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Bahamas Chatter: Import duties on alcoholic beverages? Import duties on alcoholic beverages? Posted: 19 Feb 2016 02:49 PM PST Hello, We are trying to find out what the rules are for having liquor aboard before we enter the Bahamas. We have a cruising guide (by Wilson) that lists pretty restrictive amounts. We have also seen posts that suggest stocking up before leaving the States due to high prices.
We tried searching the archives here and on AGLCA. If someone would please direct us to the info or fill us in, we’d sure appreciate it.
Thank you, Kellirae and Bill aboard Ocean Dancer 48′ Ocean M/Y Currently in Key West
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Stephanie DiBelardino- February 26, 2016 - 4:18 pm
Technically, there are restrictions on the amounts you allowed to bring in. If you are arriving on a 26′ fishing boat and have 14 cases of beer aboard, you have a problem. But if you are arriving on a sizeable boat, we have found that the customs agents aren’t going to delve into your less accessible lockers. If you have an obvious bar, they may look at it, but we have never had a problem clearing at West End — every year since 2002.
Skipper Pearsall’s report is the opposite of a 2015 report, see /146935, but facilities and prices at any location can change, see /155306. Mangrove Marina is one of only a very few facilities offering transient dockage on the Florida Keys Inside Route between a point south of Jewfish Creek, and Snake Creek. To access Mangrove Marina, depart the Inside Route just northeast of the Tavernier Creek intersection, between markers #64A and #65. Note that Mangrove Marina also features a full service repair yard!
We’ve been cruising to Mangrove Marina for many years; the rates WERE reasonable, dockmates were (and still are) very friendly, and the location is excellent. NOW, we find rates have gone up after we made reservations, electric is no longer included in the dock rate (they now charge $85/month for 30 amp electric), a swimming pool is only partly completed and is best for mosquito farmers, the “food truck” hasn’t been opened at all since we’ve been here, income seems to be not used at all for maintenance and improvements, parking space has been reduced, and the bathroom/showers haven’t been cleaned in the past few days. Adelle Pearsall
Matanzas Pass is the waterway east of Estero Island that connects San Carlos Bay with Estero Bay to the south and is notorious for shoaling, see /97467. Fort Myers Beach, A SALTY SOUTHEAST CRUISERS’ NET SPONSOR, is on the northeastern tip of Estero Island. Our thanks to Lisa Keith-Lucas for this report.
We cruised offshore from Tampa, arriving at 1am 2/15/16 in San Carlos Bay to anchor for the rest of the night. While sounding our way in,we encountered shallower water than the chart indicated on the side of the entrance opposite the channel to the marina at Ft. Myers Beach. Although the depths were not problematic (except having the depth sounder give an alarm when we thought we were in 10 feet of water) it might indicate that the bar that forms the opening to the bay may be longer than the charts allow. We stayed closer to the channel when departing and avoided the shallow water. We were well clear of the 6 ft “knoll” that appears on the chart at the tip of the bar. Lisa Keith-Lucas
Charts are basically useless in this rapidly shifting channel, and should not be relied upon other than as a rough guide, unless you’ve been updating with the published LNM. I went through there yesterday, with no depth problems – and so does the local casino boat, and a host of shrimpers. Buoys mark the channel, with good water, although it does bring you close to the beach.
Cap’n Parky expresses his unhappiness that many cruisers are feeling, not only in Southwest Florida, but all along our Southeast coasts as marinas and other coastal retailers boost their prices to reflect the improving economy and the rising costs of maintenance. However, Cap’n Parky tempers his remarks by stating one of the primary reason that so many choose to live south of Orlando.
Well for the first time in nine years of cruising I finally made it to South West Florida, very quickly realizing two unpleasant facts:
1) The cost of staying at marinas is roughly twice (and sometimes thrice) what it is on the East Coast ICW. They have all kinds of hidden charges – liveaboard fees, up front deposits said to be “returnable”, high electricity charges, extra cost for “amenities”, insurance and the like. 2) No matter where you go you are likely to run aground, sometimes even inside the marina! So having SeaTow or BoatsUS insurance is a must. Cruising therefore is much more stressful than say in Chesapeake Bay.
But of course it is true that winter temperatures are much higher than anywhere north of Orlando. Cap’n Parky
Another cruisers speaks:
We’ve been cruising to Mangrove Marina for many years; the rates WERE reasonable, dockmates were (and still are) very friendly, and the location is excellent. NOW, we find rates have gone up after we made reservations, electric is no longer included in the dock rate (they now charge $85/month for 30 amp electric), a swimming pool is only partly completed and is best for mosquito farmers, the “food truck” hasn’t been opened at all since we’ve been here, income seems to be not used at all for maintenance and improvements, parking space has been reduced, and the bathroom/showers haven’t been cleaned in the past few days. Ardelle Pearsall
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Bruce Longman- February 21, 2016 - 11:16 pm
I recently contracted for the install of a swim platform on my 33′ Bertram, along with servicing of several thru hull valves. The selected FMB marine facility, came highly recommended by a fellow cruise club member, but it failed to inform its crew that there was more than one operation to be done on our boat. When confronted with my concerns over the lack of internal communication, the response was “that is the way we operate”. I pulled the job and have since had the service work done “off the beach”.
A word of caution…Spell out in writing exactly what you want to be done, item by item. If you are not knowledgeable of your boat’s mechanicals, hire a pro to put in writing that which you want to be addressed – examined, repaired, or replaced. The minimal cost to have an experienced boat person evaluate your problem is well worth the few dollars for the inspection. And you have recourse after the job is completed.
Been there, paid the $$, and are more aware of being taken.
Cap’n Parky; most of the people in southwest Florida, who live here and own a boat, keep it on a lift in their back yard or keep it on a trailer in their back yard. Most boats here are under 26 ft and are trailerable. There are no restrictions on keeping boats at your house unless you live in a gated community. The lack of restrictions on boats in the backyard makes it so almost everybody has one. There are thousands of miles of backyard canals here and lots of public boat ramps and that is all the locals need.
For the boats that are not trailerable, most of them are docked at their community dock in the gated community where they live. Few of the gated communities rent slips to the public. So the only way a public marina with boat slips can make money is from winter snowbirds because locals don’t need a marina. The marinas don’t have repair services like they do in the Chesapeake because mechanics ride around in a van or tow a cargo trailer and go to boat owners home to work on the boat, just like any other service tech that you call to work on something at your house. When we want fuel we get it from a gas station on the highway or have a truck come to the house. It is a different kind of boating here. The locals don’t support the marinas. Snowbirds support the marinas. And when you stop supporting the public marinas, with your $$$ there won’t be any and you will not have any place to keep your boat when you come here. You are the one who needs them. Local’s don’t use them.
I fear that this is part of a trend. With so many boomers retiring, any and all facilities that cater to retired people are overcrowded. Higher prices and poorer service are natural byproducts of a seller’s market.
This is my 11th year in Boot Key Harbor, Marathon, FL. For the past three years the mooring field fills quicker and the waiting lists get longer than the year before. This year, all the marinas in Marathon are also fully booked.
If this trend continues, mooring balls,and slips, and places to anchor will be available only to those who stay there year-round.
And the complaints of us boaters are small compared to those who must drive cars on Florida highways. The famous Captain Jack, here in BKH is now 94. He says that when he first came to Marathon, 50 years ago, that he could play softball on US-1 and finish the game before a car went past. I’m afraid that there are too many people on this planet.
Royal Palm Marina lines the eastern banks of the Western Florida ICW’s run through Lemon Bay, south of Venice.
The best deal [on the Gulf coast] I have found up to now is a small marina at Englewood – Royal Palm Marina. It’s a very friendly place with all the usual amenities plus a haul out and repair yard, pump out and fuel, a good onsite restaurant and large shrimp bait for fishing at only $4 for ten. You can rent canoes and small fishing boats if you wish. You can make an easy walk to Englewood which offers convenience stores, flea markets, thrift shops and again very friendly locals including four Buddhist monks walking around in yellow robes murmuring “Hare Krishna” as they go. Publix is an $8 taxi ride. There is a very inexpensive bus service to Walmart and Venice four miles north. Cap’n Parky
Call Dockmaster Jim at (941) 475 6882. Any boat with a draft exceeding 5ft 6ins should not attempt to navigate their channel at low tide. I need to emphasize – all other marinas I found between Fort Myers and St Petersburg were much more expensive and obviously preferred you to stay at transient rates costing $2700 a month. Oh well – Florida always rips off their tourists in one way or another.
Explorer Chartbooks, A SALTY SOUTHEAST CRUISERS’ NET PARTNER, has long been the standard navigational supplement for enjoyable, informative, and safe cruising through the beautiful Bahamian waters and island visits.
Bahamas Chatter: “Updates to Exumas Need-to-Know Info” plus 1 more Updates to Exumas Need-to-Know Info Posted: 13 Feb 2016 06:20 AM PST It seems that many phone numbers have changed as businesses (and individuals) discontinue their land lines and go to cell phones, which are not listed in the phone book. Here are some recent changes we have found. Make a note in your Explorer Chartbook Exumas on the appropriate Need-to-Know page.
Black Point: Lorraine’s Cafe–change 3125 to 3095 or 3012. Rockside Laundromat–change 355-3055 to 3113. Rockside now also rents golf carts. Add Darlene’s Food Store (on Kings highway east of government dock in blue building) Staniel Cay: Medical Services–change 355-2010 to 225-2710 or 554-2275. George Town: Pharmacy–change 346-2411 to 346-2144.
Please send us any other changes or corrections in local business phone numbers as it is an ever-changing picture!
Bimini Ferry Service Discontinued Posted: 13 Feb 2016 06:03 AM PST The Superfast Ferry, that has been running from Miami to Resorts World on north Bimini since 2013, is no longer in operation. After huge expense to build a 1,000 foot pier in the ocean, with great damage to the environment, the ferry service has shut down. Cape Air is filling the gap with five flights daily to Bimini. Another overly ambitious development plan gone awry!
Everyone enjoys sunset pictures, but this is not what it appears to be – it’s actually a sunrise photo, taken, from the bow of our boat this past July at South Seas Island Resort, Captiva Island, on the west cost of Florida. The photo was deliberately underexposed to help saturate the colors.
Salty Southeast Cruisers’ Net joins all of you in congratulating BoatUS on their 50th Anniversary. BoatUS remains the premiere advocate for boaters and boating safety on all waters and SSECN is proud to have BoatUS as a SPONSOR!
As BoatUS celebrates its 50th Anniversary, the story of those 50 years is worthwhile reading, especially for those of you who have been members since the beginning in 1966.
Here is an opportunity for boaters to learn more about the plans that our state government agencies are considering for our coastal waters. Even without the training session, the website can be very useful.
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Training for the Georgia Coastal and Marine Planner February 17, 2016
As use of our ocean’s resources increase so do potential conflicts between user groups. The Georgia Department of Natural Resources, Coastal Resources Division (CRD) facilitates state management of coastal and ocean resources through improved planning and coordination.
CRD is partnering with the Georgia Tech Center for Geographic Information Systems and Strategic Energy Institute to launch a new planning tool called the Georgia Coastal and Marine Planner (GCAMP), which provides key information to coastal and ocean use stakeholders. GCAMP is a web-based map viewer that provides Georgia-specific data and information for planning and decision making. The resource assessment and planning tool provides easy access to geospatial information without the requirement of expensive or complicated software. GCAMP was designed to provide biological, physical, and human-use information in the offshore environment to planners, managers, decision makers, and the public.
“GCAMP establishes a transparent and open process for fostering better understanding among stakeholders about what is happening in Georgia’s coastal and ocean environment. It provides factual information about the location of natural resources and the location of human uses. This will help coastal and ocean resource managers avoid conflicts when modifying existing human uses and planning future activities,” said Jill Andrews, program manager at CRD.
Training on GCAMP will be held from 12:00 pm to 1:00 pm February 17, 2016 at the Susan Shipman Environmental Learning Center located at the DNR Coastal Regional Headquarters, One Conservation Way, Brunswick. The public is invited to attend. There are also tutorials on the viewer’s website Geospatial.gatech.edu/GCAMP
For more information on GCAMP please contact Sonny Emmert or Jill Andrews at 912-264-7218
When will GA decide to become cruiser/boater friendly and keep their portion of the ICW reasonably maintained? Most boaters that have capable boats and crews opt to go offshore to avoid the state. Many others going off shore are at high risk. Even SC has finally decided to increase maintenance.
Came through the Pass in the dark both (in/out) times. 1 and 2 are on station and flashing accordingly. 3 is on station and flashing accordingly. #4 Red could not be found. 5 and 6 were on station and flashing accordingly. We did not have a depth finder and we did not touch bottom. No shoaling was apparent (waves). There is a dredge and/or barges on the North side of the harbor once you get in about a mile.
Explorer Chartbooks, A SALTY SOUTHEAST CRUISERS’ NET PARTNER, has long been the standard navigational supplement for enjoyable, informative, and safe cruising through the beautiful Bahamian waters and island visits.
Bahamas Chatter: “Request for Buddy Boat” plus 1 more Request for Buddy Boat Posted: 11 Feb 2016 03:01 PM PST This request came via our partner the Cruisers’ Net for the Intracoastal Waterway:
A boater is requesting a buddy boat or advice for crossing from Lake Worth/WPB to West End or Memory Rock.
Please respond and he will connect with you here.
Here is contact information for Tam & Craig Westover; Phone 651 – 307 – 8214 or 612 309 – 1492 Email: westover4@gmail.com
Satellite Internet – GMN? Posted: 25 Jan 2016 04:44 AM PST We plan on cruising around Berry Islands, Exumas down to Land & Sea Park and back up to Abacos. I’m particularly concerned about having internet connection in Exumas. I must have at least intermittent access for my US Clients during our 3 mos cruising. Has anyone had any experience with Global Marine Network or can recommend another satellite internet service?
The Cape Coral Cruise Club is a group of dedicated cruisers who always provide unique reports from the marinas they visit. Legacy Harbour Marina, A SALTY SOUTHEAST CRUISERS’ NET SPONSOR, is located on the Caloosahatchee River/Okeechobee Waterway, in the heart of downtown Fort Myers, Florida. Multiple dining and shopping opportunities are found within easy walking distance of this absolutely first-rate marina!
Cape Coral Cruise Club Cruises to Legacy Harbour Marina By John Queen, Commodore, Cape Coral Cruise Club
Legacy Harbour Welcome Sign
Each month, the Cape Coral Cruise Club makes a scheduled cruise to a different marina in SW Florida and stays for several days enjoying the amenities and hospitality of the marina. We do this nine times a year along with an extended cruise each spring. We take a break during the summer months of July and August, as many members return north. This January vessel compasses pointed towards Legacy Harbour Marina in downtown Fort Myers.
Moonlighter arrives at Legacy Harbour.
Club boats headed out on Tuesday, January 26th on what was actually a nice dry day, and boats headed home on Friday, January 29th, also a nice dry day. Everything in between – fergetaboutit! It was rain, rain, and more rain. Did I mention it was wet? The Club plans its monthly cruises months ahead of time and cannot of course control Mother Nature, but did she really have to rain on our parade all that week?
Seven Cape Coral Cruise Club member boats made the journey plus 2 club members live-aboard and reside at Legacy Harbour year round (they didn’t have to go far). On Tuesday night, club members gathered at the Tiki Hut for drinks and a potluck dinner. That’s when the rain began. It didn’t stop until Friday morning.
Wednesday morning, after serving up a breakfast of scrambled eggs, sausage and Bennett’s doughnuts, a tour was planned at the Edison-Ford Estates Museum and Laboratory. Seven club members made the trip only to find that Edison-Ford had closed the estate tours and grounds due to inclement weather. We toured the museum and laboratory, but it was disappointing that that the main estate was not accessible.
Wednesday night, several members brought out their best chili recipes for a chili cook-off contest. The Tiki Hut at Legacy was lined with 7 crock pots, each vying for attention. After scouting the marina to find a person who would serve as our ‘official’ chili judge, as luck would have it, Eric, the Legacy Dock Master volunteered. At the time, we didn’t realize what a true chili aficionado Eric was.
At the stroke of 6:00 PM, Eric showed up with a clipboard and judging sheet divided into 5 or 6 categories of aroma, texture, and consistency…, from which to judge. Before judging, Eric also gave an impromptu verbal lesson on the history of chili. Eric was the perfect judge! After carefully writing notes and quickly sampling each offering, Eric rose from the steam laden crocks and declared victory: Pati Queen was declared the winner followed by 2nd place to Stephanie Carrico, and 3rd place going to Bonnie Martin.
On Thursday morning, we laid out a nice breakfast of scrambled eggs, sausage, dry cereals and juices for everyone. Of course it rained the night before, and the rain continued throughout the day.
Over 40 members enjoy dinner at Pinchers Crab Shack in Ft. Myers.
Thursday evening about 45 club members converged on Pincher’s Restaurant a few blocks west of Legacy Harbour. Since several members came to Pincher’s by car, they helped shuttle boaters stay out of the rain. It’s always nice to have non boating club members join the boaters for the group dinner. Pincher’s was quite hospitable by housing all club members in a private dining area.
On Friday morning the rain finally stopped and the boaters headed out to the Caloosahatchee returning to their home slips scattered around Cape Coral. The Club certainly thanks the staff of Legacy Harbour Marina for their hospitality, as well as Pincher’s Restaurant for accommodating us on this event. We thank Mother Nature for giving us a dry trip back home on Friday.
The Cape Coral Cruise Club is open to new members who own a boat with overnight accommodations and reside in the Cape Coral / Ft. Myers area. For membership information please contact Phil Kryger at 239-541-0236. The Club website is being updated so the short video of recent Club activities and additional Club information may not be accessible. Club website, www.c-c-c-c.org
In this excellent article posted in MarineLink.com, AIWA’s Brad Pickel introduces us to a new term for the Atlantic Intracoastal Waterway: M95.
AIWA Highlights Investment Needs on the Nation’s Marine Highways By Brad Pickel, Executive Director, Atlantic Intracoastal Waterway Association Tuesday, February 09, 2016 Nowhere is that more important than on the Atlantic Intracoastal Waterway. As 2016 begins, we at the Atlantic Intracoastal Waterway Association (AIWA) are looking forward to participating in the ongoing dialogue regarding the need for strategic investments in the Nation’s Marine Transportation System. Our organization advocates for the ongoing maintenance of one of the nation’s longest water infrastructure projects, the Atlantic Intracoastal Waterway (AIWW). Although the waterway has received funding for the past few years, we know that more is needed for this vital transportation route. The AIWW serves a number of commercial, governmental and recreational organizations over its’ collective 1,100 mile length. Whether it’s a small town fishing village or a large-scale corporation, the AIWW provides safe transportation to all users all along the eastern seaboard. Today, we see a number of opportunities and threats facing the AIWW. Similar to many other federal projects, we face a lack of consistent and sustainable federal funding to maintain the waterway at its full capability. The AIWW has received incremental increases over the past few years and we are extremely thankful for the effort that has led to those extra dollars. But, we also see an opportunity to invest in the nation’s most efficient mode of transportation with lower emissions, lower costs, and a good environmental safety record. As the harbor deepening projects come to fruition and Post-Panamax ships steadily arrive, the nation must maximize all of the transportation avenues that are available. Just this past November, we were fortunate to have U.S. D.O.T. Maritime Administrator Paul “Chip” Jaenichen participate in our annual meeting. Administrator Jaenichen painted a very clear picture regarding the expected increase in freight movement in the United States by 2040. With an expected increase of over 45% in freight movement, we were left to wonder if existing infrastructure of the multi-modal system could support the anticipated increases. Our view is that our nation has a greater opportunity to manage these increases by investing in the development and maintenance of a reliable national marine transportation system, and more specifically marine highways such as the AIWW (M-95). Moving forward, federal dollars will continue to be constrained for infrastructure needs, and ongoing maintenance will likely require investments by non-federal partners. On the AIWW, non-federal partners have established dedicated funding sources in Florida and North Carolina to aid in keeping their sections of the waterway open. In 2015, Charleston County, South Carolina provided $500,000 to supplement federal funding for waterway maintenance within the county. We fully believe that it should remain a federal responsibility to maintain the nation’s marine transportation system, but there is a willingness to support limited non-federal funding if work can be scheduled and completed in a timely fashion. In 2016, we are focused on pursuing additional funding for the maintenance of the AIWW, and the completion of Section 2008 of the 2014 Water Resources Reform & Development Act (WRRDA 2014). This section required the Corps to conduct an Assessment of Operations and Maintenance Needs for the AIWW and the Gulf Intracoastal Waterway. Upon completion of this study, everyone will have a roadmap showing the needs of each waterway and the necessary dollars to maintain them. Fortunately, the congressional delegation along the waterway supported this effort and now we hope that it will be included in the upcoming budget proposal. With this information, Congress will see the amount of money needed to maintain the waterway, and non-federal partners will see the amount of funding needed to maintain their section. Through these activities, we will continue to move forward in providing what all of the users of the waterway desire, a well-maintained marine highway 95. Editor’s Note MARAD [Marine Administration] didn’t designate the Atlantic Intracoastal Waterway (AIWW) as the “M-95” marine highway because it sounds nice. Running adjacent and parallel to Interstate Highway 95 for hundreds of miles, the AIWW has the potential to relieve a significant amount of pressure from one of the nation’s busiest and most congested freight and passenger car corridors. But, not if federal funding for maintenance dredging of the AIWW does not keep pace with the needs of the waterway. Beyond this, the practice of awarding dredging and maintenance funding on the basis of existing tonnage alone greatly under calls the huge potential of this waterway as a powerful intermodal marine highway. – JK.
See message above. Portions of the waterway in NC and SC are almost impassable.. Large sections in Florida don’t meet the the 12 feet depth requirement.
Congress has failed to properly maintain the AIW for years. In the case of Florida, Congress agreed in the Act of 1927 to perpetually maintain the waterway and enlarging it in exchange for Florida buying the Florida East Coast Canal and turning it over to the federal government and all necessary r/w free and clear at Florida’s sole expense. Florida bought the waterway for $725,000. Congress has failed to keep up its end of the bargain.
50th Anniversary. BoatUS remains the premiere advocate for boaters and boating safety on all waters and SSECN is proud to have BoatUS as a SPONSOR!
Click Here To Open A Chart View Window, Zoomed To A “Navigation Alert” Position at Boca Grande Pass
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Technically, there are restrictions on the amounts you allowed to bring in. If you are arriving on a 26′ fishing boat and have 14 cases of beer aboard, you have a problem. But if you are arriving on a sizeable boat, we have found that the customs agents aren’t going to delve into your less accessible lockers. If you have an obvious bar, they may look at it, but we have never had a problem clearing at West End — every year since 2002.
Please do not draw attention to this subject that should probably not be made public!