They’re very serious about no overboard discharge in Naples!!!

We are spending 4 nights in the mooring field at Naples adjacent to Naples Town Dock. Pull up to the Naples Town Dock and they will pump your holding tank: they wanted to put a seal on my black water over board. I then explained to the attendant that we on the Canadian Great Lakes banned the discharge of sewage from pleasure craft back in the late 50’s or early 60’s: and that all my overboard systems had been disconected decades ago. Great price $10.00 per night, a short dingy ride from shopping and restaurants. Max stay is 4 days in response to the live aboard problem Fl has. This type of ordance is some what akin to trying to fixing your watch with a sledge hammer.

Marco River Marina resides on the inner shores of Factory Bay, which indents the eastern shores of Marco Island. There is also good shopping and dining within walking distance of this facility!

Spent 2 nights at Marco Island Marina due to weather.
Very friendly staff all around. New floating docks were installed only a while ago. Get 10c off / gallon of fuel when you stay at the marina. Plenty of Restaurants within walking distance.
Sabine and Reinhold Probst
Cabana
Mainship Trawler 40

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The “waterway” that runs from Coon Key Pass, behind Marco Island, and eventually north to Gordon Pass and Naples, is NOT a part of the official (maintained by the US Army Corps of Engineers) Western Florida ICW. HOWEVER, for vessels that draw 4 feet or less, this passage is an intriguing alternative to cruising between Marco and Naples.
There some real navigational quirks, and the depth limitation outlined above is based on one 4 1/2 foot spot, found near Goodland (southern Marco Island). Perhaps the trickiest section is an easy to miss marker, just south of the Goodland Bridge. If you miss that ATON, you’ll be giving Sea Tow some business every time.
The discussion below is copied from the AGLCA (American’s Great Loop Cruisers’ Association) mail list. As always, I HIGHLY recommend this organization for ANYONE doing or contemplating the Great Loop!

Is this a viable alternative to going outside with a 4.5 foot draft boat? It looks like it might be a nice place to transit and anchor.
Do it at high/rising tide?
Thanks,
Jim

Jim:
We took about 4’4″ through there a few years ago (2006) with no problems. It is shallow and narrow in spots, so your thought of doing it on a rising tide is a good one. It is a rather isolated but pretty route.
Also, be aware they are dredging in Gordon Pass near Naples, but that shouldn’t be a problem for you.
Bill

A nice place to anchor is in the channel west of Little Marco Island beginning at daymark G”33″. We anchored there and found ourselves partially aground next morning. No problem, we just waited two hours for the incoming tide to float our boat. Evidently, we did not allow enough room to swing on the tide change. Why does the boat always swing on the short shore side when there is gobs of room on the other side?
Alan Lloyd
Author, Great Loop Navigation Notes
(http://www.navigationnotes.com/)

Jim,
Yes, inside route is OK for your draft boat.
Sanctuary draws 4’2″. In March, 2009, we left Punta Gorda via Charlotte Harbor to the G-ICW, south and went out into the Gulf at Redfish Pass (Captiva Island), and south on the Gulf to Gordon Pass.
There is only one high tide on the gulf side of Florida, and the high tides are normally in the afternoon, so we entered Gordon Pass on a rising tide around 14h00. Or, you could come all the way from
Charlotte Harbor south on Pine Island Sound and past Sanibel Island to Ft Myers Beach. From Ft. Myers Beach south to Gordon Pass, outside. When you come off the Gulf into and through Gordon Pass, after a mile or so, you’ll take a hard stbd southbound on the old ICW. That’s the worst part of the entire trip for shallow water, narrow channel and inconsiderate local go fast fishing boats. But, about 4 or 5 miles south is a terrific anchorage called Rookery Bay. It’s a wild mangrove swamp area, and beautiful. Mind the correctly charted shoal on the north east of the opening. There’s plenty of water to the south. Some fisherman wakes until dark, but fine thereafter. No place to walk a dog.
From there, we proceeded south to Marco. Mind the charts very carefully at Marco. From Rookery Bay on the old ICW, you’ll need to go nearly all the way out the Marco inlet and make a 340 degree turn
back to get to the old ICW channel south of Marco to Goodland. You can anchor or marina at Marco. There is plenty of room, and more than one area to anchor.
When you leave Marco Southbound, there is a hiway bridge immediately south of Marco where the channel marker colors change sides. So… When you go under that bridge, southbound, you MUST take a 90 degree stbd turn and find R”26″, which lies against the shoreline in a line parallel to the bridge. It can be hard to spot, but you must go around that marker, leaving it to your port side. You will see
smaller boats skip it, and head straight at the bridge. DO NOT FOLLOW THEM. It is too shallow for your boat! From R”26″, make another 90 degree turn, this time to port, and find G”25″. It’s a mile off, but
find it. The channel from R”26″ to G”25″ is a bit narrow, but carries 6 – 8′ of water, so no problem. There is a collection of remains of pilings to stbd after you make the turn at R”26″; leave them to your
stbd side and follow a rhumb line from R”26″ to G”25″. This all sounds complicated, but forewarned, it’s not bad. However, it can be confusing and unintuitive if you don’t know the marker colors change
side there.
The rest of that old ICW channel is fine, and well marked. Follow it through Goodland and through Coon Key Pass to Gullivan Bay. You can anchor or marina at Goodland. If you marina there, be sure to check on approach water depths. The area is shallow. The north portion of Gullivan Bay is also shallow: 5 ft or so at MLW, but no problem. As you proceed south past coon Key Light, you have entered the 10,000 Islands.
Jim
Peg and Jim Healy aboard Sanctuary
Currently at Charlotte Harbor, Punta Gorda, FL

The Old ICW from Naples to Rookery Channel Anchorage
So far so good…..Shallow yes, Twins arrived in Naples about noon yesterday and took the old ICW to the channel between R46 and R48. We anchored up the channel to the east as far as you should go to the 8ft charted hole where the bay opens. The tide was still rising.
I’ve estimated that the tides here run one to two hours after the tide tables for Marco and Naples which are about an hour different. At low tide this morning the slack occurred almost 2 hours after the stated Marco low at 7:34 of -1.0. We still had a good 9 feet under the swim platform. You could also tie off to the mangroves here but there is lots of room to swing. A pretty spot.
Definately do this trip at high tide for Naples or Marco if you carry a trawler draft. The advice from Sanctuary (and others) is great! Thanks.
I’ll cross my fingers again at high tide when we head for Goodland today.

In 2006 (so info is that dated, but post Hurricane Charlie) we took a chartered 46′ Grand Banks from Marco to Naples using the inside route, a delightful trip on a rising tide. The junction with Gordon Pass is tricky, as noted by Jim. At that time an alternative anchorage to Rookery Bay, and one of our all time favorites, was inside Hurricane Pass. There is a very nice beach that we swam or took our inflatable kayak to that would be good for a dog if you cleaned up after it. One of those places where we could have spent a week . The Pass itself is not usable to get to the Gulf.
George

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The Marina at Factory Bay (http://www.themarinaatfactorybay.com/) is a new facility for me, and it is not yet listed in our “Western Florida Marina Directory.” We have determined it is perched on the western shores of Factory Bay. This body of water is found just off the channel running behind Marco, near the island’s northwestern section.
Has anyone else stayed at The Marina at Factory Bay. If so, PLEASE tell us about your experience. The easiest way is to click the “Comment on This Posting/Marina/Anchorage/Bridge” link below, or e-mail me directly at CruisingWriter@CruisersNet.net.

We spent 4 nights at The Marina at Factory Bay and were very pleased. The facilities are first rate, the harbor masters anxious to please and restaurants, dry cleaner, marina store and bike shop an easy walk. The large condo provided great protection from the 25kn gale out of the NW. Grocery a 15 minute walk but can dinghy to a Publix (I think it’s a Publix) near the Esplanade (it has a dock out back.) The marina offers a 25% discount to Boat US members off their usual 2.50 per foot. Fuel up before going to Marco-diesel about 80 cents a gal more than Naples and gas is about $4 gal!
Peter Chapin
Moon Beam

Johnson Bay Anchorage is found on the unofficial Marco Island to Naples waterway, just north of Capri Pass and Marco Island. It is a pretty good anchor down spot, and can be accessed both by Capri Pass (as described below) or by cruising north behind Marco on the waterway.

We anchored here over the Thanksgiving weekend. We draw 5’8’³ and had no issues. We entered Capri Pass at low tide (0.9′ above MLW) and our lowest reading was 8′. We did favor the south side of the channel as shoaling to the north was pretty evident and we were concerned that it may be shoaling into the channel. The shoaling did help break the seas. Entering into the channel we still favored the starboard side until after turning north, at which point we favored the port side. You will feel the wake of passing boats, but for us it didn’t seem to be much of a problem. A front blew through so we had fairly strong north winds and Umbrella Island afforded a reasonable lee. Holding was very good, but the mud is sticky. We anchored pretty much right over the anchor in the chartlet provided by the Cruising Guide to Western Florida (we carry it and the Cruising Guide to the Florida Keys aboard) . It was pretty nice sitting in a peaceful and pretty anchorage, with fresh backed cookies and coffee and our diesel fireplace going.
s/v John Galt
Tayana 37

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The Port Royal Southern Offshoot Anchorage can be accessed directly from the channel stretching between Gordon Pass and the downtown Naples waterfront. And, watch out for the muddy holding ground described by Captain Charlie below.

Great protection but very ugly mud on the bottom. As the tide changes you will circle the anchor and dredge up some real smelly stuff. A good anchor wash down is a must.
Charlie Singmaster

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The following thread was copied from the MTOA List-Serv. By the way MTOA is an organziation that the Salty Southeast Crusiers’ Net highly recommends for trawler owners.
Anyway, this discussion has been so extensive, it was impossible to acquire individual permissions, so I have ommitted names.
The so-called “Inside Route” from Marco Island to Naples is an “unofficial” Waterway that begins at Coon Key Pass and Goodland, and runs north to the Gordon River and Naples. Most of this passage is deep enough for cruising craft, BUT the southerly extreme, near Goodland, can run as thin as 4 1/2 feet at MLW. At least that’s what I have observed over the years. Read on for more info!

Hi All,
I will be traveling from Punta Gorda to Marathon in June.
Has anyone travelled the inside route from Marco Island to Coon Point.
The trip looks interesting, but appears to be trickey. Rounding Cape Romano is more miles on the outside route. My boat draws 3’6″.

The last time I made a trip up that way was about 3 years ago, but had no problem taking the inside route. I draw 4’8″, so I need at least 5′ of water. I have seen 58′ Hatteras take that route also..When you go under the bridge @ Marco, make a tight right turn to stay in channel. Going around Cape Romano can get really rough..You will have no problem drawing 3’6″..

We have taken the inside from Gordon Pass at Naples to Coon Point in both of previous boats. 4′ draft and 5′ draft. I would recommend planning the trip to exit the Marco River at Coon Point at or near high tide.

We have done the inside passage several times with trawlers that draw 4 feet. You will have no trouble as long as you realize that channel turns sharply to Starboard immediately after you clear the bridge at the east end of Marco. The bouy over to your right looks like it is for a different channel, it’s not.
I don’t know what level of tide we were at (Gulf tides are confusing) at the Coon Key end on our last trip but we were watching the Depth Sounder very attentively while it read 4 t0 5 feet. It reads a 2′ less than actual.
Good luck and enjoy the trip. The inside passage from Naples to Marco is also nice and should be done at half tide or higher. We did hit bottom there a few years ago.

Speaking of the bridge where the sharp turns are required – I believe that’s where the “Red Right Returning” changes from returning from the Marco River to the Coon Key Inlet. Pay attention. It’s a fun passage but it’s really skinny outside the channel.

Inside at Naples, went south to Rookery Bay. The channel south from Naples is very shallow in spots, narrow, and lots of very inconsiderate, childish fishermen who think you’re the problem. Try to time tides in that area to hit it near high. Very nice spot to anchor; remote and wild. Watch charted shoal to north. Room for 5 – 6 cruising boats in 6 – 11 ft of water. If it matters to you, THERE IS NO PLACE THERE TO TAKE PETS ASHORE.
From Rookery Bay, went south, through Marco and Goodland. No water depth problems. Be careful headed south from Naples at Marco. The southbound channel turns west and goes almost all the way out to the gulf, then does a 170 degree turn back east to take you into the south side of Marco. Also, as already mentioned, be careful at the bridge south of Marco. Turn hard stbd immediately after passing the bridge southbound, to clear the red marker there. Then, the channel turns south, but is very poorly marked. There is a field of pilings there. Southbound, take them to stbd and you’ll be fine.

Subject: Naples to Marco to Goodland
Cruising News: We just made this run 3 weeks ago in a 44 Sea ray and while there were some “skinny spots” we always saw at least 5 feet at near high tide. The Marco Bridge, as noted, needs your attention. The bridge is the “divider” between the Marco inlet red, right returning and the Goodland inlet red right returning. On the Marco side of the bridge (north) red is to the starboard. Immediately under the bridge towards Goodland (south) red is now on your port. Very important! Headed south to Goodland from Marco you must immediatley turn hard to starboard as you go under the bridge and then put the red marker on your port side. Failure to do the “jog and marker-side switch” will put you aground.
Joe Curley

We have motored from North Naples Bay to Goodland on the inside route in our Catalina 30. Be careful and do it at high tide and you’ll be fine. It is a beautiful trip with an abundance of natural beauty.
Bill Foster

Esplanade Marina is a new one on me. Ask a local about how to find the passage from Marco River to Smokehouse Bay. While well marked, trying to find this passage for the first time is challenging.

Subject: Marco Island
Cruising News: I'm happy to report a very nice experience last weekend in Smokehouse Bay on Marco Island.  There was plenty of depth on the passage in from the Marco River, several sailboats were anchored in the bay and we had a wonderful stay at the Esplanade Marina.  There is a Winn Dixie across the street and restaurants everywhere.  There is even a public dock that is opened to dinghies.  A short cruise around the bay showed depths consistently around 14 feet.  The people working at the marina were wonderful and the facilities are first rate.  I recommend you drop the hook there as long as the State does not allow the draconian anchoring ordinance ordinance to be reinstated.  If they allow it, then visit the marina.
Bill Foster

And, here's an excellent report concerning the same facility, submitted by our regular Western Florida correspondent, Captain Gary Riss.

ESPLANADE MARINA
Captain Bill Foster has found Marco Island’s best kept secret.  Esplanade Marina is located in Smokehouse Bay which was the scene of the famous anchoring incident that started all the anchoring controversy for Marco Island.
Smokehouse Bay usually has a number of boats at anchor.  The holding is generally good and it is protected from adverse winds.  The marina has public docks for access to the many shore side facilities.
Esplanade Marina is a 72 slip facility of condo docks that many owners rent out on a transient or longer term basis.  The docks are floating concrete with water and power. The marina can accommodate boats up to 70’ or more. Dock master Larry and his assistant Bill will answer your call on VHF channel 16 or by phone.  Reservations are encouraged, especially during season.  There is a boater’s lounge with showers and laundry facilities.
In addition to the nearby grocery, there are three restaurants on site with a wide variety of menu items and prices.  The first mates will find a number of shops to satisfy their need to shop.
The channel off the Marco River is well marked.  As you approach from the Gulf side, take the first turn to starboard.  If the tide is running, you may need a little power to make the turn as the current can be strong.  Favor the docks on your port as there is plenty of water.  The remainder of the way to the Esplanade is a great ride among the mangroves and the many canal side residences.
Now that the secret is out, plan a stop at the Esplanade on your next cruise on the Southwest Coast.
Gary Riss
M/V Far From Normal

Gordon Pass is the only inlet that serves the Naples region (until you get all the way south to Marco Island). Thus, it is an important artery for cruising craft traffic, but for the last several years, this passage has been shoaling along its northern flank. After reading Captain Russell’s message below, it looks like that unhappy process is continuing.
There are also a whole collection of good and well sheltered anchorages nearby. Captain Russel does a superb job of detailing these overnight havens!

Gordon’s pass continues to shoal on the North side so favor the red. It’s about 7 feet( IF FAVORING THE RED!) at MLLW tides it’s no problem but, I perfer a deeper water passage (8 feet MLLW) it runs on a SW heading(if your out bound) just after you pass the breakwater simply head SW. This puts all markers to the WNW or seaward of your track line as you depart. I use that route about 10 times a week doing charters (6 foot draft)or with my own boat that draws 6’8″. I like that route and use it in all sea conditions as it gets me away from the big wake maker monster boats much faster which is safer for my passengers.But it also keeps you away from the ebb tide current much longer. This is nice if a seabreeze or a frontal passage has kicked the waves up as it\’s a much smoother passage.
There is another trouble spot during low water. If you draw over 5 1/2 feet and the tide is very low consider hugging green # 13 if you don\’t, and make for red #12 (staying on the proper side for incomming traffic) you will find shoaling about 200 feet before arriving at red #12. Once you pass by 13 (going inbound) you will be fine to get back on the proper side of the channel.
Now I add the disclaimer to be very careful to get past the end of the breakwater before turning and try this passage in settled weather until you are comfortable with it ect, ect….But in the effort to share info, give it a try sometime you’ll like it.
You can still anchor in the nice coves out of the current and wakes amongst the big houses. This is a great spot to overnight saving the 3 mile run up river. The most popular cove is about 150 feet before arriving at green #13. Just turn North to enter this cove. But remember you have to hug the western shore for the deepest waters. If you stay TIGHT (like 20 feet of the dock pilings!)to the western shore you\’ll have 6.5 feet at MLLW. Many boats anchor in this cove which has a very soft bottom. But if you hug the this western shore and see another bay that opens up as you look due East you can turn to starboard and head up in there. Note that as you head across this first bay and away from the western shore you where hugging the depth will get shallow. This is a very soft bottom and we get through this part with our 6′.8″ draft at a zero tide. But we have the RPM’s up as we trudge on through this soft muck. As you reach the enterance to this next bay the depth will drop off to about 8 feet. This is the bay to raft up as you are in total idle speed protection. Either bay is a great anchorage area but all private, please don’t take your dog ashore even to an empty lot as I’ve seen a cruiser do! That behaviour makes it harder on us who fight and speak in city concil meetings etc for anchor rights.

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Naples City Pier insisted on including the dinghy in Ben and Barbara’s vessel’s LOA! Never heard of that one before!

Today we took a leisurely cruise inland up to Naples and are at the Naples City Marina (no mooring balls as stated in the cruising guide) $1.50 per foot with Boat US disc. HOWEVER, they included our dingy (which is on the back of boat) in the footage. Never had that happen before! On the way up we have NEVER seen so many boats, they were everywhere! People yelling at each other on the radios, using not so nice words, ripping and tearing around…WELCOME to South Florida boating. This is Wednesday, what do you think it will be like on the weekend !!!
That’s all for meow,?
Ben and Barbara Falmlen
Two Cats Too

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Just a quick note from Captains Ben and Barbara below, resulting from their recent stay at Marco River Marina. Sounds like a really WONDERFUL meal at Snook Inn.

We had a WONDERFUL dinner at Snook Inn. Probably one of the best we have had the whole trip and spent the night at Marco River Marina. $2.25 per foot took on 50 gal. of fuel at $2.95 diesel. No discounts. We met friends for breakfast at the Sand Bar and did a quick Publix run. You could walk it from the marina, but it is several blocks.
Ben and Barbara Falmlen
Two Cats Too

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From my experience, Bill and Jane's observations below are spot on. The shallowest part of this unofficial "waterway" from Coon Key to Naples is found just as you approach Goodland, in sight of the two marinas there, one of which, Caloosa Island Yacht Club and Marina, is a SALTY SOUTHEAST CRUISERS' NET SPONSOR!
The message below was copied from the AGLCA list.

Thanks to everyone who gave us advice on taking the inside route up Coon Key Pass.  Be sure to go on a fairly high tide and at the Marco-Bear Point bridge, note that red 26 is way over to the right, just
before the bridge.  Pass 26 on your starboard and then parallel the bridge until you get to the opening.  We also would not recommend Factory Bay Marina at Marco Island on a weekend.  A shoal requires boats to pass very close to the docks and the no-wake zone is almost universally ignored.  It is especially bad around 5 o'clock when the rental float boats are steaming to get back to Marco Marina.  We were there during the week and can't imagine how bad the weekend would be. It's a shame because it's a very nice facility and close to a number of restaurants.
Bill, Jane and Daisy Stone

Captain Herman is quite right in his message below. Up until now, we have not covered Marco Island's Smokehouse Bay either on the Net's "Western Florida Anchorage Directory" or my own "Cruising Guide to Western Florida." We will correct that oversight ASAP!
For the moment, I took a look at chart 11430, and noted that Smokehouse Bay is accessed by way of a marked channel which runs through Collier Bay, near the northernmost section of Marco Island. I have heard that MLW depths in this entrance cut are thin. Anyone have more info on this anchorage?????