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    • Moored Vessels in Seaplane Basin to be Evicted, Hillsborough Bay/Tampa Bay


      Seaplane Basin - Click for Chartview

      The protected harbor known as Seaplane Basin lies just south of the city of Tampa, on the northern part of Hillsborough Bay. The issue of poorly managed moored vessels there has been festering for years. Some of the boats are in good shape, others in poor condition, and a few completely abandoned. Some of the moored vessels are blocking the seaplane corridor of the Hillsborough County Aviation Authority. The City of Tampa plans a new mooring field adjacent to the corridor.
      Seaplane Harbor is also home to the Davis Island Yacht club.

      For the full story see: http://www.news-press.com/viewart/20131206/NEWS01/312060023/State-News–Tampa-evicting-boats-in-seaplane-basin?source=nletter-news

      I am trying to muster sympathy for the poor yachtsman [in linked story] who feels so hard done by in being evicted from his squatter site in a seaplane landing area, but seriously’¦ If he can’t park a house trailer beside the north-south runway at TPA, and call it home, it would seem likewise inappropriate for him to expect to be allowed to obstruct a seaplane base. Time to think a new thought, Red!
      Mimi

      Click Here To Open A Chart View Window, Zoomed To the Location of Seaplane Basin

      Click Here To View the Western Florida Cruisers’ Net Marina Directory Listing For Davis Island Yacht Club

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    • Good Depths found in Ponce de Leon Inlet, near AICW Statute Miles 843 and 839

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      Dredging was completed on the Ponce de Leon Inlet Channel in June of this year and, from Captain Ted’s report, the channel appears to be holding, but shoaling is always an issue here. Ponce Inlet (as it is known to all the locals) intersects the Waterway at Statute Mile 839.5, with a second southerly intersection near St. M. 843.

      Passed thru the Ponce de Leon Cut today. Stayed mid channel and saw least depths in the mid teens 1 hour before hi tide.
      Ted

      Click Here To Open A Chart View Window, Zoomed To the Location of Ponce Inlet

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    • A Frank Discussion of the Pros and Cons of Florida’s New Mooring Fields

      Now, here we have a LIVELY discussion about the pros and cons (in this case, mostly “cons”) of mooring fields in Florida. It is only fair to note that other strings of messages here on the SSECN, and in other forums, have expressed good opinions of the Florida mooring fields.
      Clearly, this is an issue that arouses passions within the cruising community, no matter on which side of the issue you fall.
      WE ENCOURAGE SSECN READERS TO EXPRESS THEIR POINT OF VIEW ON THIS TIMELY TOPIC. Please follow the “Click Here to Comment on This Posting/Marina/Anchorage/Bridge” link below, or send e-mail to EditorialDirector@CruisersNet.net.
      Let the discussion begin!

      I would like to start a conversation and try to force some changes. I have two problems I have noticed with Florida mooring fields. One is they seem to be placing the boundary marks for the field in a much larger area than they need to, making good anchoring space unusable. The two I have noticed this at are St Augustine and Titusville. The other issue is some are charging the same rate for a mooring as they are for just dinghy dockage. Examples being Marathon and Vero Beach. I don’t think we should have to pay the same fee for less services. If you are anchored that is one more mooring open for them to rent therefore the price should reflect that. They have a lot of money invested in those mooring and the price should be less if you are not using one. They are either undercharging mooring customers or overcharging anchored customers. I hope I am not just ranting and others agree with me. Any comments would be good, and I would like if anyone has any ideas of how to change this. With Florida’s past issues with anchoring I hope this is not a way for them restrict our anchoring. This net seems to get things out there and get people motivated. You do A great service to the cruising community and I thank you.
      Mike ODonnell SV Bay Tripper

      For both Marathon & Vero Beach, anchoring is either limited or not permitted. What those prices tell me is they REALLY want you to take a mooring. If you don’t like it, don’t stop there.
      Tom

      Thanks for the comment. I have gone by and not stopped in the past because of the mooring field, until I found there is still lots of good anchoring room. Vero Beach tried to outlaw anchoring but the court took that down. The mooring field is regularly full and you need to raft three boats together which doesn’t work for me with two young kids. I don’t think anyone wants to pay for a mooring and have a baby in the boat next to them wake them 5 times during the night. I anchored in vero for at least two weeks last year while provisioning for the winter. The marina told me we were not welcome there unless we rent a mooring whether we used the mooring or not. But there are a few other places to tye a dingy in the area so its still a good stop. I was willing to pay them $10 per day for just dingy dockage and no mooring, but they would not do anything less than the full rate. So they got no money from me instead. They could have made a few hundred dollars more and rented the mooring I was not using. There loss not mine.
      Mike

      I’ll just plan my future trips in Florida so that I don’t have to stop at any place with one of these crappy mooring fields.
      Until all the places in Florida who don’t want tourist money are gone, it’s easy to just avoid these places. Every decision in Florida government (I used to live there) is made with a calculator. We just need to make sure the places who make these decisions regret it when they add the numbers up in a few years.
      R. Holiman

      Another complaint I have is the requirement in the Key West mooring field to put one months deposit down. I only had a debit card so they took 600 and change to move in and once I left it took over 2 weeks for the money to be returned. The facilities were decent enough though.
      Dave C

      I have no problem paying the mooring fee for Vero, Fernandina and St. Augustine, but it would really help if these areas were also designated as no wake zones covering the entire limits of the mooring field and not just the marina. Sitting on a mooring in St. Augustine only to be waked by passing powerboats including those belonging to Homeland Security really grates me.
      Bob

      To me it’s simple. Anchoring is a cruising skill that I like to use and perfect, just like many others. It is an enjoyable part of cruising that is an important part of the experience to me. So, I go where I can anchor, and I don’t go where I am forced to take a mooring or else the moorings and dockage so restrict the anchoring area as to make it undesirable or unsafe. My money is spent where I can anchor out. Taking away my ability to anchor is like telling me I am not allowed to raise sails on my sailboat because the powers that be want me to purchase diesel fuel. Plus, money I am forced to spend on a mooring is also money that is not available to be spent by me in local restaurants and shops, and it shortens my stay in a town. In most cases, mooring fields are all about the money, despite the insane justifications made for them with regard to derelict boats, etc. I have personally managed to anchor just outside of the vast Marathon mooring field during the summer season when the moorings were doing the city no good as they were empty growing barnacles. They were simply blocking the harbor anchorage area, meaning those of us who want to anchor were only staying for a short time and then heading elsewhere.
      John Kettlewell

      By the way, as a follow up to my comments above, it should be noted that most of these mooring fields end up being big money losers for the communities that put them in. Most of the Florida fields are paid for by the taxpayers, and then the collected fees almost never cover expenses so the taxpayers end up paying again. Even the giant field at Marathon has only been kept afloat through the injection of hundreds of thousands of dollars from local taxpayers. Maintenance is therefore often neglected or postponed, and I know of several cases of moorings being declared unsafe in Florida. However, there is no standard of inspection required’“you are depending for the safety of your boat on the skill, vigilance, and budget of municipal employees, often hired at low wages. I have personally observed unsafe practices being utilized in the construction of some mooring components in a major field’“I wouldn’t trust my boat to such practices.
      John Kettlewell

      Your right about them not making enough money on the moorings. Marathon told me they raised the dinghy dock fee because they have been undercharging the mooring customers and need to make up for it. Does that make any sense? They don’t want to raise the mooring rate because when they installed the field they told people it would be kept affordable. Again, charging the same price for less services would not be tolerated in any other business.
      Mike

      Mooring fields create another option for cruisers to access marina facilities and communities at a lower price than transient slip fee rates. Some even provide pump out service on the mooring. There are less worries about adequate spacing and anchors dragging. In rough weather, I prefer a mooring ball to being in an anchorage. When I am ready to go, it is nice to drop lines and take off. I agree municipal marinas should, for a fee, provide access to their facilities even if you choose to anchor’¦and many do. I have paid fees in Marathon while waiting for a mooring to open. I have paid fees in Ft. Lauderdale to use the dinghy dock and marina facilities while anchoring in Lake Sylvia. The charge was almost as much as the mooring field, but we did have access to the marina dinghy dock, showers, laundry, lounge, etc. Members of the cruising community should be encouraging communities to invest in attracting cruisers. Providing convenient dinghy access to restaurants and businesses is a must to attract cruisers. Providing marinas and mooring field options with access to marina facilities and community services in my opinion should be encouraged, not complained about.
      Kevin Koehl

      In regard to what Kevin Koehl wrote about providing affordable access, I agree to a point. However, as a serious cruiser, I already have to purchase, install, and maintain thousands of dollars worth of anchoring gear. I didn’t purchase all that gear to just drag it around with me on my boat’“I would rather utilize this thousands of dollars worth of equipment which I know and trust, and costs me nothing additional per day. I have anchored in everything up to hurricanes, so I feel safe and secure when on my own gear. Paying a fee to use gear that I have no knowledge of, have not seen installed, and have not maintained is not a seamanlike way to manage my boat.
      John Kettlewell

      Moorings are a great way to prevent damage to coral reefs, example being the virgin islands. I have used the marathon moorings, and find the price reasonable, the services good, and you do not have to worry about the idiot that does not know how to anchor. Anchoring etiquette has disappeared from the seas. I always ask the vessels that i will be close to how much rode and what type they have out before i anchor. But all that said, i would prefer to sit on the hook in a nice anchorage then be in a slip.
      Nick Chavasse. sv war depart.

      The Ft. Myers Beach mooring field was a pleasant stay with decent facilities provided. The dinghy dock is just a couple blocks from downtown attractions. A bargain for $13/night compared to $2.50/ft transient slips. It’s the way to go to pack many boats into a small area.
      Archie Faulkner

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    • Less Than 5 Feet (MLW) of Water Found on the AICW/Ashepoo Coosaw Cutoff Problem Stretch (St. M. 517) –

      Our good friends, and SSECN strategic partners, Captains Mark and Diana Doyle, founders and owners of “On The Water ChartGuides” (http://www.onthewaterchartguides.com/), give us an updated, graphic report below, relaying what they discovered as they navigated through the AICW – Ashepoo Coosaw Cutoff Problem Stretch on 11/16/13! Note that the Doyle’s soundings were taken near mid tide, so to calculate MLW depths, you must subtract 5.5 feet from their soundings depicted below. Applying this correction, Diana and Mark noted “multiple soundings of LESS THAN 5 FEET IN THE AICE CHANNEL NEAR MARKERS #184 AND #185. CLEARLY all cruisers piloting vessels larger than row boats should transit this AICW Problem Stretch at mid to high tide ONLY!
      Incidentally, Diana and Mark have recently published a new edition of their immensely popular “ICW CruiseGuide.” Click on the book graphic to the above left for more details, and to place an order!

      Hi Claiborne,
      For those transiting South Carolina, Ashepoo Coosaw Cutoff continues to be a problem area and carries LESS THAN 5 FEET MLLW.
      I’ve attached a printable high-resolution file of our November 16th survey report and depth-annotated track.
      Hopefully, SSECN readers cruising this area will find the report useful.
      Best,
      Captains Mark & Diana Doyle
      m/v Semi-Local
      www.OnTheWaterChartGuides.com

      Click Here To View the Cruisers’ Net’s “AICW Problem Stretches” Listing For the AICW/Ashepoo Coosaw Cutoff Problem Stretch

      Click Here To Open A Chart View Window, Zoomed To This AICW Problem Stretch

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    • Report on Punta Blanco Inner Anchorage, Western Florida ICW Statute Mile 23

      Punta Blanco Anchorages - Click for Chartview

      Punta Blanco inner anchorage will be found on the charted bubble of deep water virtually surrounded by Punta Blanco.

      If you are looking for a secluded anchorage to hide out from a strong wind, this is the spot! Getting in with a chartplotter isn’t nearly as daunting as it used to be without one- just watch the depth sounder. There is a small sand `beach’ where you can land with the dinghy. We didn’t, but a local boat pulled right up on the sand and the folks went exploring. A long dinghy ride from the state park though.
      Jean Thomason

      We can attest from a dinghy visit and speaking with those anchored there, that is a nice spot, with a few caveats. If a large boat gets there first and takes up the middle of the deep water, it is tough for another larger boat to fit.
      Second, as the description states, it is VERY easy to wind up aground, as we did. It is not always possible to read the water depth visually.
      Duane Ising

      Click Here To View the Western Florida Cruisers’ Net Anchorage Directory Listing For Punta Blanco Inner Anchorage

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    • Good Words for Twin Dolphin Marina, off Tampa Bay on the Manatee River

      Twin Dolphin Marina, 1000 1st Ave. West, Bradenton, Florida 34205-7852, 941.747.8300 - fax 941.745.2831, e-mail: harbormaster@twindolphinmarina.com

      Twin Dolphin Marina - Click for Chartview

      Twin Dolphin Marina, A SALTY SOUTHEAST CRUISERS’ NET SPONSOR, sits perched on the southern shores of Manatee River, just short of the Highway 41 Business bridge.

      We come to Bradenton every year and always stay for a few days at Twin Dolphin Marina. Everything is top-notch and the staff are friendly and helpful. The only difference for us is that this year we extended our stay to a week!
      Jean Thomason

      I echo Jean’s comments. Our YC visits Twin Dolphins each year as part of our cruise schedule. A great destination, a great facility with excellent amenities, and a great staff.
      Whit Sibley

      Click Here To View the Western Florida Cruisers’ Net Marina Directory Listing For Twin Dolphin Marina

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    • More Good Words for Punta Gorda Anchorage, Punta Gorda, FL, Charlotte Harbor, Gulf Coast

      Punta Gorda Waterfront - Click for Chartview

      Punta Gorda, Florida - a GREAT cruising destinationIn addition to recent news of a fully operational pumpout boat, see /?p=119532, Capt.Hyde adds these perks to anchoring in Punta Gorda, A SALTY SOUTHEAST CRUISERS’ NET SPONSOR! on Western Florida’s Charlotte Harbor/Peace River.

      To add to the amenities of anchoring off the Punta Gorda waterfront, new floating dinghy docks are now available in the recently dredged `lagoon’ behind the Punta Gorda Boat Club, just north of Fisherman’s Village.
      Noel Hyde

      Click Here To View the Western Florida Cruisers’ Net Anchorage Directory Listing For Punta Gorda Waterfront Anchorage

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    • Good Words for Dismal Swamp Canal Welcome Center, AICW Alternate Route

      Set in beautiful Camden Count, NC, the Dismal Swamp Canal Welcome Center provides free dockage for cruisers' on the Dismal Swamp AICW Alternate Route

      Dismal Swamp Welcome Center - Click for Chartview

      The Dismal Swamp Canal Welcome Center, A SALTY SOUTHEAST CRUISERS’ NET SPONSOR!, is located on the east shore of the Canal at Statute Mile 28. For the Center’s winter hours, see /?p=128131

      I have now been retired 3 years, after 23 years as Director of the Dismal Swamp Welcome Center. I want to thank each and everyone who choose to travel the Dismal Swamp Canal. I realize the dockage is small but most the time it will meet your needs. It is the only place where you can witness nature at its best and learn of its history. Bike rides are available, clean restrooms and grounds. Try it once and I promise you will return’¦’¦..’Happy Cruising’
      Penny Leary-Smith

      The Welcome Center has provided so much needed respite over the years while cruising. The staff certainly are always very informative, and encouraging no matter what time of the day we have visited. Its great to have ‘˜the Dismal Swamp’ available to us; such a blessful experience ‘“ its like riding down a country lane viewing nature in its natural sitting. For me its a ‘˜slice’ of America, kinda like Yellowstone (a piece of history that I wish everyone could experience). My husband as well as fellow cruisers we know, are praying that tax dollars don’t ever allow it to go away. We encourage everyone to try it ‘“ along with a stop by to talk with Robert Peak & say `Hello’ to his pal, `U-Turn’; since he’s an extremely sweet pet, you might wish to have a doggie treat ready.
      Ginger Thompson

      Penny,
      Thank you for all you have done. This applies to all your staff as well. It has always been one of our favorite stops.
      Jim and Sandy Davis
      S/V Isa Lei

      Click Here To View the North Carolina Cruisers’ Net Marina Directory Listing For the Dismal Swamp Canal Welcome Center

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    • The “Worst” AICW Problem Stretch – Little Mud River, Georgia (Statute Mile 655) – Captains Diana and Mark Report


      Our good friends, and SSECN strategic partners, Captains Mark and Diana Doyle, founders and owners of “On The Water ChartGuides” (http://www.onthewaterchartguides.com/), give us an updated, graphic report below, relaying what they discovered as they navigated through the AICW – Little Mud River Problem Stretch on 11/20/13! Note that the Doyle’s soundings were taken near mid-tide, so to calculate MLW depths, you must subtract 4.8 feet from their figures. Applying this correction, Diana and Mark noted multiple MLW corrected 4-foot soundings along this perennial AICW Problem stretch. And, as Mark and Diana note, there are almost certainly even shallower spots.
      Our cruising duo are also quite right in noting that, “the reigning champion of this year’s ICW Trouble Spots is Georgia’s Little Mud River.” I might also add that very dubious distinction has been true of Little Mud River for many years now. If and until this AICW Problem Stretch is fully dredged, I would be hesitant to navigate anything bigger than a canoe through this portion of the Waterway at low tide!

      Hi Claiborne,
      As I’m sure you’ll agree, the reigning champion of this year’s ICW Trouble Spots is Georgia’s Little Mud River.
      With depths as low as 4 FEET MLLW, Diana and I wanted SSECN readers to have this printable graphic of our November 20th survey report and depth-annotated track:
      Best wishes on this Thanksgiving holiday,
      Captains Mark & Diana Doyle
      m/v Semi-Local
      http://www.OnTheWaterChartGuides.com

      Click Here To View the Cruisers’ Net’s “AICW Problem Stretches” Listing For Little Mud River

      Click Here To Open A Chart View Window, Zoomed To This AICW Problem Stretch

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