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    • Punta Gorda Pumpout Boat an Obvious Success, Charlotte Harbor, Gulf Coast

      Punta Gorda Waterfront – Click for Chartview

      Punta Gorda, Florida - a GREAT cruising destination The Punta Gorda pumpout boat has been in operation since November of 2013 and has definitely been good news for cruisers visiting SALTY SOUTHEAST CRUISERS’ NET SPONSOR, Punta Gorda, on Western Florida’s Charlotte Harbor/Peace River.To see the schedule and locations, go to:
      http://www.ci.punta-gorda.fl.us/leis/boating.html

      Question: What days of the week is the pump out boat operating? I would like to get a pump out.
      Answer: The pump out boat is available on Monday’s and Thursday’s, between 10 a.m. and 1 p.m. Contact Laishley Marina at 941-575-0142 for more information. You can hail them on VHF16/19. The marina suggests calling ahead and scheduling the pump out so they can be of the best service to you.
      The resident who took this photo said the staff who run the pump out boat gave them a reward card that is good at the following businesses: Burnt Store Marina, Fishermen’s Village Marina, Laishley Marina, Charlotte Harbor Yacht Club, Isles Yacht Club, West Marine-Punta Gorda, Porto Bello Restaurant, Village Fish Market and King Fisher Fleet. For more information about the marine disposal, click here

      Steve Johnson
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      Click Here To View the Western Florida Cruisers’ Net Marina Directory Listing For Isles Yacht Club

      Click Here To View the Western Florida Cruisers’ Net Marina Directory Listing For Fishermen’s Village

      Click Here To View the Western Florida Cruisers’ Net Marina Directory Listing For Laishley Park Marina

      Click Here To View the Western Florida Cruisers’ Net Marina Directory Listing For Charlotte Harbor Yacht Club

      Click Here To View the Western Florida Cruisers’ Net Anchorage Directory Listing For Punta Gorda Waterfront Anchorage

      Click Here To Open A Chart View Window, Zoomed To the Location of the Punta Gorda Waterfront

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    • Even More Discussion About Florida Mooring Fields

      We have previously published several strings of messages about the Florida Pilot Mooring Field program. Some hate it, some like it, and some are not sure exactly what to think, and just want additional information. Linked below you will discover a series of messages which recently appeared on the T&T (Trawlers and Trawlering) mailing list. As you will see, again, there is a wide range of opinions, but we found some of these notes extremely well thought-through, and definitely thought provoking.
      Note that some of these contributors are referring to the FWC (Florida Fish and Wildlife Commission) report on Florida Mooring Fields, which was recently published, and about which we will have more to say editorially soon!
      This series of messages is sooooo lengthy, instead of pasting them all below, we invite you to visit:

      /even-more-discussion-about-florida-mooring-fields

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    • Snake Island in Venice Inlet to be Saved, Venice, FL, Gulf Coast

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      Snake Island – Click for Chartview

      Efforts to save popular Snake Island in Venice Inlet have been underway since November and should be nearing completion. The island is reported to be a Native American archaeological site. The cost to taxpayers will be $400K, but most local boaters say the cost is justified. Snake Island lies in the northwest corner of the intersection of Venice Inlet and Western Florida Waterway at statute mile 58.5. For more on this story from WTSP News, go to: http://159.54.242.46/news/local/article/346693/8/Effort-to-save-shrinking-Snake-Island-set-to-begin

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      And also this article from the Herald Tribune: http://www.heraldtribune.com/article/20140112/ARTICLE/140119905/-1/RSS05?p=1&tc=pg&tc=ar#gsc.tab=0

      Click Here To Open A Chart View Window, Zoomed To the Location of Snake Island

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    • More Navigation Advice on Marco Island to Marathon

      Captains Dave and Nan Fuller offer good advice and recommendations of routes and stops on the sail from Marco Island to Marathon, as originally posted on the AGLCA Forum, www.greatloop.org.

      We made this leg of our Loop in August 2013, and it was the roughest open water we have yet encountered, probably because we were on a deadline to get > to the Keys. Our Carrabelle to Tarpon Springs leg was glassy smooth as we were patient and waited nearly 3 weeks for a suitable weather window. I mostly used NOAA and Weather Underground for my weather forecasts from Ft. Myers to the Keys but did not make a go-no go decision based on weather as it was predicted to remain the same for several days and it was within my personal tolerance of seas 2-3 feet. We had wind from the northeast and east during the three day trip from Ft. Myers to Islamorada. Day one, we traveled from Ft. Myers to Marco where we met a close friend and his wife for dinner and then the next day we left Marco for the Little Shark River anchorage in the Everglades. Everyone told us to beware of bugs, but there was
      sufficient wind blowing day and night so they were almost zero problem in August. I was even able to grill out after dusk and only had a few horseflies to deal with. We highly recommend Little Shark River as an anchorage as it is well protected in every direction except southwest and if you go a little deeper up river, it offers protection in every wind direction. The trade-off will be the amount of bugs to deal with. After spending one night at anchor, we continued around the Cape and to the Keys. We have friends in Islamorada, so we did not go to Marathon by boat. We spent a few days in Islamorada and rented a car to go to Key West and be tourists.
      If I take this route again, I will stay further offshore going around the Cape. We basically followed the boundaries of Everglades National Park and went over so much shallow water that I finally shut off my depth alarm. We never hit bottom, but this is an area where shallow water is the rule and the charted depth pretty much matched what we experienced. Interestingly, the closer we came to shore, the bumpier it became and the further off shore, the smoother. This was with a 25 MPH east wind. We had constant 2 foot seas with occasional 3 and 4 footers. I think that the bottom profile is such that because of a slow slope, it gives the wave energy extra lift making for steeper waves and the deeper water makes them more of a roller profile. Normally, when you are behind a reef, you experience smoother water than on the windward side, but that was not the case here. Waves were on
      our port forward quarter resulting in nearly constant spraying and were more bothersome than uncomfortable. However, our dinghy came loose and was thrashing about on the davits and we just had to let it swing as it was not safe to go on our swim platform to secure it. It did some damage to the
      davit mounts and bracing that required repairs, but the dinghy sustained zero damage.
      I am not an expert on weather in this area, but my understanding is that typically the winds are out of the northeast (bad weather) or east (prevailing) or even southeast (best possible for this leg). I understand it is rare to have winds out of the west quadrants unless associated with a storm. We spoke to one skipper in Marco who had come from Key West the previous day and said they got beat up by 6 footers in the same wind conditions, but they took a much deeper water track than hugging the coast as we did. There is only one area you will need to watch with a well-marked channel marking the opening between two reefs. You make an S turn and it is very easy – no problems. As you approach the Keys, crab pots are EVERYWHERE and can only be described as a mine field, even in the middle of the marked channel. Keep a sharp lookout, go slow, and forget your depth alarm – it will be useless.
      If you follow Tom’s weather musings for the Big Bend crossing, he posts a disclaimer that his advice is dispensed based on a specific boat with its characteristics and his tolerance for risk which clearly falls on the conservative side. I share his risk philosophy of being conservative as this is supposed to be fun boating – not a race or a delivery captain mission. Each skipper is responsible for their own decisions after gathering all available data. You should make your decision based on your personal risk tolerance, your boat’s ability to handle different sea conditions, your level of competence and training, and your personal tolerance for what conditions you are willing to accept. Keep in mind that this leg is open water and is a LONG way from help if something goes wrong. VHF radio coverage is spotty in places, and cell phones simply won’t work as you go around the Everglades. I personally carry an EPIRB just in case the VHF or cell phone won’t summon help. You should be prepared to be self-sufficient for this leg or travel with a buddy boat.
      If you can be patient and are not on a specific timeline, you can pick a suitable weather window and have a non-memorable open water trip to the Keys.
      Dave & Nan Ellen Fuller

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    • Praise for Pink Shell Resort Marina, Fort Myers Beach, FL

      Pink Shell Resort and Marina - Click for Chartview

      The Pink Shell Resort guards the southern shores of the Mantanzas Pass channel, west of Moss Marine, making this new marina the first facility encountered as one enters from the waters of the open Gulf. This fresh facility is clearly a GREAT addition to the cruising scene for the waters hard by the southerly genesis of the Western Florida ICW, and the westerly extreme of the Okeechobee Waterway/Caloosahatchee River.

      We stayed at Pink Shell January 22nd through the 27th. The weather was cool but it is a fantastic place to stay. Very friendly and helpful staff. As Marina guest you have access to all resort amenities. Heated pools, fitness center, steam room, spa bathrooms and showers etc. The beach is beautiful. There are restaurants on site and the public bus will take you to the local supermarket or Publix. The town of Ft. Myers Beach is within walking distance. A great place if you have family visiting. Great for children as well.
      Claudia Young

      Click Here To View the Western Florida Cruisers’ Net Marina Directory Listing For Pink Shell Resort Marina

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    • High Praise for Star Boat Shop, Arcadia, FL

      Captain DeGroot relates an example of exceptional professionalism in boat maintenance. Star Boat Shop does not have a website, but their address is 1480 NE Fiveash Rd, Arcadia, FL 34266, 863-494-5777. Arcadia is almost in the center of the state at the intersection of State Rd 70 and US 17.

      I have been sailing over 40 years, worked with many boat yards in the Great Lakes and Florida. And, as a yacht broker also worked with many independent contractors hired to do projects on mine and my client’s boats. After 20 years of ownership of a 1985 Irwin 43′, My wife and I decided we really wanted to freshen her up and repainting the mast and boom came up high on the list. I carefully researched many possible individuals and companies to do the task, and in Southwest Florida, one name kept being mentioned, “the Russians!”
      The “Russians” are actually the team from the Star Boat Shop, now of Arcadia Florida. Their owner is Arthur Anasov, now an American citizen who immigrated from the old Soviet Union. For the past many years they had been doing spectacular jobs, repainting hulls of vessels from a quansut building located in the Charlotte Harbor Boat Storage yard at Placida FL.
      When I contacted Arthur in the fall of 2011, I found him very pleasant and super knowledgeable about boats and boat painting, and racing, as he is a world class small boat racer, sailing in regattas around the world.
      After inspection of my mast and boom, and discussing a time frame, he quoted a very fair, reasonable price, and we scheduled the work.
      When completed in a few weeks, it looked like a brand new mast and boom. I had asked Arthur how long I could expect it to hold off the old corrosion, and he said three to five years. I felt that would be the best we could do with how corroded is was before the effort.
      Move forward one year to fall of 2012. Corrosion had begun already, in a few limited spots on the lower part of the mast and the seam of two sections of the boom. I called Arthur. In a few days, he came to the boat and looked and simply said, this should not be. Something was not done correctly and he would clean it up. We mutually decided to wait a year and evaluate it again before any clean-up work was done.
      Now in September of 2013 I again called Arthur, who was racing somewhere in the Baltic, but I got a message back from him, he would be in contact as soon as he returned stateside. Sure enough. He come over to the boat, a time table was set and work would be commencing.
      I figured a few hours would clean it up, and I would be happy with any effort. When Arthur and his crew arrived, they went to work. Five man days later, he announced he was satisfied, if I was. I was not just satisfied, I was impressed.
      I asked Arthur, how much do I owe you. He said, “NOTHING!” “And if it does it again in the next few years I’ll be back”.Speak of professional integrity! He and his crew did a beautiful job, as promised.
      If you have any need for hull, or mast painting or other major projects I suggest you consider Arthur Anasov of the Star Boat Shop. Give him a call at 941-204-0607, or email me and I will be proud to provide his contact information.
      Capt John D. DeGroot SV Independence

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      1. Woody Allen -  March 16, 2018 - 6:49 pm

        Shhh- Please don’t tell anyone.

        Arthur is a craftsman in the best sense of the word – but we want to keep him a secret to the the small boat world for ourselves and our boats

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    • Reports from Little Shark River, South of Marco Island, SW Florida Coastline

      Little Shark River Outer Anchorage - Click for Chartview

      Little Shark River is an interesting, but sometimes very buggy anchorage that lies well south of Everglades City and a short hop north of Cape Sable. It is one of the most backwater cruising possibilities in all of Florida. The SSECN recommends three Little Shark River anchorages in our Western Florida Anchorage Directory, but there are actually several dozen spots you might choose to drop the hook. These reports come to us from the Great Loop forum.

      Going south from Marco I. we have stopped at the Little Shark River. One time we found it to be buggy on warm, windless night. Every other time (about five) we have found it to be a pleasant, quiet stop. VERY remote with plenty of place to anchor.
      Mitch & Carole On Serendipity

      A good stop for the night when traveling out of Marco is Little Shark River. This breaks the trip up into two nice segments. When anchoring in Little Shark, go up the river 1/2 mile or so past the entrance. You will find good depths and good holding. Plan on a fast tidal current in both directions, inbound and outbound. This current will set you securely on your anchor for the night. Even with the cool temps currently being experienced, have screens ready for the bugs.
      Marty and Jerry Richardson onboard M/V Monarch

      Click Here To View the Western Florida Cruisers’ Net Anchorage Directory Listing For the Little Shark River Outer Anchorage

      Click Here To Open A Chart View Window, Zoomed To the Location of the Little Shark River Outer Anchorage

      Click Here To View the Western Florida Cruisers’ Net Anchorage Directory Listing For the Little Shark River Southern Fork Anchorage

      Click Here To Open A Chart View Window, Zoomed To the Location of the Little Shark River Southern Fork Anchorage

      Click Here To View the Western Florida Cruisers’ Net Anchorage Directory Listing For the Little Shark River Upper Anchorage

      Click Here To Open A Chart View Window, Zoomed To the Location of the Little Shark River Upper Anchorage

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    • Increased Shoaling and Local Advice on Big Sarasota Pass, Sarasota, FL – Western Florida Coastline

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      In the spring of 2013, we had a lengthy discussion on Big Sarasota Pass, /?p=111868. Now Captain Ray brings us valuable local knowledge.

      I am a local, and the pass is more than just dicey these days. Over the past year’¦last week we sailed our Mariner 31 outside and back, drawing 3’10’³, and saw 5’6’³ at high tide. That’s down from 7′ only a few months ago. Be careful if you must come into Big Pass, pretend you are a large barge and make wide turns around the floating markers on your way in.
      Captain Ray

      Click Here To Open A Chart View Window, Zoomed To the Location of Big Sarasota Pass

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    • Cruising From Marco Island to Marathon, Western Florida to the Keys

      Captains Lloyd and McKane offer good advice and recommendations of routes and stops on the sail from Marco Island to Marathon, as originally posted on the AGLCA Forum, www.greatloop.org.

      From Sanibel Island I usually head for Naples, then you can take an inside route behind Marco Island. Charted depth is 4′ but depth increases by 3′ at high tide. Pay attention after Bear Point bridge as daymark colors switch sides. A red daymark appears to be out of position but it is not! Definitely stop at Goodland, an old-time fishing village that is a marked contrast to the rest of Marco Island. Calusa Island Marina is within walking distance of restaurants.
      Some boaters recommend Everglades City but I usually go directly from Goodland to Little Shark River in Everglades National Park. This area of the park consists of mangrove Islands and hardwood hammocks, not acres of sawgrass that one usually associates with the Everglades. There is a very protected anchorage about 1.5 miles up river.
      I recommend a direct route from Little Shark River to Seven Mile Bridge and stop at Marathon.
      Alan Lloyd

      For weather we used the National Weather Service’s graphical forecast tool for Florida (http://graphical.weather.gov/sectors/florida.php#tabs). It shows wind, wave, precip forecasts in an easy format.
      As for going to Marathon, we overnighted at Middle Cape near Cape Sable which allowed us to get an early start. You get good protection and comfort when the wind is coming in from the E or NE. Some other loopers stayed at Snake River and left from there. In either case, stay inside the park’s waters as long as possible to stay away from the crab pot markers.
      For the passage, it is pretty much a straight run from market MG off Cape Sable to John Sawyer Bank (about 20 NM). Actually it’s not really a straight run. Florida Bay is covered/littered/blanketed with crab pot markers and requires a lot of weaving left and right. Take extra care navigating this area. I spoke with 2 other loopers in the past month who
      got their props fouled. We are staying at the Boathouse Marina and love it. It’s across from Vaca Cut, about 4 miles from Publix, etc. Have a safe voyage.
      Bob & Loretta McKane

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    • Report on Veterans Hospital Anchorage, Western Florida ICW Statute Mile 122

      Veterans Hospital Anchorage - Click for Chartview

      Veterans Hospital Anchorage lies northeast of the ICW’s flashing daybeacon #6.

      This is a nice anchorage with a few local boats but plenty of room at 6ft depths. Dinghy north back under the bridge where McDonalds’¦yes McDonalds ! has a very nice dock to tie to on the eastern shore. Near this is a Publix (currently closed(1-15-14) for an upgrade.) New Walgreens also nearby.
      Rich Estes

      Click Here To View the Eastern Florida Cruisers’ Net Marina Directory Listing For Hospital Anchorage

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    • Good Words for Snead Island Boat Works and Marina, Manatee River, Tampa Bay, Western Florida Coast


      Snead Island Boat Works - Click for Chartview

      Snead Island Boat Works and Marina, Palmetto, FL, is located on McKay Point in the Manatee River off Tampa Bay. 941-722-4450

      We left our boat at Snead Island Boatworks while we returned home for the holidays. They hauled the boat out, painted the bottom, waxed the hull and did engine maintenance work. When we returned yesterday, the boat was in the water waiting to continue our great loop adventure. We found the people at Snead Island Boatworks to be knowledgeable, friendly and charged a fair price for all the work that they did. We have no interest in Snead Island other than that of a satisfied customer.
      Sharon Simion

      We have been launching boats at Snead Island Boat Works for 38 years. They are professional, knowledgable, honest and consistent in their work. We gladly recommend them every chance we get. They are the best of the best.
      Ed Massey

      https://www.facebook.com/pages/Snead-Island-Boat-Works-Inc/118137701580521

      Click Here To Open A Chart View Window, Zoomed To the Location of Snead Island Boat Works

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    • Blu Mangrove Grill, Now Open at Riviera Dunes Marina (Manatee River, off southeastern Tampa Bay)

      Riviera Dunes Marina Just off Tampa Bay Owned and Operated by Boaters We are very pleased to note that SALTY SOUTHEAST CRUISERS’ NET SPONSOR, Riviera Dunes Marina, now boasts a new, on-site dining establishment, the Blu Mangrove Grill (941-479-7827). Don’t read the message below if you are hungry, unless, of course, you are in striking distance of this new dining attraction!

      Open Daily at 11am. Happy Hour Monday-Sunday 11-6pm 1/2 OFF!
      Blu Mangrove Grill, now open at Riviera Dunes Marina, offers a vast selection of steaks, chops, fowl, fresh seafood and authentic American barbecue and of course, we didn’t forget the accompaniments: crisp salads, savory soups, mouthwatering side dishes and a delicious selection of home-style desserts are not to be missed.
      Blu Mangrove Grill delivers the highest quality food and service, like our smoked infused cuisine featuring hardwood grilled favorites cooked low and slow over hickory and apple wood.
      Compliment your meal with one of our specialty drinks, domestic & import beers, or fine wines, while listening to Live Entertainment (See our calendar for daily music). We are looking forward to seating you soon!
      Happy Hour Monday-Sunday 11-6pm

      MONDAYS
      .75 cent Wings All Day. Happy Hour 11-6pm. Appetizers 1/2 off 3-6pm.
      TUESDAYS
      $15 Smoked Prime Rib until 11am-10pm. Happy Hour 11-6pm. Appetizers 1/2 off 3-6pm.
      WEDNESDAYS
      $35 Lobster Special All Day. Happy Hour 11-6pm. Appetizers 1/2 off 3-6pm.
      Ladies drink free select drinks from 9pm-1am!
      THURSDAYS
      $15 Full Rack of Ribs All Day. Happy Hour 11-6pm. Appetizers 1/2 off 3-6pm.
      FRIDAYS
      $50 All You Can Eat King Crab All Day. Happy Hour 11-6pm. Appetizers 1/2 off 3-6pm.
      SATURDAYS
      $35 All You Can Eat Snow Crab All Day. Happy Hour 11-6pm. Appetizers 1/2 off 3-6pm.
      SUNDAYS
      $5 Pulled Pork Sandwiches All Day & Pig Roast. Happy Hour 11-6pm. Appetizers 1/2 off 3-6pm

      Click Here To View the Western Florida Cruisers’ Net Marina Directory Listing For Riviera Dunes Marina Resort

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    • More Good Words for Turtle Cove Marina, Tarpon Springs, FL on the Anclote River

      Anclote Key, Anclote River and the charming community of Tarpon Springs lies astride the northern terminus of the Western Florida ICW. So, this is either the jumping off point when headed north across the waterwayless Big Bend region of Western Florida, or the first possible stop when cruising south from Carrabelle, Dog Island or Apalachicola.
      Turtle Cove is one of the newest marinas in Tarpon Springs. We had occasion to visit here in February of 2012, and were favorably impressed. Most of the dockage for transient craft is located on an artificial island jutting out into the creek, and connected to the mainland by a narrow, but auto accessible neck. Neat concept!
      I might also add that all the downtown Tarpon Springs attractions, including the MANY superb Greek style restaurants are within easy walking distance, and there is a fresh seafood market literally next door to Turtle Cove. Yummmmmm!

      We stayed at Turtle Cove 2 years ago and are looking at returning for a week in just a couple of days. Top notch marina, top notch people.
      Jim and Lisa Favors

      I agree, Turtle Cove is one of the best, and Tarpon Springs is always loads of fun. Be careful of your depth, if you draw more than 4′ then wait for the tide. Don’t miss the beaches at Anclote Key while you are up this way.
      Cambren Davis

      Click Here To View the Western Florida Cruisers’ Net Marina Directory Listing For Turtle Cove Marina

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    • Praise for City’s Loaner Bike Program, Punta Gorda, FL, Charlotte Harbor, Western Florida

      Punta Gorda Waterfront - Click for Chartview

      Punta Gorda, Florida - a GREAT cruising destination Punta Gorda’s FREE loaner bike program, described by Nancy Johnson, CEO of Team Punta Gorda and Lorah Steiner, Director of Tourism, is a real boon to transient cruisers! Bikes are available within easy walking distance of the Punta Gorda Waterfront Anchorage public dinghy dock located just off Gilchrist Park which is between Fishermens Village and the twin Tamiami Bridges.
      Biking is a great way to visit nearby attractions and to stretch your legs after several days on the water. Another excellent service-to-boaters provided by the city of Punta Gorda, A SALTY SOUTHEAST CRUISERS’ NET SPONSOR!

      The free loaner bike program had 1700 riders ytd in 2013. It’s very popular and easy to use. Our bikes are also at Fisherman’s Village and the Isles Yacht Club for cruisers that use their docks. This year, our new public floating dinghy docks were installed off of Gilchrist Park making landing much, much easier than before.
      Best Wishes,
      Nancy

      Yes. Absolutely! All they need is a credit card and driver’s license, but they won’t be charged. They can walk about 10 feet from the pier and get their bikes! There are two other locations within walking distance of the pier – the Four Points Sheraton and the Wyvern Hotel. You do NOT need to be a guest of those hotels to use the bikes.
      Anyone can take out a FREE bike for the day with helmet and lock included. Almost everything Punta Gorda can be accessed by bicycle. All you need is a credit card and drivers license for security purposes but you won’t be charged if the bike is returned in good condition. I used to take them out all the time. They are a great way to see the town.
      I think all of the bikes have baskets as well for transporting small items. I used to love to ride them to the farmer’s markets – one on Saturday and one on Sunday – or to Fisherman’s Village. The more intrepid can bike to Ponce De Leon Park – about a five mile bike ride, I think, to visit the Peace River Wildlife Center – one of my favorite attractions. It’s mostly all flat, easily bike-able terrain with sidewalks and bike paths.
      Boat and Bike!!
      Lorah Steiner
      Director of Tourism

      Sharon and I were in Punta Gorda in April and enjoyed these bikes. Its a great biking area and the bikes have pretty good size baskets and locks. If you’re looking for Cannondale’s, you won’t be happy, but if you want a nice piece of fat tire free transportation and an easy terrain to bike in (LOTS of cruiser amenities in range) this is a destination to add.
      John Martis

      And, here is a map sent to us by our partners in Punta Gorda. Note the diamond shaped symbols which denote where you can pick up the loaner bikes. And so, it looks as if cruisers who dinghy ashore at Gilchrist Park will either need to walk northeast to pick up bikes hard by the Highway 41 bridges, or southwest to Fishermens Village.


       
      There is definitely a nice new floating dinghy dock at Gilchrist Park. I used it last month. From the dinghy dock you can walk southwest along the shore to Fisherman’s Village Marina where you can pick up a free loaner bicycle to ride around town.
      This link gets you to a chart that is not yet updated but the dinghy dock is between 3 and 9 (closer to 9) on the Welcome Chart.
      http://boat2puntagorda.com/WelcomeChart.html
      LivingtheDream

      Click Here To View the Western Florida Cruisers’ Net Anchorage Directory Listing For Punta Gorda Waterfront Anchorage

      Click Here To View the Western Florida Cruisers’ Net Marina Directory Listing For Fishermen’s Village

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    • Cruising Western Florida’s Big Bend Region

      I have often said, but it’s worth repeating, that if you get six veteran cruisers together, and ask their opinion about the best way to cruise the waterwayless “Big Bend” region of Western Florida, moving north from Tarpon Springs and Anclote Key to Dog Island and the charming village of Carrabelle (or the other way around), you will get eight different opinions.
      On the one hand, some argue for “cutting the corner” and heading directly from Dog Island straight for Anclote Key or Clearwater. There are a whole set of issues around this strategy such as what time of day (or night) do you depart, and the presence of crabpots and fish traps as one approaches Anclote Key.
      The other strategy is to follow the Big Bend Coastline, keeping WELL offshore, to avoid the large shelf of shallows which jut out from this portion of the Florida coastline. This plan allows visits to the Big Bend rivers, which pierce the coastline at regular intervals, and are joined to the Gulf’s deeper waters by marked, dredged channels. Following some of these passages can be a real navigational challenge, and some of these stream’s entrance cuts carry only 4 to 4 1/2 feet of water. Others are somewhat deeper, but none are a proverbial walk in the park.
      Below, you will find excerpts from a recent string of messages which have appeared on the “GL” (Great Loop) mailing list. As you will see, a full spectrum of opinions is on display here as well.

      Although most “loopers” seem to bypass the Big Bend, we are interested in actually experiencing some of the old Florida areas that are apparently still very much alive and well, if water depth and weather permits.
      Sanderling is currently in Carrabelle at the C-Quarters marina while we’re enjoying a few months at home. We want to resume our cruise homeward to Merritt Island once the winter winds subside and water levels return to near “normal,” temps warm up, and daylight is longer – probably March.
      We have visited St. Marks, Steinhatchee, and Cedar Key by car on our way to and from Sanderling, and would like to visit all three on our way around the Big Bend to Tarpon Springs. Might also consider Crystal River.
      At least one boater has visited both St. Marks and Steinhatchee in a DF 49 with a 5 foot draft (our DF 41 is 4 feet).
      Has anyone cruised into those three areas (St. Marks, Steinhatchee, Cedar Key) or Crystal River in a boat with 4+ foot draft, and what was your experience with the water depths and anchorages/marinas?
      Any thoughts or suggestions welcome!
      Judy Young & Bob McLeran

      When we were in Carrabelle my assessment was that the northerly winds that are favorable to leave will also blow or the water in those ports. I was trying hard to avoid the long overnight run and kept looking at all options very seriously.
      I was warned by the guys at C Quarters that Steinhatchee entrance can get quite shallow even on a good day. They tried to talk me out of going there. Then add to it the effect of the North wind which will make it even lower. I saw it as a crap shoot and decided against putting myself in that potential situation.
      I chose the overnight crossing and went straight to Clearwater instead of Tarpon Springs. It was a small additional time but there are far less crab pots approaching Clearwater.
      Left the bay near Carrabelle at noon and arrived at the Wrights at 3rd next day.
      R.

      We had a DeFever 44+5 with a 4′-7″ draft (5′ w/Admiral’s stuff). Cannot attest to the depths now, but we went into St. Marks in May of 2006 & had no problems. Also, no problems with Steinhatchee & Cedar Key in December of 2007. Best I remember we went into both places on a rising tide. Never did go into Crystal River, but had friends that have been in there with 4′-6″ draft & had no trouble.
      Don’t believe I would make the trip today into any of those places until the wind blows the water back into the bays.
      Eddie Lomenick
      Eagle’s Nest

      Leaving for the Big Bend in March is a good plan, better later in the month once the prevailing winds shift back to the southeast. That will return your channels to their charted depths. Ideally, you can leave one port and arrive in the next at high tide to reduce the margin of risk. Those tides are about 13 hours apart and if you hit the time just right, you can ride your departing high tide all down the coast. I have been through the Big Bend in a 4 foot draft sailboat and this strategy worked well. April would even work better for you.
      Stay safe,
      Tom

      I’ve been in and out of a few but not all of these places. I think that if you can plan your arrival or departures around the tides you will be OK with 4′ draft and a single screw. The problem is that north winds blow all the water out and if you are unlucky enough to combine that with spring lows your draft will most assuredly exceed your depth.
      Crystal River is typical of many Big Bend rivers. It is about eight miles in (and back out) from the Gulf, which makes the day’s travel a couple hours longer than you might think.
      Regards,
      Randy Pickelmann
      Morning Star

      We have cruised the Big Bend several times in Silver Boots drawing five feet with stops at Steinhatchie and Cedar Key.
      We have found we need one foot above winter low tide to enter the Steinhatchie channel. There is one floating green channel marker and this is the low spot. We have stayed at the Sea Hag marina.
      We have entered Cedar Key from both north and south and do not suggest the north west channel because of shoaling. At high tide we have scraped bottom. The south Main Ship channel has plenty of depth but becomes tricky as you approach the intersection with the north west channel. Study the charts carefully and understand the zig zag route you will follow. No marina and very little protection in this anchorage.
      Jim & Pam Shipp
      aboard Silver Boots

      Steinhatchee, FL. is our hailing port , we sail in and out frequently. We have two sailboats there a 50 ft. Gulf Star Texas, and a Islander 36 that both draw six feet. As long as you keep it in the channel there is no problem navigating in and out here. We’ve also been in and out of Crystal River a few times with these vessels. You need a good peak high tide going in as there is a shallow sand bar to cross, or there was last time we went in?
      Fair Winds,
      R. Bideaux
      La victoria

      To me, the draft of your boat is the biggest consideration. My boat draws 5 feet and I always cut across, usually from Carravelle to Clearwater, or vice versa. If you are not in a hurry, don’t just wait for the weather, wait for a night with a full or nearly full moon, and it will make the night passage a lot more fun. It’s an easy one nighter.
      With less draft, there are several places that would be fun to stop and visit.
      R. Holiman

      For boats planning to arrive Crystal River – We live in Crystal River and home port our 44′ Island Gypsy here. We draft 4.5 feet. With the low tides we are having now, we only move at near high tide and even then there are several areas in the river that we clear with only 2.5 feet under the keel. The river will lull you with stretches of 12-14 feet and suddenly 2 to 3 feet under your keel – go slow. The channel inbound from CR1 to Shell Island also has several areas with the same depths so from CR1 to Kings Bay needs to be done slowly. Things will improve with the arrival of spring tides but for now deeper draft boats should exercise caution and only transit at high tide.
      Doug & Virginia Hall M/V Lotus

      WE have sailed the St. Marks/Shell Point area for years. St. Marks is not problem, the channel is dredged for large fuel barges and has plenty of water. Shields Marina is a very nice facility and anchoring well up the St. Marks river is a wonderful wilderness experience. There is plenty of water up the river to the large powerlines that cross just south of US 98 bridge. The St. Mark’s wildlife refuge borders the east side of the river and the flloodplain on the west has a few docks and houses, but you cannot see most of the houses. When anchor overnight you are usually alone are with light traffic and you really think you are in a jungle. This is truly an undiscovered part of the big bend. Try the Riverside restaurant which has music most weekends and a transient dock.
      Phil Werndli
      MSV Banana Wind

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    • Watch for Crab Pots in Florida Bay, Marathon to Cape Sable

      The passage from East Cape on Cape Sable eastward across Florida Bay to Marathon in the Florida Keys requires a sharp lookout at best and the presence of crab pot floats only adds to that necessity.

      Florida Bay from Cape Sable to within 2-3 miles of Marathon is carpeted with crab pot markers. While we dodged them all, I heard that 2 boats got their props wrapped during their crossings.
      Bob & Loretta McKane.

      Florida rule 68B-13.008: Gear, Trap Construction and so forth states in part:No more than 5 feet of any buoy line attached to a buoy used to mark a stone crab trap or attached to a trotline shall float on the surface of the water.
      I have personally wrapped up in traps with 50′ of floating line.
      FWC doesn’t seem to enforce this rule or the other one about dropping pots in channels. I’ve had problems with them crossing under the 7 mile bridge as well. It’s a mine field in the channel.
      Larry Annen

      Once you leave Little Shark, travel down the shoreline to Cape Sable and then take a course for John Sawyer Bank just on the north side of Marathon. From their you can easily follow the ICW to 7 Mile Bridge and then head back in Boot Key Harbor. There really isn’t an exact route. Plan on water depths of 8 to 14 feet and LOTS of crab and lobster traps to dodge. We look for an wind out of the eastern quadrant to run down the coast and then leave Little Shark early to get calm seas. We watch for a time when there are 2 footers or less. Dodging pots in seas is a real pain.
      Marty and Jerry Richardson onboard M/V Monarch

      If you run inside the Everglades Park limits you will have no Crab Pots, but once you get south of the Everglades Park watch out for them.
      Mitch & Carole On Serendipity in FT. Myers

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    • Words of Caution for Everglades National Park Marina in Flamingo, FL


      Flamingo Marina - Click for Chartview

      Flamingo Marina is part of the Cape Sable Everglades National Park Service and is located in Flamingo, FL. The contact number for the Marina is 239-695-3101. However, because of the severe shoaling in the entrance channel, this facility is not recommended by the SSECN evergladesnationalparkboattoursflamingo.com/’Ž

      We came here from Flamingo. While the national park service people there are very helpful, the concessionaire who runs the marina is not. Phones are not answered and go into voice mail which is not returned for a day+. The channel is badly shoaled near buoys 13/15′. No one responds to a hail on channel 16 so you are left on your own to find a place to dock. The utility pedestals are infested with hornets, half with no electricity, the others with no water. This could be a great place to visit, but should only be used if the Florida Bay is too snotty to cross.
      Bob & Loretta McKane.

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    • More on Shoaling on Southern Foot of Sunshine Skyway Channel, at the Mouth of Tampa Bay (near Western Florida ICW St. M. 98)

      These reports are in response to a Navigation Alert that SSECN posted in May of 2013, /?p=114205. The cautions issued at that time are still applicable as Captains Hines and Davis attest.

      We came this way five days ago and the shoaling at this point is worse than I have ever seen it. The middle of the channel looked like a sandbar and could not have had more than three feet of water over it. We draw 4 and 1/2 feet and came to a stop. There was a darker strip of deeper water to the east well outside the channel. We picked our way through by sight and feel and made it past the danger area. It was about mid tide on a strong ebbing tide so it was no place to run around. Caution is strongly advised.
      Brad Hines

      I commented a while back about shoaling adjacent to green 3; since then it seems they have removed the floating red nuns which diverted traffic more easterly near the mouth of the channel. I went through a few days ago and thought I would run aground. Somehow just when the depthfinder said we were done, I got across. This was a little below mid tide, I draw 4.5 feet. Do stay away from green 3, it is still shallow there also.
      Cambren Davis

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    • St. Petersburg Municipal Marina Recommended (Tampa Bay)

      Slips are now available!! On the brand new Dock 5. For information please call (727) 893-7329 or 800 782 8350 What a good description of one of the finest municipal marinas I have ever reviewed in my 34 years of cruising guide authorship. As Captain Pica notes, cruisers should NOT overlook a winter stay (or any other time of year, for that matter) at SALTY SOUTHEAST CRUISERS’ NET SPONSOR, St. Petersburg Municipal Marina. Want to know why? Read on!

      I am amazed by the number of cruiser “snow birds” that skip St. Petersburg Municipal Harbor (an approved live aboard marina) as a “wintering over” port. I guess 5 miles up Tampa Bay is too far off the GICW for many. We and several of our fellow cruisers have found it to be a real nugget of a spot to winter over. If you like beautiful waterfront parks with walking and bike paths and all the conveniences of City amenities you would like St Pete. You are in the easy walking middle of a vibrant big little City surrounded by an urban waterfront park hosting numerous activities all winter long. Easy walking to a major college, Nice Publix 3 blocks from marina, nice air park, the largest farmers market on the Gulf, Salvador Dali Museum, Chahuly Collection, glass hot shop, art classes, Mahaffey Center for the performing Arts, other museums, Vinoy Hotel, a large shopping Cinema Complex, many, many shops, quality restaurants, Sports arenas e.g. Tropicana field, 6 blocks from a major medical complex. etc., etc.etc. Permitted parking is available for marina residents convenient to the docks which are secured and have camera surveillance. Pump out boat service included in dock fee. 50 cent trolley ride to beaches. 20 car mins from Tampa International Airport.
      The only draw back is that it can fill so requires some planning.ahead although the Harborage is another option only 6 blocks away. St Pete also has many highly skilled boat repair technicians because of it’s history as a boat building venue. A Yard is available in Salt creek where major restorations can be done.
      The winters are very mild but water too cold for me to swim in but hardier souls do swim. Temperatures are very pleasant and cold snaps unusual. Oddly we puzzle over the lack of bugs that had us leaving the boat open many times? Not a complaint for sure
      Joe Pica
      Carolyn Ann GH N-37

      We couldn’t agree more! Downtown St. Petersburg, with its dozens of sidewalk cafés and its easy-going style, is the closest thing to a European city a cruiser will find on this side of the pond. And St. Pete Municipal Marina is right in the middle of it all! We’re as happy as clams to be here for the winter.
      Jody Argo and Rick Schroath
      and Skipper
      SV Moment of Zen

      Click Here To View the Western Florida Cruisers’ Net Marina Directory Listing For St. Petersburg Municipal Marina

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    • Shoaling Reported South of Tom Adams Bridge, Lemon Bay, Western Florida ICW Statute Mile 43.5


      Englewood Beach Anchorage - Click for Chartview

      While Captain Sharrett’s caution lacks a specific location for the sandbar where he grounded, we have had previous reports of shoaling in Lemon Bay south of Tom Adams Bridge. If you look very closely, you can see the “7” in Captain Sharrett’s attached photo. The admonition is to proceed with caution in the area immediately south of the bridge and when entering the Englewood Beach Anchorage southwest of the bridge..

      Good afternoon,
      I’d like to notify SSEC members of water depth SW of Tom Adams Bridge on the GICW.
      Based on Dozier’s 2013 Waterway Guide, we anchored without problems mid-afternoon 12/17 approx 350 yds WSW of area that shows 7′ deep on the attached image. Our depth at anchorage was not less than 6.5′ thru the next Tide cycle.
      We weighed anchor at 0845 12/18, approx 10 minutes after low tide. At 0850 on a heading of 025T , to come into the ICW, we ran aground on a mud bar in 3.5′ of water.
      With another hour of incoming tide, the wake of a passing boat, and our main 75% out, we plowed out.
      Note, I do NOT fault the WWGuide. It’s been spot-on with everything, & track out was nearly on top of track in. Just a heads up for all.
      Best regards & Merry Christmas.
      Patrick & Jolene Sharrett
      Aboard Suite Jolene

      I frequent this area in a 44-foot power boat. If you look at the chart you can clearly see the `mud bar’ that separates his anchor area from the ICW. To avoid that mud bar you must continue in a northeast direction, closer to the south side of the bridge before cutting over to the ICW. Plus you must be aware of the extreme swings of the Spring Tides, as December 17th created a VERY low tide that morning:
      `The tide heights were 1.6 ft, -0.3 ft, 1.0 ft and 0.7 ft. We can compare these levels with the maximum high tide recorded in the tide tables for Englewood (Lemon Bay) which is of 2.0 ft and a minimum height of -0.7 ft.’
      That stretch of ICW thru the Lemon Bay area is narrow and while digging the channel, they piled spoil along the edges of the dredged channel. Great care, especially in windy conditions, must be taken to stay in the narrow channel. You must `read the water’ in that area, similar to navigating the Florida Keys.
      Joe Curley

      We were just in that anchorage on 12-26/12-28 2013. When passing south under the Tom Adams bridge continue south about 400′ to N 26 55.974 W 082 21.117 (by the big sign) and then make your turn in towards the anchorage.
      You will see the boats anchored along the small island to your port side, head in and pass close behind these boats on the channel side. Follow the channel around to the left as there is an unmarked shoal in the center of the small bay.
      We draw 4′ 6’³ and had plenty of depth at MLW.
      This is a ‘˜No Wake’ zone, and a nice anchorage. It’s a bit crowded though. Short dinghy ride to a couple of restaurants and bars, or over to Stump Pass. If you anchor where you have a good view of the shoal in the middle of the small bay, that’s pretty entertaining as well.
      Larry Annen

      Click Here To View the Eastern Florida Cruisers’ Net Marina Directory Listing For Englewood Beach Anchorage

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