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    • Confirmation of Low Water Shallow Depths at Entrance to Suwanee River (Western Florida, Big Bend Region)

      There have been MANY other postings here on the SSECN about a shallow water bar at the entrance to the Suwanee River, from the Gulf’s waters. Never before, however, have we heard of someone with a draft of 15.5 inches having problems. Looks like Tranqilo found deeper water with a bit of work.
      And, their note about “avoiding all shoals” may be a bit optimistic. I have never found more than 4 1/2 feet of water over the entrance bar a low tide.

      Our draft is 15.5 inches. We had 1 problem with shoaling at low tide coming out of Suwannee River. We are able to pole back into deep water with a boat hook and a zodiac paddle. A route can be plotted that avoids all shoals. Try a mid tide for entry into any of the well-marked channels to these out of the way places.
      Tranquilo

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    • A Word From the New Director of Marker One Marina (Western Florida ICW, Statute Mile 142)

      Captain Steve Arndt, author of the message below, and the new dockmaster at Marker One Marina, gained a superb reputation for his welcoming, can-do attitude towards all cruisers during his former directorship at Bay Point Marina in Panama City, Florida. With Captain Steve at the helm, we feel strongly that things will look up very quickly at Marker One.

      Now you’ll be able to enjoy that same level of friendliness and service at a new location a few miles farther south! Marker 1 Marina, (http://www.marker1marina.com – my new home in Dunedin, FL) is located on the [Western Florida] ICW just north of Clearwater and is a wonderful stop along the Loop. With grocery stores, restaurants, banks and thrift stores just a few blocks away, you’ll find just about everything you need close by. Caladesi Island State Park (recently named the Best Beach in America) is just a short kayak or dingy ride away. Meanwhile the town of Dunedin is proud of their Scottish roots and has a diverse selection of bars, restaurants and shops that just beg to be explored. And with 300 feet of lay along transient dock, private showers and 24 hour security, your boat will feel right at home, too.
      I look forward to sharing my new hometown with many of you in the coming years!
      Thanks,
      Steve Arndt
      Director, Marker 1 Marina

      Click Here To View the Westerb Florida Cruisers’ Net Marina Directory Listing For Marker One Marina

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    • Millers Marina and the Suwanee River

      The Suwanee River is arguably, along with the Withlacoochee River, the most beautiful of the Western Florida Big Bend rivers. The Suwanee offers many superb anchorages, and one basic marina.
      HOWEVER, there is an entrance bar which carries a slim 4-feet, or even slightly less, at MLW. Once on the stream’s interior reaches, depths improve considerably, but you may have to work the tides to make good your entry and egress!
      Like Captains Judith and Paul, I HIGHLY RECOMMEND the seafood at Salty Creek Fish Company restaurant. Year in and year out, it’s been some of the very best I’ve ever had!
      See you there!

      The wild and beautiful Suwanee River was next on the list, bypassing Cedar Key about which we had not heard good things. We stopped at Miller’s Marina for fuel and a pumpout. This is a very basic place on a lovely pool approached from the river by a leafy narrow canal. A short walk to The Salt River Seafood Company Restaurant provided us with a delicious lunch. We understand they will let you stay the night at their dock for free if you eat there. 350 people call this village home with 750 vacation homes–small is an overstatement. Predicted stormy weather prevented our anchoring out up the Suwannee which we very much wish we had been able to do–you know, the song and all!
      Judith and Paul
      Tranquilo
      26′ C-Dory

      Click Here To View the Western Florida Cruisers’ Net Marina Directory Listing For Millers Marina

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    • Twin Rivers Marina (on the Crystal River – Western Florida Big Bend Region)

      Personally, I prefer Pete’s Pier, farther upstream on Crystal River, to Twin Rivers Marina, but, hey, that’s just me, and it is certainly a far longer cruise from the Gulf to reach Pete’s. So, read up on both, and make your decision accordingly.

      After a few hours of being hammered on the open Gulf, we slipped into the first marina on Crystal River, Twin Rivers Marina. They are 6 miles from town, but had a floating dock for us which we prefer, being so small. One
      could stay in town at Pete’s Pier. TRW is a full service marina, and we need a wiper repair and a stove repair after our Gulf ride. Crystal River is home to the largest herd of manatees in Florida. Photographing manatees
      is similar to dolphins–as soon as you focus, they are gone.
      We are waiting here for a window to get down to Tarpon Springs and back on the ICW. We have met friendly people and had quiet, secure havens and would highly recommend Florida’s “Forgotten Coast” to complete your Loop experience.
      Judith and Paul
      Tranquilo
      26′ C-Dory

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    • Sea Hag Marina (Steinhatchee River – Western Florida Big Bend Region)

      Sea Hag Marina is the best facility for cruising size craft on the Big Bend’s Steinhatchee River. While, as is usual with Big Bend Rivers, the Steinhatchee entrance channel is a long, drawn-out affair, from the deeper Gulf waters, it is well marked and perhaps the deepest of the Big Bend river channels.

      Next we went to Sea Hag marina in Steinhatchee. There is a post office, good grocery store and several restaurants. Fiddler’s Restaurant will come to the marina, pick you up and bring you back. Delicious seafood dinner. We took our zodiac up the river for a few hours as the weather was not condusive for anchoring out.
      Judith and Paul
      Tranquilo
      26′ C-Dory

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    • Shields Marina (Western Florida Big Bend Region – off the St. Marks River)

      It’s a long trek down a well marked channel from the waters of the Northern Gulf to reach Shield’s Marina, but it’s worth it. We have always found this to be a superior marina.
      I’m particularly intrigued by Captain Judith’s reference to the “new Shields Marina.” Perhaps there have been improvements here since I last visited. Anyone have more info about that?

      Our first stop was St. Mark’s (20 miles south of Tallahassee), staying at the new Shield’s Marina (showers/laundry/well stocked chandlery/full service) and a couple of anchorages in the beautiful St. Mark’s River. We lunched at the Riverside (Paradise) Cafe, walked the park, museum/fort, and the railroad converted to bike path. The area/fort has been significant historically since the 1500’s (and 12,000 yrs before) under the control of 9 different cultures. The area provided the most important salt for the Confederate troups. They have a post office and a limited grocery store and are the heart of the Stone Crab industry with a festival in October. A man came to talk with us for awhile and loaned us his car to go to the St. Mark’s Wildlife Preserve and The Lighthouse. We saw many alligators sunning. We found out later, the owner will loan you his car for Walmart or the lighthouse/nature preserve tour.
      Judith and Paul
      Tranquilo
      26′ C-Dory

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    • Great Account of Cruising Western Florida’s Big Bend Region, North to South

      I’ve said it before, but it’s worth repeating. Get a dozen veteran cruisers together, put forward the question about the best way to cross Western Florida’s waterwayless “Big Bend” region, and you’ll get fourteen different opinions. For those not familiar with these waters, it’s basically a question of whether to cut the corner, if southbound, and head directly for Anclote Key or Clearwater (this often involves an overnight passage), or, staying well offshore, follow the Big Bend coastline around, with the opportunity to anchor or moor on one of the regional rivers. Almost all of these are naturally beautiful, but all have long, torturous, and sometimes shallow entrance channels from the open Gulf.
      Captains Judith and Paul give one of the best arguments below I’ve heard in some time as to the good attributes of taking the Big Bend coastline route.

      We opted to travel The Big Bend from Carrabelle to Tarpon Springs. The distance is greater than the cross-Gulf trek, but well worth it. This area is of historical significance and is comprised of small/tiny fishing villages among marsh, cypress, fir, hardwoods, palm trees and alligators, not to mention dolphins and a myriad of sea/woods birds. Fishing is the name of the game here. There were large, deep draft boats in all the marinas, but one would have to watch the tides. This would be a much better trip if it were a bit earlier in the year before the northerlies arrive. The ubiquitous crab pots/fishing pots are easily seen and avoided
      as long as the seas are 1-2′ and the sun is not in your eyes.
      Our first stop was St. Mark’s (20 miles south of Tallahassee), staying at the new Shield’s Marina (showers/laundry/well stocked chandlery/full service) and a couple of anchorages in the beautiful St. Mark’s River. We lunched at the Riverside (Paradise) Cafe, walked the park, museum/fort, and the railroad converted to bike path. The area/fort has been significant historically since the 1500’s (and 12,000 yrs before) under the control of 9 different cultures. The area provided the most important salt for the Confederate troups. They have a post office and a limited grocery store and are the heart of the Stone Crab industry with a festival in October. A man came to talk with us for awhile and loaned us his car to go to the St. Mark’s Wildlife Preserve and The Lighthouse. We saw many alligators sunning. We found out later, the owner will loan you his car for Walmart or the lighthouse/nature preserve tour.
      Next we went to Sea Hag marina in Steinhatchee. There is a post office, good grocery store and several restaurants. Fiddler’s Restaurant will come to the marina, pick you up and bring you back. Delicious seafood dinner. We took our zodiac up the river for a few hours as the weather was not condusive for anchoring out.
      The wild and beautiful Suwanee River was next on the list, bypassing Cedar Key about which we had not heard good things. We stopped at Miller’s Marina for fuel and a pumpout. This is a very basic place on a lovely pool approached from the river by a leafy narrow canal. A short walk to The Salt River Seafood Company Restaurant provided us with a delicious lunch. We understand they will let you stay the night at their dock for free if you eat there. 350 people call this village home with 750 vacation homes–small is an overstatement. Predicted stormy weather prevented our anchoring out up the Suwannee which we very much wish we had been able to do–you know, the song and all!
      After a few hours of being hammered on the open Gulf, we slipped into the first marina on Crystal River, Twin Rivers Marina. They are 6 miles from town, but had a floating dock for us which we prefer, being so small. One
      could stay in town at Pete’s Pier. TRW is a full service marina, and we need a wiper repair and a stove repair after our Gulf ride. Crystal River is home to the largest herd of manatees in Florida. Photographing manatees
      is similar to dolphins–as soon as you focus, they are gone.
      We are waiting here for a window to get down to Tarpon Springs and back on the ICW. We have met friendly people and had quiet, secure havens and would highly recommend Florida’s “Forgotten Coast” to complete your Loop experience.
      Judith and Paul
      Tranquilo
      26′ C-Dory

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      Click Here To View the Western Florida Cruisers’ Net Marina Directory Listing For Sea Hag Marina

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      Click Here To View the Western Florida Cruisers’ Net Marina Directory Listing For Millers Marina

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      Click Here To View the Western Florida Cruisers’ Net Marina Directory Listing For Twin Rivers Marina

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      Click Here To View the Western Florida Cruisers’ Net Marina Directory Listing For Pete’s Pier

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    • High Praise for Marina Jacks, Sarasota, FL, Statute Mile 73

      Everyone refers to the large, downtown Sarasota, Florida “city marina” as “Marina Jacks” but, in reality, that is the name of the on-site restaurant, and the maritime part of the operation is officially known as “Marina Operations.” For twenty years, I’ve never heard a single, fellow cruiser use this official moniker.
      Whatever you call it, the food at Marina Jacks is certainly good, In March of 2012, I had the pleasure of speaking to the Sarasota Power Squadron, upstairs at Marina Jacks. A GOOD time was had by all, particularly yours truly!

      We had just started exploring the Gulf Coast, the first fuel stop being Marina Jacks. Our experience was so pleasant that we decided to extend our stay (with 6 kids in tow this time). The dock manager (Sam), and deck hand who assisted us (Keith), were so welcoming that it was almost disconcerting to us New Yorker’s ‘“ being generally accustomed to a more `reserved’ attitude at local marinas, yc’s and fuel docks. If you’re in the Sarasota area and looking for a very family friendly, spotlessly clean, & welcoming environment ‘“ Marina Jack’s is the place.
      Paul & Hakuna Matata’s crew

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    • In Praise of Cruising Western Florida’s Ten Thousand Island Region (south of Marco Island, FL)

      I agree with everything that Captain Jim says below about cruising the anchorage rich waters of the Ten Thousand Island region. Just know there is also a LOT of shallow water here. We strongly recommend that you have a well functioning GPS chart plotter aboard and operating whenever you cruise the Ten Thousand Islands!

      As you’re working your way south (or in the planning stages) you might want to take a closer look at the Everglades. If you like the beauty of unspoiled nature you could spend time anchoring out and or exploring the many Passes that work back into the Everglades and don’t forget the Rod and Gun Club in Everglades City.
      Jim

      Click Here To View our Western Florida Cruisers’ Net Anchorage Directory Listing for the Ten Thousand Island Region and Cape Sable

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    • Warning of Less Than Ideal Depths in Western Florida’s Ten Thousand Island Region (south of Marco Island, FL)

      Captain Chuck knows whereof he speaks when he cautions against shallow water in the Ten Thousand Islands region of the Western Florida coastline, south of Marco Island. There are VERY FEW aids to navigation in this region, and, with some notable exceptions, waters of less than 5-foot depths, are common. Check out our Western Florida Anchorage Directory for this region (linked below), to discover some places where cruising size and draft vessels can drop the hook safely, at least, that is, if you have a well functioning GPS chartplotter aboard!

      We just came down to the Keys from Goodland after spending the last year in the Fort Myers, Naples, Marco Island area. What a great cruising area. The only thing I would ad is to watch your draft if cruising around the 10,000 Islands. It can get pretty skinny in spots,
      including the channel up to Everglades City at low tide. It’s best to check with the Rod and Gun Club for the shallow spots coming in the channel.
      Chuck

      Click Here To View our Western Florida Cruisers’ Net Anchorage Directory Listing for the Ten Thousand Island Region and Cape Sable

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    • Little Shark River Southern Fork Anchorage

      Looks like Captains Ken and Pat are reporting on (or near) the second anchorage we recommend on Little Shark River moving upstream from the stream’s mouth. In our “Western Florida Anchorage Directory” (follow link below), we recommend dropping the hook north of the “island,” but, hey, Little Shark River is one of those places where you could spend a month, and never exhaust all the anchorage possibilities!

      I wish we would have spent more time exploring the Everglades. We did anchor in Little Shark River, and enjoyed exploring in the dinghy.
      We went up the mouth of the river, turned right at the T, and anchored below the first Island. Very nice spot!
      Ken & Pat Goewey

      Click Here To View the Western Florida Cruisers’ Net Anchorage Directory Listing For the Little Shark River Southern Fork Anchorage

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    • Praise for City of Fort Myers Yacht Basin, Caloosahatchee River/Okeechobee Waterway

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      Located at Mile Marker 135 on the Okeechobee Waterway, 15 miles inland from the Gulf of Mexico, Fort Myers Yacht Basin is a well designed and protected marina. It is owned and operated by the City of Capt. Barry’s remarks are in response to needed recommendations for good live aboard marinas.

      Go to the Ft Myers City Yacht Basin. Great staff, great downtown, great facilities. NO PROBLEM with live aboard but there was a $75 per month live aboard fee. we lived aboard and cruised SW FL for 4 years. Fantastic.
      Bob Barry

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    • Platinum Point Yacht Club (at Burnt Store Marina – Charlotte Harbor)

      Platinum Point Yacht Club is located in the impressive Burnt Store Marina complex, which guards the eastern shores of Charlotte Harbor, well south of Punta Gorda. I have had the good fortune to speak at Platinum Point Yacht Club in the past, but I must say I did not know they featured their own dockage facilities.
      Platinum Point is not a member of the Florida Council of Yacht Clubs, but from my own experience and that reported by below by Captains Jim and Vaughn, this club is well worth a visit.

      Platinum Point Yacht Club is located at Burnt Store Marina on the east side of Charlotte Harbor. This is east of the ICW anchorage at Pelican Bay/Cayo Costa SP, south of Punta Gorda and north of Ft Myers/the Okeechobee waterway.
      They have a three docks at the marina. first night free, second and third night $1/ft. Call ahead for availability but they are mostly empty .
      The Burnt Store Marina also offers AGLCA Looper Discounts.
      If you are a member of a YC, you can get the PPYC deal!
      Jim and Vaughn

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    • Shallow Depths Encountered at Field Yacht Club (Sarasota, FL – Statute Mile 71)

      Be sure to read all the remarks in both messages below before drawing any conclusions about the Field Yacht Club in southern Sarasota. As you will see, there are many positive attributes reported, but depths are clearly a problem at this facility for some vessels.
      I have had the good fortune to make presentations at the Field Club on many occasions over the years, and I have always been very impressed with the clubhouse and the greeting I received. As far as the wet slip dockage is concerned though, looks like it’s time for a dredging project!

      Yesterday we went into the SFC at mid-tide. We have a 50′ Ocean Alexander with a 4′ draft. They were expecting us. In the channel approaching them, our depth finder was reading .2!! We continued very slowly into the marina
      to our assigned slip. As we backed into the slip, we were churning up mud. We waited 3 hours for high tide and left. The marina had never warned us.
      Mark & Allyn Callahan

      After reading the above note, which originally appeared on the “GL” (Great Loop) Mail List, we e-mailed Captains Mar and Allyn, and asked for clarification as to whether the “SFC” was indeed the Field Yacht Club in southern Sarasota. We received the following affirmative reply:

      Yes it is the Field Yacht Club in Sarasota. A beautiful Club but for us the approach was very thin and the slip we got would have been a problem at dead low, which was in the morning when we would have had to leave. Don’t want to take anything away from the Club and they were great let us wait for the tide to come up and then we left, no charges for Electric or the slip. Very accommodating.
      Mark Callahan

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    • Controversial Martin County (Stuart, Florida) Anchorage Restrictions Approved by the Florida Department of Fish and Wildlife (FWC)

      On Wednesday, December 5, 2012, the Florida Fish and Wildlife Commission approved, with several modifications (see below), the proposed anchorage regulations for Martin County and Stuart, Florida. This is one of the five sites previously approved to take part in the Florida Pilot Mooring Field Program. As any of you familiar with this long, drawn-out process already know, the approved sites are given the right to regulate anchorage in their waters, IF AND ONLY IF THE REGULATIONS ARE APPROVED BY THE FWC!
      It is not stretching the truth at all to report that this particular set of regulations is the most controversial of the five sites participating in the pilot program, with the possible exception of St. Augustine’s 30-day anchoring limit, which was ultimately shot down by the FWC. The Salty Southeast Cruisers’ Net has published several previous articles on the proposed Martin County regulations (see /?p=100456).
      Now, with some FORTUNATE modification inserted by the FWC, these regulations have been approved, and will almost certainly go into effect shortly. ALL CRUISERS WHO EVER PLAN ON ANCHORING IN THE STUART, JENSEN BEACH REGION WILL WANT TO READ THE TEXT BELOW, AND LEARN ALL THERE IS TO KNOW! (See, I was a poet, and you did not know it!).
      First, let’s hear from our “man on the scene in Stuart, Florida, maritime attorney Captain Ted Guy:

      Basically, the City of Stuart is banning anchoring within 150 ft of the existing mooring field and other “marine infrastructure” (docks, seawalls, etc.) throughout the city limits (that provision is probably reasonable) and will require anchored cruisers in the City Limits to demonstrate navigable mobility of their boats and pumpout receipts every ten days.
      In the Manatee Pocket, anchoring will only be allowed in the charted small anchoring triangles (see the third map I sent you in October with the draft ordinance). The ordinance does not provide the exemption for live-aboards provided by Florida Statutes, an obvious legal omission.
      W.E. “Ted” Guy, Jr.

      And, here is the official press release from the FWC:

      Meeting Wednesday in Apalachicola, the Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission (FWC) approved, with contingencies, the city of Stuart/Martin County’s proposed ordinance for the anchoring and mooring pilot program coordinated by the FWC.
      The ordinance is in response to the Florida statute allowing a specific number of local governments to adopt regulations on anchoring and mooring vessels in their jurisdiction. This pilot program provides an opportunity for the FWC and the Florida Legislature to evaluate the subject more fully.
      `The goal of the anchoring and mooring pilot program is to explore potential options for regulating the anchoring or mooring of non-live-aboard vessels outside the boundaries of public mooring fields,’ said Maj. Jack Daugherty, leader of the FWC’s Boating and Waterways Section. `The FWC’s role is to provide consultation and technical assistance on the issues.’
      Local governments for the five communities participating in the pilot program are responsible for soliciting public input and adopting local ordinances within their jurisdictions. These ordinances must be approved by the FWC and will continue to be evaluated by the FWC and the Legislature. FWC staff members have been attending the sites’ public-input meetings to provide information on the pilot program. Two meetings were held in Martin County on the topic.
      Rather than writing an ordinance that was countywide, city of Stuart/Martin County participants established four areas in the county in which the ordinance would be effective. They selected one in the Indian River, two in the St. Lucie River, and one in the area referred to as Manatee Pocket in Stuart.
      In the St. Lucie and Indian River locations, the ordinance prohibits anchoring and mooring within 300 feet of the mooring field and other maritime infrastructure. In the Manatee Pocket location, the prohibition applies to the whole area except within provided anchoring areas.
      `There is a ‘˜safe harbor’ exception in all areas for vessels anchored temporarily due to severe weather or mechanical issues,’ Daugherty said.
      For vessels that have been anchored in any of the areas for 10 consecutive days, the ordinance requires vessel operators to document that they can successfully navigate under their own power by visiting designated locations. After that first documentation of operability, they must also demonstrate compliance every six months.
      `This will ensure that boats can operate safely and will also deter abandoned or derelict vessels,’ Daugherty said. `This protects the marine environment and keeps waterways safe for all to use.’
      A final part of the ordinance is a requirement to demonstrate compliance with marine sanitation laws by providing proof that marine sanitation devices have been pumped out within the 10 previous days.
      Commissioners discussed the ordinance, asked questions and heard public comment, ultimately approving it with a few contingencies, including reducing the buffer distances in the St. Lucie River areas to 150 feet while still restricting anchoring between the Stuart mooring field and eastern shoreline. Commissioners also required the removal of the Indian River location until the associated mooring field is constructed.
      With this approval, the county can adopt the ordinance to make it effective. All ordinances adopted under the pilot program expire on July 1, 2014, unless re-enacted by the Legislature.
      The ordinances for St. Augustine, St. Petersburg, Sarasota and Monroe County have already been approved.
      For more information on the anchoring and mooring pilot program, visit MyFWC.com/Boating or call 850-488-5600.

      Thanks to Mr. Guy and all the others that commented it appears the approved regulations are much more reasonable than the original proposal. However, as usual, the law is poorly written. For example, if one arrives, then anchors for 10 days, haven’t you already demonstrated that you can navigate your vessel? How else would you get there? If you sail away for a week and then return for another 10 days do you have to once again demonstrate you can navigate by going to a designated location? Do these laws also apply to boats on moorings? If not, why not? Also, how can one provide proof of pumpout if you don’t pumpout’“using a composting or incinerating system, or a porta pottie? This just further adds confusion to the hodge-podge of anti-anchoring ordinances in Florida that most boaters will be completely unaware of.
      John Kettlewell

      We have a 75 gallon holding tank. If we pump it every ten days, to get our money’s worth we are going to have to invite many, many guests aboard to take a’¦
      Chris

      My inclination is to plan on sailing through those areas, i.e. stop before & after; there are enough challenges without jumping through hoops and being hasselled. Current state law allows recovery of costs for ‘˜derelict’ vessels which go down or threaten safety of others from the registered owners. my 2c.
      David Hendry

      How will boats with composting heads comply with the proof of pump out requirement?
      Dick Mills

      Some composting toilets are classified as `portable’ just like a porta potty. Because they don’t have holding tanks, they are exempt from such regulations. Believe it or not, the USCG prefers portable systems if it is possible and reasonable to use. Portable systems are much more difficult to discharge illegally because to discharge them you have to be conspicuous. You can’t simply go below and open a valve out of sight. Additionally, with a portable composting toilet, there is no urgency to empty the collection container and therefore no need to break the law.
      Sandy Graves

      Hard to demonstrate pump-out when the Martin County pump-out boat doesn’t show up.
      H Mason

      Being the only person aboard my boat with a 50 gal. holding tank, I only need a pump out twice a month, at the most. I last pumped out at Stuart Loggerhead Marina when I fueled and the receipt had no mention of a pump out. I keep a pump out logbook. If a logbook is sufficient for the FAA , why not for Martin County?
      Don Neville

      We are planning a cruise south from the Chesapeake Bay through Florida this winter (2013). How can we find out where we can or cannot anchor in the Boater Friendly State of Florida. Thanks
      Raymond W. Smith, Fire Dog

      I guess Stuart will just have to served notice of intent to suit for violation of civil rights afet the first ticket is issued to a composting boat, interesting politicians in that area, dumb would be a compliment.
      Dennis McMurtry

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    • Good Words About the Englewood Anchorage (Western Florida ICW Statute Mile 44.5)

      The anchorage Captains Jim and Patrice are referring to below, lies east of the Western Florida ICW, north of marker #25. Don’t confuse this anchor down spot with the “Englewood Beach Anchorage” while is located west of the ICW’s track.
      Note that this posting was copied from the American Great Loop Cruisers’ Association (AGLCA) forum, an organization that the SSECN continues to enthusiastically recommend!

      We are traveling the Great Loop Via “Ariverderci” Anchored out at Englewood, FL for the last two evenings. A great place to anchor and dingy into town. We anchored out for 2 nights. All went well.
      Jim & Patrice Rossman

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    • Good Words About the Downtown Fort Myers Waterfront (Caloosahatchee River/Okeechobee Waterway)

      Located at Mile Marker 135 on the Okeechobee Waterway, 15 miles inland from the Gulf of Mexico, Fort Myers Yacht Basin is a well designed and protected marina. It is owned and operated by the City of 239 461-0775 Legacy Harbour Marina entrance is located on the Okeechobee Waterway East of Marker #49 on the Caloosahatchee River. The Marina is situated two blocks from historic downtown Fort Myers and three blocks from the historic Edison-Ford Winter Estates. The Marina's 131-Slips range in size from 40 feet to 80 feet and can accommodate Transient Boats of 100 feet plus. The large Fairways make our slips easily accessible. Our slips are surrounded by one of the largest 'floating breakwaters' on the Gulf of Mexico. The floating docks are state-of-the-art. Legacy Harbour Marina is a full-featured facility with all the modern conveniences of home including pump-out station, heated pool, fitness center, full electric metered at the slip, cable TV, laundry, air-conditioned showers and wireless Internet connections available. The Boaters' Lounge is available for relaxing after a cruise or for private parties. The view from the lounge is spectacular! Our grounds are beautifully manicured and provide great strolling along the river with benches, Chickee Hut, and excellent access to all of historic Fort Myers. Please take a few moments to browse our website and see for yourself what our beautiful boating facility can offer you the next time you are cruising in Southwest Florida. We have always found our visits to the downtown Fort Myers area to be absolutely delightful. With two quality marinas (BOTH Legacy Harbour Marina and City of Fort Myers Yacht Basin are SALTY SOUTHEAST CRUISERS’ NET SPONSORS!), a host of nearby dining attractions and a beautifully landscaped waterfront, what’s not to like!

      We were pleasantly surprised to see Fort Myers downtown waterfront area redeveloped into a first class entertainment destination. We ate
      dinner at Ford’s Garage, a restaurant with a 1920,s service station atmosphere from the Model ‘A’ up on a rack ready for an oil change to a rag rolled into a hose clamp as a napkin ring. Fort Myers is about 15 miles into the Okeechobee Waterway (a short side trip for loopers heading south to the keys.) There are two first class marinas. I prefer the Municipal Yacht Basin for short term and Legacy Harbor for longer stays.
      Alan Lloyd
      Author, Great Loop Navigation Notes
      http://www.NavigationNotes.com

      Click Here To View the Western Florida Cruisers’ Net Marina Directory Listing For Legacy Harbour Marina

      Click Here To View the Western Florida Cruisers’ Net Marina Directory Listing For City of Fort Myers Yacht Basin

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    • Cruising the Western Florida Coastline With a 6-foot Draft

      The discussion below originally appeared on the T&T (Trawlers and Trawlering) mail list, which, by the way, is a nautical list WELL WORTH joining! We think there is sooooo much good info here about cruising the western coastline of the Sunshine State in a deeper draft vessel, we have reproduced the string here!

      With all of the available information out there, I would have thought that this question would be easy to answer on my own… but I really haven’t been able to figure this out.
      Our Selene draws six and is LOA 62. We are considering the possibility of a house purchase in the St. Pete to Naples area. Looks like a great area. So, we are planning a cruise up there from here in Key West for a week or so to check it out. Here’s the question: Where is it deep enough for our boat?
      I haven’t been able to ID any marinas that offer sufficiently deep entrances and reasonably easy/deep navigation routes from here in KW. This is enough of an issue for our little cruise; but, it also raises the issue of whether it is reasonable to own a boat like ours on the West Coast vs. the East Coast of FL. I know there are many fans of this area of the world on the list. Can any of you offer any encouragement on this point? Suggested routes/marinas?
      Thanks.
      Mike
      Mike Curreri
      M/V Blue Grotto

      Mike
      You might want to check out Punta Gorda. It is easily accessed through Boca Grande Pass and Charlotte Harbor. Fisherman’s Village Marina indicates a 7.5 ft approach at MLW and at least that at some of the docks. See www.fishville.com Winter low tides and strong North winds can make this less.
      Punta Gorda has a large collection of canals, a good portion are considered “sailboat” water which should accommodate your boat, but like all of the other deeper draft vessels, you likely would need to play the tides. A lot of us here enjoy having our boats in our back yards.
      Good Luck
      Chris

      Personal opinion, 6 feet draft is perfectly fine for FL West Coast. I have traversed from Ft Myers to Anclote with my boat, 5’3″ draft and have never bumped while inside the ICW channel. I have also done a delivery of an Irwin 65 with 6′ draft from St Pete to Miami (via Key West) with no draft issues. Many if not most marinas also can accomodate your draft. To name a few St Pete muni, Harborside, Gulfport (6’6″ depth) Twin Dolphin, Regatta Point, Rivera Dunes, Clearwater muni, Tierra Verde.
      One thing you will have to watch out for is sand bars stretching out to sea, sometimes for over a mile, from each and every pass. Come on up, the water is fine…
      Joel Wilkins
      m/s Miss Magoo
      Columbia 45

      Mike,
      Winter in Florida is when tides tend to be lower and water shallower. Tides on the gulf coast of western Florida are diurnal; one high tide per day, mostly in the mid-to-late afternoon. The pattern does vary slightly with new and full moon cycles. Western Florida is a shelf; not deep water. Most of south and west of Florida is “OK” – but not flush – for 6ft draft. There are some exceptions.
      When in Naples, research carefully the old ICW between Naples and Marco, through Goodland. The last time I mentioned that stretch – from Doctor’s Pass to Rookery Bay – I was told it I was nuts and it was fine. But, we’ve grounded in there with 4ft draft, so caveat emptor.
      You will not be able to do Coon Key Pass without significant anxiety; all of the north of Gullivan Bay entering Coon Key Pass is charted at 5 ft.. Definitely, do that at high high tide.
      The Baron River to Everglades City is doable. Depths on the last mile approach into Everglades City will get to less than 6′, but if you go in and out at high tide, you’ll have no problems. Don’t do early day departures from EC. No problem cruising most of the 10,000 Islands.
      You will not be able to do the “Yacht Channel” through Florida Bay without significant anxiety, if at all. There is almost no tide in Florida Bay; less than 6 inches. Not enough to help. Prolonged winds can affect water levels a lot in Florida Bay. Stay outside around the bottom; run the Hawk Channel. Come it to overnight at Channel 5, or at the 7-Mile bridge. From Marathon, use the 7-Mile Bridge to come north.
      You will be able to enjoy Ft. Myers beach, Ft. Myers and the Caloosahatchee. In the fall, and most springs, you’ll be able to cross Lake O between Ft. Myers and Stuart. Charlotte Harbor is fine. The ICW from Sanibel to Tampa to Tarpon is fine. Research the armpit (Great Bend) very carefully, especially in winter. The Panhandle is fine except for Government Cut at Apalachicola. There, play the tides.
      The West Coast is much, much better cruising than the East Coast. On the east coast, you have miles and miles of very wide river and very narrow channel. You can’t see much, and it’s boring. Southeast Florida is the concrete ditch. From Biscayne Bay around to Tampa/Tarpon, it’s a different world; a cruisers paradise!
      Hope this is useful.
      Jim
      Peg and Jim Healy aboard Sanctuary

      I agree with almost everything that Jim Healy says about cruising the left coast of Florida. We lived in Clearwater for over 50 years and it was a beautiful place to grow up and a great boating venue. However, Jim is mistaken about only one high tide per day. Take a look atbthemtide tables and you will see two highs and two lows almost every day.
      Regards,
      Randy Pickelmann
      Morning Star lying Sunset Bay Marina, Stuart, Fl

      We live in Naples and keep our boat at the Naples City Dock. Our boat draws almost 6ft. We have no issues at the dock or the associated moorings. We also go into Big Marco Pass, which I wouldn’t do at a real low tide. When going into Big Marco, we typically turn north and enjoy the anchorage listed on this site in Johnson Bay.
      I wouldn’t take the channel from Marco to Naples, you have to go outside, which is almost always a pleasurable sail. Coming into Naples (Gordon River) stay on the south side. I usually come in between the first and second red markers.
      From Key West or from Marathon, it is a pretty easy run to Marco or Naples. I would recommend going from Key West to Marathon, then from Marathon north to Cape Sable. This time of year, the winds are typically North to East, so you will be in the lee of Florida at that point and it is a fairly easy sail from there.
      George
      s/v John Galt T37

      Claiborne:

      You are quite right about the value of this T&T Listserve. It is a fantastic resource.
      Regarding this question, I also received many responses to this inquiry directly. Ultimately, the first trip will be:
      Key West to Punta Gorda, staying at Fisherman’s Village Yacht Basin.
      Punta Gorda to Fort Myers, staying at Legacy Harbour Marina.
      Fort Myers to Palmetto, staying at Riviera Dunes Marina Resort.
      Palmetto to St. Petersburg, staying at St. Petersburg Municipal Marina.
      St. Pete to Key West.
      Mike Curreri

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    • Report from Caledesi Island State Park Marina, north of Dunedin, FL

      Caladesi Island Marina – Click for Chartview

      As I recall, the entrance channel leading to Caladesi Island State Park Marina (from Hurricane Pass) can be a bit of a challenge for first timers, but otherwise, this is a pretty good facility for those who just want to get away from the maddening crowd. It lies just north of the Dunedin and the Honeymoon Island Bridge

      Caladesi is located immediately north of Clearwater Beach. The beach is still great for shellers, especially near the northern end. Dockage is $1/ft at a slip, $2/ft on a t-dock; 30 amp elec. and water included. 24/7 bathrooms on shore, and a snack bar. Florida senior citizens (65+) pay half. Limit is 14 days, but you can contact them and offer to be a volunteer: free dockage in exchange for 20 hr/wk easy labor. For example we met someone who’s job was to pick up any trash (rare) on the beach. She would carry two bags; one for trash, one for shells.
      There are signs that say “watch out for rattlesnakes” but we haven’t seen any. We have seen lots of armadillos, some raccoons, numerous types of birds, gopher tortoises, and very few people.
      The channel is shallow in places, but marked and doable for our 4’6″ draft. A great place to visit. Chosen twice by “Dr. Beach” as the best beach in the country.
      Wade Ehlen
      MT 36 Shady Lady
      New Bern NC

      Wade is spot on about Caladesi Island. It was one of our favorite weekend spots since it was so close to home yet so far away. The beach is absolutely beautiful.
      But Wade, the rattlesnakes are there, although they tend to be in the wooded areas. There used to be a skin mounted on the wall in the rangers office that must be 6′ long. We have seen them that big in the winter, warming themselves in
      a sunny spot on the nature trails.
      Regards,
      Randy Pickelmann
      Morning Star

      When we were in Caladesi last year we caught a line in the prop while in the marina so my husband hopped over to free it. About five minutes after he was back on board a rattlesnake swam by on its way over to the mangroves. We were glad we hadn’t seen it before freeing the line because we might have left the line in the prop rather than risk swimming with the snake. The next day, we also watched as a ranger chased one off the park’s work boat. Still, if you leave them alone, they’ll leave you alone. And Caladesi is so beautiful its worth the stop, even with the snakes!
      Paige Caldwell

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    • Pelican Bay Anchorages (hard by Cayo Costa Island/State Park), Western Florida ICW Statute Mile 25

      Like Captains Mary and Jerry, we just love anchoring in Pelican Bay,and then dinghying ashore to unspoiled Cayo Costa. Thanks to its being a Florida state park, this barrier island remains almost entirely in its natural state. Hiking across to the ocean side, particularly at sunset, is one of the greatest experiences the western coastline of the Sunshine State has to offer.Unfortunately, the rub is that there is an entrance bar, which, at low tide, carries only about 4 1/2 feet of water. Some local cruisers have told me they have found a deeper route, which will hold 5 feet at MLW.And, in this regard, there is a GREAT You-Tube video giving SOLID ADVICE about entering Pelican Bay, available at:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IA9VUGwSXIEYou might also want to check out a string of earlier messages here on the Cruisers’ Net concerning how best to enter this series of anchorages:/?p=914Anyway, check out the message below to read one more glowing opinion about the wonderful qualities of anchoring on Pelican Bay!Pelican Bay at Cayo Costa is the best anchorage on the west side of Florida – hands down. We have been in there on a holiday weekend when there were 70 boats and everyone was on a single anchor with plenty of swing room. Easy dinghy ride to Cabbage Key for a ‘cheeseburger in paradise’.Marty & Jerry RichardsonWe are there now and can see why the west coast is Jim’s favorite. We anchored last night at the best anchorage on the West Coast. Even [cruisers] adverse to anchoring out should give Cayo Costa a try. There is more than ample room to swing on one hook. There were 18 boats anchored last night enjoying a full moon and a romantic sunrise. Cayo Costa Island is a state park. We dinghied to the dock and walked 3/4 mile across the desert island to the gulf side beach. (There is a regular tram service and bikes for rent, but we preferred to walk ). We had the whole beach to ourselves! Access Fee is $2.00pp. Don’t pass this anchorage! Oh, by the way, there is also a floating dock where you may tie up overnight for $20.Alan LloydAuthor, Great Loop Navigation Noteshttp://www.NavigationNotes.com Eyeball method into PBay is a line from R74 to the entrance sign leaving sign to Starboard; then along the sand spit. Start aiming for the park dock once you are about halfway down the spit.Or if you must-plug these into your GPS to route yourself into PBay.A: 26 41.940N 82 14.208WB: 26 41.745N 82 14.525WC: 26 41.600N 82 14,600WD: 26 41.100N 82 14.600WE: 26 40.900N 82.14 (40°54N / 082°8.4W).400WF: 26 40.950N 82 14.200WG: 26 41.100N 82 14.250There is small power boat access out the south with local knowledge (uses part of the Punta Blanca channel) ‘“ Watch the ferry. Above will get you in (for 5’ or less) on all but an extreme winter low. There are a couple of bars so don’t freak if you think you’re in but start losing depth again. If you are coming from the south you can turn onto the A-B leg close to B. Start cheating about G71 and aim for a point to the right of B. If the depths get scary jog right until you are comfortable. Turn onto the track when you get to it. Once inside the chart is petty good at identifying the deeper areas. Standard rules apply- if there are a lot of boats in the anchorage and no one is anchored in what looks like a choice spot there is probably a shallow reason. You want to be surprisingly close to the beach from B to C. There is a nice hole around ‘˜E’ and we usually anchor there in about 8-9′. E-F can be a problematic stretch so exercise care. You may stir more mud than you want.KimWe’ve anchored here on 4 occasions and each time we enter and exit from the north Pelican Pass inlet. We stay as close to the north beach as possible as this is where the deepest water is at the entrance channel. Once inside Cayo Costa you’ll find two pools with 8 to 9 foot depths with the balance being between 5 to 6 feet or so. There are some shallow areas but it is all manageable.Jim FavorsKismetOn Pelican Bay entrance. R 74 is now a nun, not a daymark.Bill DixonClick Here To View the Western Florida Cruisers’ Net Anchorage Directory Listing For Pelican Bay Outer AnchorageClick Here To View the Western Florida Cruisers’ Net Marina Directory Listing For Pelican Bay Park Service Dock AnchorageClick Here To View the Western Florida Cruisers’ Net Marina Directory Listing For Pelican Bay – Punta Blanca Island AnchorageClick Here To Open A Chart View Window, Zoomed To the Location of Pelican Bay

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