you stay ‘“ the city dock, the Westin or River Street Market? Did you have trouble being jostled by the wake of passing, larger, ocean going freighters or tankers? How did you enjoy downtown Savannah?

      Responses follow:

      My better half and I have stayed both at the Hyatt dock and at the Market Street dock. Both are accommodating but neither is what I would call a first class facility. Wifi and cable were `iffy’ at best. And yes, to answer your question more specifically, the large boat traffic did keep us bouncing around some, and the clunk of tree limbs and other flotsam on its way to the ocean also created some anx. However, it is all worth it to visit and tour River Street and to take a horse and buggy ride through that beautiful city. Our favorite restaurants are `Vics on the River’, and just off the river, but within walking distance is the `Blue Safire’ Restaurant. We would recommend the visit and these restaurants enthusiastically.
      Tom Wilson

      We stayed at the City Marina when we went to Savannah. The dock master was very helpful. Easy walk to the shops and all the restaurants. Ate at Paula Deans. Don’t let the line fool you. We only waited about twenty minutes. They have dining on multiple levels of the building. The two nights we were there we only remember a few ships coming by. They were in the middle of the night. The wake was not that bad.
      Rho-Jo

      We agree with the above posting. The only addition is that if you are tied to any of the docks on the River Street side (Hyatt, City docks) that you make sure your lines are not too tight and that they are long, meaning do not do a short tie from dock cleat to the boat cleat, since when you do get rocked by some of the large ships, your boat had room to `swing’ and not tug on your lines too hard. IN fact, using a smaller diameter line is also better since it can stretch better than a large diameter. If you do not do this, you run the risk of pulling a cleat out of your boat. Use plenty of fenders too since one may `pop out’ during the rocking. This is always good advice anyway in many situations, but especially here. You will see where some cleats are damaged on docks, I suppose from boats that did not heed this advice.
      John Winter

      Click Here To View the Eastern Florida Cruisers’ Net Marina Directory Listing For the Savannah Hyatt Dock

      Click Here To Open A Chart View Window, Zoomed To the Location of the Savannah Hyatt Dock

      Click Here To View the Georgia Cruisers’ Net Marina Directory Listing For River Street Market Place Dock

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    • Two Way Fish Camp (Statute Mile 660)

      On 4/22/13, as part of a NE Florida – Georgia Wish List, we posed the following question:

      Statute Mile 660 ‘“ Who has cruised up the South Altamaha River, leaving the AICW north of marker #218A? Did you anchor or pick up a slip at Two Way Fish Camp? If you stayed at the marina, did you dine ashore at Mudcat Charlies? If so, how was the food?

      Responses follow:

      I made the trip up to Two Way Fish Camp. Wonderful side trip. Marina funky but friendly. I hadn’t been eating in restaurants a lot at the time so it seemed very good then. I’m not sure how many stars I would give it but it is certainly at least worth the trip.
      Roger Long
      S/V Strider

      Click Here To View the Georgia Cruisers’ Net Marina Directory Listing For Two Way Fish Camp

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    • Vernon River Anchorages (Statute Mile 597)

      On 4/22/13, as part of a NE Florida – Georgia Wish List, we posed the following question:

      Statute Mile 597 ‘“ Who has abandoned the AICW south of marker #79, and cruised upstream, then anchored, on Vernon River near charted Beaulieu? Please describe your anchoring experience here.

      Responses follow:

      Vernon River? Been there, done that, loved it. Good holding ground. I stayed put through the squall seen in this SBO post:
      http://forums.sbo.sailboatowners.com/showthread.php?t=148151&#post984707
      I had two anchors out. The less experienced crew of a boat nearby just threw out one without really setting it and they only moved a little bit.
      Next time south, I plan to explore farther up this river.
      Roger Long
      S/V Strider

      On April 18, 2013, I anchored in the area referred to as Breakfast Creek. Plenty of room and good holding bottom. It was peaceful and quiet. Will definitely stop again.
      Randy Hondros

      Click Here To View the Georgia Cruisers’ Net Anchorage Directory Listing For the Vernon River Anchorages

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